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There is literally nothing to watch there. That's one of the most one sided matchups imaginable.

I swear, our WR drafting history in the last 25 years has to be the least impressive in the NFL.

I don't really give a fug if he looks amazing in practice. Let's see it on the field when it matters. It's moderately interesting because there are no real sports going on but I am taking 100% of our training camp with a bushel of salt.

It all means very little. If it did, Ian Thomas would be getting his gold jacket mailed to him, not Peppers.

Well you gotta take care of the 38 left.

IMO, he is one of the weakest links.

I know the stats but I also watch him play. He's very much a product of the best collection of offensive talent in the NFL.

I walk outside for several hours in this basically every day it isn't raining.

It doesn't really matter where I live. I spend 90+% of my time traveling for work anyway.

He's Alex Smith-ish but he was really just a good NFL QB. Smith was never anywhere near elite, very similar to Purdy. Now, as down on Purdy as I am, he has played like a first or 2nd round pick, so he is much better than everyone thought. He is also far worse than most currently think.

I think you mean "debuild" at this point.

Exactly. I get that you want to churn that part of the roster because it helps you continue to try and develop talent and improve depth. That's understandable. However, you might want to improve your two deep first because it looks ROUGH.

fug winter. Give me 100 all day long over teens and lower with snow. I travel all over the country and I fuging hate being in the snowbelt the entire time I am there.

Yeah. I just don't want to keep seeing us churn up the top of the roster so that it becomes the bottom. I'll believe it when I see it actually start to work.

The "bottom of the roster churn" comment was what Fitterer used to say.

IDK about completely but definitely a large portion of it is in his hands. Not much different than any other team in the modern NFL era. But, sadly, there are a lot of elements of our team that could fail and torpedo us outside Bryce. It's a very, very bad roster overall. In the less likely scenario of us being bad but Bryce playing well, at least we would have hope for the future.

I am okay getting a guy like Purdy at a mid-range contract. Just understand he isn't likely to look like SF Purdy, as we have very few players on our entire offense that would be in the SF two deep.

And that's great but do you want a $55-60 mil Brock Purdy? I sure has hell don't. IMO, he's a slightly above average NFL QB with the best assortment of offensive weapons in the NFL. I get the Shanahan argument too but no one remembers the "almosts" they remember the wins. More to the point, in their losses, Purdy and Shanahan are two of the biggest reasons why they end up not being able to put it all together. If we were in the same spot as they were, I wouldn't be arguing for nuking everything. However, we aren't one of the most iconic franchises in NFL history. The standard there is different.

Shanahan and Purdy will be on the hot seat this season. Don't be surprised if you see both in new spots at the start of the 2025 season.

I am not too worried about his injury nor do I really expect much from him this season. Given the ACL, I am going to grade him on 2025 and later. But, unless he is ripping off multiple Pro Bowl campaigns, I still feel the same way about RB's in the first two rounds of the draft.

Maybe. Or maybe he would have been far better than a guy who has never played center before.

I disagree because for the most part wins in the NFL are very rarely dictated by the RB position. This isn't just my view, it's the view of most NFL franchises in the modern era. Hence why RB by committee and cheaper RB's the most common feature of the average NFL team. Also why you see RB's sliding further and further down draft boards and generally substantially lower RB salaries compared to other offensive skill positions, which is very much different from 20+ years ago. It's too easy to get above average to very good RB play from guys drafted in the 3rd round or lower(this trend is going on a while now). Hence why I say it really doesn't matter how we play, he isn't going to have very much impact on W's and L's(see McCaffery, Christian for the classic modern example of this). We just have philosophical differences on what we think of the position in the modern NFL. As was stated by others in this thread(and across many this offseason) we could have selected a potential long term starter and multiple other positions of substantially higher positional value. Not a very good prospect with likely a very short career that just isn't going to readily impact W's and L's.

Regardless of injury status, taking a RB in the second is a luxury pick. Quality/starting caliber RB's were available in the 3rd/4th rounds. This is classic bad roster management. Ignoring positional value.

I don't think there is any real danger of getting another player on a top 50 list in the foreseeable future. Possibly Johnson but that seems like a pretty big stretch too.

I was a Bryce guy but I don't believe he has NFL elite potential after watching him for a season. He could certainly turn it around but I believe his ceiling is substantially lower than what was advertised. The most Panthers thing to happen is for him to just settle into being mediocre to slightly above average. Then we extend him based on the owner being high on copium/hopium so that the whole thing ends up being dragged out for almost a decade before we move on.