kungfoodude

I will say, within the first few weeks. If we come out of the first five games with 0-2 wins, that is a huge problem given the projected schedule.

I mean, realistically the difference between most of our 2nd stringers and our PS guys is largely razor thin. Hence why maybe they are paying more attention to that.

No, he had nothing close to that profile even remotely. He was one of the most inaccurate passers I have ever seen as a "top prospect." That literally directly translated. Hurts was a 65+% career passer. Jackson was closer at 57% versus the 54.7% but the difference to the eye was REALLY obvious in the passing game. You can check the record, I wanted absolutely nothing to do with drafting AR. Richardson currently has worse stats than Jamarcus Russell through the equivalent amount of games. Think about that.

Well, you do have to also consider that they are pretty well set on who the starters are. It's the cut line and reserves they are evaluating in game 3. I would guess that is the reason.

I have to assume it is some trolling job. We can't actually be that stupid......right??

AR was one of the most obvious and clear busts I have seen in years as a first round pick. The fact that we had a contingent pounding the table for him in the Huddle is scary. He doesn't have an ounce of NFL QB ability in his body. He is just a guy that is a great athlete that can throw a pretty long ball once in a while. He is literally a CFL caliber player as his maximum ceiling.

You are missing that they literally don't have to trade him. He is under contract and they can franchise tag him for two years if they so desire. Why do you think the sports books have the odds heavily weighted towards being a Bengal? Any of this seem familiar? Maybe.....Tee Higgins? The fact that they are leaking this unreasonable ask is basically telegraphing that they don't really plan to get rid of him unless someone is stupid enough to meet their ask price.

100%. If Sam Howell was such a hot commodity, why is he a 4 year player on his third NFL team?

And trading a top 5-6 at position salary for a 5 year rookie deal.

You are out of your tree if you think any of that is happening. How do backup OL and non-1st rounders help them? I am not understand how so many here think the Bengals are going to make Panthers bad trades when they literally don't have to do anything.

Good Lord, he is a pretty terrible judge of QB if that was true. I am skeptical. Well, his iron was hot for a while and with the weapons he had in Detroit, it wasn't likely to fall off anytime soon. He did the right thing, several offseasons of interviews/interest and chose the right situation. That's where a lot of these guys fail. Thinking they can go to a poorly run franchise or a franchise in a deep hole and then be able to dig out of it.

I think they are just broadcasting "open for business" to see what comes to their doorstep. It's an interesting move. If they had SPECIFIC players in mind, they would have just contacted those teams directly.

I don't think they are in quite the same scenario because they are broadcasting that they are looking to move draft picks. That's wild considering their position but if it leads to long term ruin for them, I will be quite happen to see it. fug the Pats and their shitbird fans.

I think drawing a direct line from seeing coaches/players visibly smiling to being mad at the team is just a symptom of the anger you have at our situation. There is nothing wrong with what you are describing. The issue is that the results are poor and have been for a long time. That's just sort of what it is at the moment and it puts us as the fans on edge. IDGAF what the atmosphere they are creating is, if it's producing results. There are ample ways to skin that cat and different successful coaches have had different approaches.

Surprised they aren't on Hendrickson, although they may only be after younger players.

I think most of the coaches we have had would have mopped the floor with Tepper. Not sure that is a thing. Had you said, didn't challenge his authority....I could agree with that.

Yeah, that was the classic example of the grass not always being greener. I would kill to have the mediocrity with occasional peaks of excellence we experienced under those guys. It's been quite the ride all the way to the bottom of the NFL.

I don't really consider an interim coach to be on the list. Didn't have an offseason to prepare, etc. Hard to judge overall. I do also think Wilks was vastly overrated by our fanbase. He looked so good because he was competent in a sea of absolute poo. I think his peak effectiveness level is defensive positional coach. Nothing wrong with that. Not everyone is suited to be a HC.

That's why this is a 16 page discussion. It's hard to rectify what the Bengals reportedly want, what Hendrickson reportedly wants and what we have/want to offer. The math doesn't add up.

I think we just got spoiled by back to back longer tenured "old school professional" head coaches. We literally had 18 straight years of guys knowing exactly what it takes to be a professional football player and professional organization. Haven't had it since. Closest was Reich but he never stood a chance to even attempt it. Team and staff built by committee.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46008739/eliot-wolf-patriots-willing-trade-top-draft-pick-help-team fug. I wish we had players to unload.

I predict no less than 4 different QB's will make a start for them in 2025.

Yeah, I think if this is a thing, it's a DC thing. Rhule amped up the intensity to a comical, absurd and unprofessional level.

He was very, very, VERY lucky his foot didn't plant in that turf.

I think calling this out in the preseason is ridiculous. DC himself exercises limited effort in the preseason, so it's a reflection of that, if anything. As for the team lacking effort, we aren't gonna know that until the bullets are live. If that rears it's head early in the season or we hear comments from the players/coaches calling it out early in the season, I would say the culture is likely already broken out of the gate. If it crops up after weeks and weeks of losing, I am not terribly worried about it. It's just a reflection of the situation. There is plenty of time for "sky is falling" takes. Pleeenty of time.