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Yeah, AR is an even bigger bust, the trade helps no one and we had one circus in Bryce, let's avoid the next with Sanders.

Seems like the subjective looks at Bryce we are seeing seem to be much more positive than these statistical analyses seem to be. I would say that even if Sharp didn't watch the game(somewhat seems that he didn't) his larger point is that we are still seeing the same results, regardless of the short term subjective takes. I basically tend to agree. I don't think this a Baker Mayfield scenario where the team/offense is clearly the bulk of the problem. I will say that some of the subjective takes obviously do showcase some of the other flaws with the offense overall(XL, Renfrow, TMac making poor plays or the general better outcomes being possible). But this is also ignoring some of the poor placement or late timing that seems to be more Bryce related than anything else. I am just done with the Bryce experience. He lacks elite skills, so attempting to "gut this out" for another season(or worse, more) seems foolish when you see that his ceiling is so low. Even the supposed best case version(Drew Brees comp) was seeing far superior results in his early Chargers struggles prior to his breakout in year 4(which was really year 3). So if that was going to happen, it should be happening this season.

Yeah, if they think it's Bryce, we will know soon.

Caleb is a gunslinger, always has been. His ceiling is probably Baker Mayfield(upper tier, less TO prone gunslinger). His floor is Jameis.

Caleb has a very strong arm but not 80+ yards long. That was about the best you could draw up for that scenario.

Two plays, basically.

20ish seconds at best.

And in no pads.

It would be more funny to find out she is some football savant and was the driving factor behind the success.

Good Lord. He does. That's concerning.

Robinson was arguably our only effective DL after Wharton went down. It's gonna be a looooong season on that side of the ball

The Saints were fairly efficient versus Arizona in the run game. Instead they opted to throw the ball 46 times with their version of Bryce Young. We will see but I wouldn't get my hopes up because mobile QB's usually nuke our defense.

If he isn't benched by game 3, I think it's safe to say this is Tepper or a straight up tank.

Sounds like a Tepper era Panthers GM to me. I am not seeing a path TO beating Arizona, minus Kyler getting injured. He didn't get knocked out by the Hershey squirts last week and got them piloted to a W.

100% agree. It was great to see the turnaround but this season was supposed to be his ascent to being an above average starting NFL QB, not a mid level game manager. At this point those games looked more like Kyle Allen's "Baby GOAT" run than anything else. He has had enough chances. It's over.

I am beginning to think he is a RAS acolyte, as well. Future GM? Well, when you stink I guess it's a perpetual preseason.

He likes XL for some unknown reason. He will probably go in on Renfrow. I mean, not saying Bryce didn't make some good plays but the crippling ones loom large.

I couldn't believe the Bryce grade. Still don't.

Agreed. It's a large sample size system because it will even out the bunk grades, like these.

Yep. This is why having such a bad owner is pure cancer. It keeps us from improvement.

Also consider that the list of potential replacements at HC and GM are going to be very thin overall. Tepper is going to draw bottom of the barrel or completely unqualified candidates for the most part.

It's just Bryce in this situation. How the fug is Corbett not in the shitter? That grader was high as a kite.

Listen, I am as skeptical of PFF's grades as anyone but I need someone to tell me how this is a "good" game by Bryce. Who graded that? Elon Musk in a k-hole???

I would clean house by the trade deadline and start moving on. What I think will happen: 1. Evero fired before seasons end. 2. DC fired before the end of 2026 3. Morgan fired mid-season 2027. We rarely get the order of operations correct and Tepper has had longer leashes for GM's than HC's.