kungfoodude

100% agree. A lineup of TMac, Coker and Renfrow might actually be an above average NFL WR corps for the first time in forever.

I formally apologize to TMJ and Mingo for comparing them to XL this offseason. You guys deserve better than that.

We did a complete roster tear down after 2018. Everyone here was clamoring for it, while I was not. Competent and competitive franchises never do this. They constantly retool. It keeps continuity even across staffs and helps maintain a certain level of culture. That is all now gone from our organization. We have no culture, we have no continuity. It's basically just a bunch of guys drifting through on their way other places or out of the league. This is why you never tear down a roster and especially without any stability or structure in the FO. We doomed ourselves to failure from the first moment of Tepper's era. He tore down everything and rebuilt in "his" image. Look upon it, Panther fans. This is exactly what you asked for and these are the results.

I see a lot of talk about loss of confidence and I believe there is an element of that. But it's the lack of effort on tape that is the real concern. Confidence can perhaps be fixed but just mailing it in is a whole different ball game.

If we win 2+ games in that stretch, I would say we are on schedule to meet expectations. Anything less and I think DC might actually have a shot at getting fired by the end of the year.

Because we suck at QB talent evaluation, especially with respect to the NFL Draft. We have only had one above average starting caliber QB even on the roster since Cam, Baker Mayfield. And that was typical roster dysfunction that led to him being axed. Wilks didn't like Baker so he essentially canned him. Another of many reasons why I will never understand how some fans get so stuck up on Wilks as being this "missed opportunity." He was a bottom shelf NFL HC. He only looked good because we had that retarded nitwit, Matt Rhule as a HC prior to him. Anyway, our QB issues are all self inflicted. We can't evaluate worth a fug and then when we get mildly serviceable(Bridgewater) or potentially starting caliber(Mayfield) options, we fug it up.

Yeah, I don't think it would. Might want to review the tape on the past two preseasons with him. The game I saw there was a massive gulf between him and Kyle Allen. Hence why he got cut.

Yeah, I was on the 4 to 7 bandwagon since probably the draft. If we go 0-5 to start......man

He 100% does not. The NFL team has skyrocketed in value. It has served the purpose it was supposed to serve, regardless of the on field results.

I saw Hooker live in Detroit. He. Stinks.

I suspect we will still end up in the 4 to 7 win range. It's unlikely we do actually go 0-17, although it's certainly possible.

And a franchise noted for talent evaluation and development. Maybe something Tepper could learn a few things from.

I think this is likely a comfortable Atlanta victory. They have a pretty punishing running attack that should give us fits. Obviously, if Bryce turns the ball over early and often, it will be a hole we have to dig out of like last week. I don't think they are going to take their foot off the gas as much as the Cardinals did.

Winston would lose a ton of games here while being more fun to watch and setting records for INT's. A very clear middling backup QB is not the answer. You will never be able to break Jameis of his Favre-esque gunslinging. Many have tried, none have succeeded. As for not fuging up the draft? poo....we are many years into that. I don't expect that will change anytime soon.

And the seat availability will only go up over time.

It's a bit of both. Running game can open up deep passing opportunities but if you can threaten deep, it will keep them from loading up the box. We aren't particularly good at anything currently. That's part of the problem

I mean...that is a crazy easy schedule from start to finish. You are looking at one elite team and as many as three upper tier teams. Other than that, it's middle of the pack or cellar dwellers. I wouldn't start calling shots on us losing out. We have all been here before.

Well, Hooker was a guy that was drafted in the 3rd round pick sitting behind a well established starter yet Detroit somehow saw enough to let him go after two offseasons. Where does that fit into your ideal situation?

You are literally naming almost entirely instances where they are sitting behind a well established if not star player that was already on the team. That's a different scenario entirely. Listen, if you want to make all the mental gymnastics for excuses, have at it. I think the facts are clear, Bryce Young is not an NFL caliber player. Furthermore, no amount of pine time nor change of scenery is likely to change that.

It's easy to conserve energy when you loaf most of a game, don't block, etc.

I mean, the record speaks for itself at this point. He is 6-24 as a starter and his INT% has gone up from 1.9 to 2.3 to 3.3 each year. He is far from completely to blame but 100% of the indicators are that the NFL has largely figured him out.

That really was what took the wind out of the sails of the comeback, how bad he looked on that final drive. He can sometimes catch lightning in a bottle, he did last season for a stretch, but when it goes south he reverts back to not looking like he has ever played above a HS football level.

I wish Bryce the best, as a guy that said he was the best QB in that draft, but I don't really think he will be much better elsewhere. Well, let me clarify, not better enough to ever be a regular NFL starting QB.

I think we are looking at the same stats, I think you just have pro-Bryce goggles on. That seems to be pretty clear by the post history, anyway. Not really sure how or why anyone would still be in that camp, but carry on.

I am not sure really by any reasonable measure how you could believe that or see that when you look at them statistically but agree to disagree. Regardless, one is a good NFL QB and the other is not an NFL QB at all. That much is very clear.