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I don't think there was anything particularly that he did that made him better as a leader than just play very well. He has played very well before. In terms of leading by "example" or "play" than I suppose this was one of his best performances. In terms of playing through injuries or getting banged up....he has also done that before too. It's the play and/or results that were outside the norm, not really any of the other aspects. He's been a leader, he's been a cheerleader(for his teammates), he's come back from in game injuries, etc. He didn't do anything particularly new other than execute well. That's basically all he has ever really been lacking.

I don't really think he nor the DC offense is going to be a consistent 20+ yard targeting offense. We just don't run that kind of offense. In fact, Bryce has never really been in an offense that strayed too far from basic West Coast principles in his NFL career. So, the lack of deep targets can't really be placed completely on his shoulders. It's easy to individually blame him for missing reads deep, which he has over and over. But, I would wager that if you really broke down those "missed reads" in detail that the deep target misses wouldn't stand out statistically. Just a hunch, I have no details on that at all.

Massively so. He had a 136.46 QB Rating in the 10-20 area on Sunday. That has been his least efficient area of passing on the season with a 59.8 QB Rating prior to yesterday. It's been even less efficient than his 20+ yard attempts.

He isn't perfect but I had him as my #1 WR in that class for a reason.

For the record, Bryce attempted only three 20+ passes Sunday. That is moderately better than his 2.22/Game 2025 average and his 2.73/Game career average(not including Sunday). I wouldn't say the "deep ball" was the reason he succeeded yesterday. It accounted for only 65 yds and 1 TD of his 448 yds and 3 TD's. He was just better in almost every aspect. It was the 2nd highest QB rating of his NFL career.

Recap - Baltimore's fake tush push was pure genius. - I hate Denver intensely. The more they win, the more I hate them. - Dillon Gabriel is arguably the NFL's worst QB. - Shadeur Sanders is worse than Dillon Gabriel. - Aaron Glenn is a complete idiot. - Sam Darnold celebrated his return to the NFL. - The people trying to jettison Brock Purdy got pretty quiet. He is actually better than Mac Jones, albeit not by enough to justify that contract difference. - fug Aaron Rodgers. - JJ McCarthy is quickly descending to Dillon Gabriel/Justin Fields depths of QB play. His alter ego "Nine" might be the remaining games he has as Vikings starter at this rate. - Trevor Lawrence still sucks. - Stock way up for Jacoby Brissett on the Panthers Veteran QB We Should Pursue in the 2026 Free Agency. If he can be obtained at a reasonable price, he would be a massive upgrade over Andy Dalton. Mariota and Winston are lesser options but potentially cheaper.

You have to give a lot of credit to the opponent too. They really gave him all the opportunities in the world for a very highly ranked(or formerly) passing defense. On paper, their gameplan should have worked as it largely mirrored what New Orleans did and they have a substantially stronger pass defense than the Saints.

Yeah, hopefully the confidence keeps rising like we saw at the end of last year. Again, as others have said, one thing that can't continue is to piss away half a season before it starts clicking. I really don't care how good he can be in second halves of the season if he just can never get off the ground in the first halves of every season. When you see games like yesterday, it makes you even more frustrated that we can't get this more often. Frankly, it's so rare that it's absurd.

I think anything aside from like 0-3 wins was probably going to allow Dave to go into 2026 as the head coach. Obviously, a lot would depend on what this season looked like but I would imagine at this point he is very safe headed into 2026. Even if(more likely when) the wheels fall off the rest of the way out, I suspect Tepper will want to see another offseason cycle with Dave at the helm. There could obviously be things that happen that change that in the remaining games but I don't think those are likely outcomes anymore.

I would question his toughness pretty considerably after removing himself from a game because he was tired. That's about as baby soft as you can get as an NFL QB. But I do understand your point is that toughness isn't durability. That's more so what I was talking about, was durability.

Echoing the things many others have said, what I wanted to see what an "answer" to the QB question coming into this season and with the 5th year option looming this offseason. That was an insane game by Bryce, literally what we had all hoped to get from him when we traded up to get him. Kudos to him for that performance, it literally was franchise history. But....this has to keep happening. Not franchise history but good games. You can't have 1-3 of these each season. That's not a franchise QB, that's Ryan Fitzpatrick. We have the toughest stretch of our entire season coming up, it's going to basically be put up or shut up time for Bryce. He's probably playing for his Panthers future.

I honestly think this guy lost a bet or something. Either that or is a sock account. His posts are somewhat perplexing.

That's something I have said repeatedly about Young is that he is unquestionably tough. One of the worries coming into the league was that he was so small that he might not be able to take the beating the NFL offers. Truth be told, he has been more durable than his extremely large and physically imposing contemporaries in that 2023 NFL Draft. To date, he has only missed 2 career games due to injury compared to 4 games for CJ Stroud and 17 games for Anthony Richardson.

This is like watching two teams attempting to point shave without the knowledge the other team is too.

He will go off. 152 yds passing.

Since @TheSpecialJuan is delinquent. Time to get these brooms out, boys.

Remember when people wanted us to trade for Deebo?

We wil revisit this later but you will likely see I am correct about this.

All that same bad ball placement seems ro be working a lot better to TMac. The truth is, XL has zero desire to be in the NFL.

I think XL will be out of the NFL inside 3 years.

Yeah, I do think either they change the contract or he gets cut/moved. Murray seems like a good candidate to be moving on. The speculation on Purdy is absurd. Jones is a less athletic Purdy, there is no benefit to making that change. At all. The speculation on Lawrence is absurd too. Yes he is a bust but the cap ramifications are bad enough that I think he will be around for at least another year. They can always pivot by bringing in veteran or rookie QB competition like Indy did with Jones.

I am over him. I certainly hope your faith is rewarded but I have seen enough of these bust Panther WR's that he looks exactly like what I am used to.

People are really not looking at these contracts when they are thinking about these potential moves. Murray is bad enough but Jacksonville would be self nuking to trade Lawrence. Same with the 49ers and Purdy. Some of these guys just cannot be moved at the moment. As upset as those teams may or may not be, they aren't upset enough to have to tear their rosters apart in an attempt to get under the salary cap by cutting/trading a QB on a mega deal.

Yes, XL's 28 ypg has been so productive. So glad we didn't take Ladd McConkey with this level of production.

I am well aware, especially considering how many more targets XL has gotten in that timespan. Hence why I have apologized to TMJ and Mingo so often.