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Wanted to riff off of @hepcat post but didn't want to derail it. I'll say upfront I don't have a horse in this race, I think any of the top 4 would fit. Realistically it'll probably be down to Fields or Lance even if we do trade up.
Ever since he beat Clemson and showed that toughness, I've wanted Justin Fields. But right now I'm leaning more towards Trey Lance. Here's why. Early yesterday I started doing my own video research, but from a different angle. Sometimes you can tell a lot about someone by what they project out to the world. How they walk, and especially how they talk.
So instead of highlight reels, I started watching their press conferences and interviews.
Take a look at these Justin Fields press conferences:
Slouching, disinterest, defensive, and trying to answer with the bare minimum of effort. But okay, sure, it was a loss.
After winning the Sugar Bowl:
A little more open, but still looks and talks like he's uncomfortable in the spotlight. No eye contact(even if its a vid conference), Doesn't smile, just stands like a statue. When asked football questions, just going with generic platitudes without going any deeper.
When I see these press conferences, you know who he reminds me of? Cam. Before you say it, this is not me hating on Cam, I appreciated everything he did for us, and that magical 2015 season. But at the end of the day, the teams emotional swings don't just come from the coaches, moreso it comes from player leadership, aka the quarterback. Cam ran very hot and cold with his emotions, and our team echoed that in our play. When he stopped trying in a game, they stopped trying. When he's feeling good, they're playing harder.
Now take a look at a Patrick Mahomes press conference from college:
Right off the bat he comes off as comfortable in his own skin, confident, eye contact, is able to talk in complete sentences and at length about football while pivoting to anecdotes without being prompted. Even keeled that seems like someone you can rely on when things get tough.
What about someone Fitts helped draft:
Even keeled, able to communicate clearly, comfortable in his own skin.
You can look up more, but their attitude and presence is consistent.
Bottom line: they sound and act like pro's before they've even been in the NFL.
Now look at Trey Lance (at the 8:00 mark):
Even keeled, comfortable in his own skin, communicates clearly and able to riff off anecdotes and details without being prompted.
Looks familiar yet? He looks and sounds pro ready. Like the kindof leader that will stay even keeled when the games on the line and things arent going your way. Like someone the team will be able to feed off that energy and be able to fight back without letting the lows get too low, like we used to do.
So for me, I think a year behind Teddy, like Alex Smith and Mahomes, or Matt Flynn and Wilson, and this guy could be something. He seems ready upstairs.
And based on Fields press conferences, I'm not sure he's that guy, or can become that guy. Being a QB is more than just statistics, it's about being a pro, win or lose.
Anyway, just my 2 cents and just thought it was interesting to share.
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3 hours ago, TheBigKat said:
Montana went to the Chiefs
Flacco went to the Broncos
Vick went to the Eagles
Cousins went to the Vikings
Favre went to the Vikings
Palmer went to the Raiders
Cam went to the Pats
Big name QBs have gone to other teams with limited to no success
...and yet the Bucs are going to the Superbowl with Brady, when they had no shot beforehand.
Favre spent a full season with the Falcons before being traded, so I wouldn't count him as being "drafted" by the Packers.
I think if you look at it from a different perspective, say the 2nd (aka big) contract of QB's, then Drew Brees falls right into that category.
Stafford is on or going on his 3rd contract, so he'd be a short-term plan. But Watson is just beginning his 2nd contract term, aka the prime years. Like Brees. Like Favre. Like Warner.
Granted, I just don't think we have the space or capital to give up what they'd want for Watson, so this is all speculation.
But for me, I'd put Watson in the Brees/Favre/Warner category.
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58 minutes ago, Calboyz13 said:
I’ve been seeing a lot of crazy things said about trading McCaffrey and to those people your smoking some heavy gas we trade CMC we have no run game and with no O-Line with have no pass game Anther Cam Newton running for his life.. McCaffrey has done nothing wrong for this team besides being banged up because he’s the work horse of the team look at Julio Jones dude is a beast and has been injured multiple times but you don’t see people throwing dirt all on his name because they know he’s a animal when healthy same with McCaffrey. Then I’ve even seen “we needa trade Burns or Chinn like what”?? I guarantee you the ones that are all in for trading McCaffrey are the ones that wanted us to draft Leonard Fournette and Isaiah Simmons.. If Houston is willing to take both our first’s and Teddy Toilet water then that’s fine but theirs no way i’m trading McCaffrey point blank. And if they don’t like the trade that we give Fields Wilson and Jones are good options as well.
Because at the end of the day, it's all circumstantial. CMC absolutely did nothing wrong, but in this league there's very few QB's you can call elite or 'franchise', and those are the ones that get you a championship. Julio Jones can't carry the Falcons, Ezekiel Elliot can't carry the Cowboys, it just is what it is. It all starts at quarterback.
I would love to keep him and hate to see him ever leave, but if that's the price for a guaranteed franchise quarterback just coming into his prime, it's about bringing a Lombardi to the Carolina's.
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9 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:
So we won't have our assistant GM that Tepper wants, or any of the new scouts before the draft? Why wouldn't we?
Because Black Monday for scouts and personnel is the day after the Draft. Thats the end of the 'season' for them. Right now they're knee deep in their teams scouting so it'd be a hard ask to have one jump to another team while they're so busy getting ready for the draft. Only reason why GM's are the exception is because they set the standard, and they're needed to make decisions and plan for free agency as well.
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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:
Hadn't thought about that.
Morgan and Kuechly in the same front office? That's intriguing.
Right? It's like if the Spiderverse was the Pantherverse!
I hadn't considered it either because I thought Directors and Assistant GM's were kinda along the same level, so it wouldn't be a bump up for him. But if it does, then come on down!
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Will our two (out of 3) greatest middle linebackers join forces in the front office?? I'm all for it!
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59 minutes ago, Calboyz13 said:
He just posted this and has been right on 3 head coaching jobs already is it a possibility that Joe Brady goes to Houston LA or Philly? Darrell Bevell went on 1-4 on the season as a Interim HC
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Looking at the QB class from a different perspective: Character
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That's fair, I should've replaced Character with Leadership. Cam did have very high character for what he did through his charities and helping people. But as far as leadership skills, to me, was only on when he was feeling good, and when it was bad it was worse.
Now, I've never seen Belichick throw a 60 yard pass with edge rushers at his heels. That's not meant to be condescending, but my point is that when Brady was gone, all his scheming didn't amount to as much as they did before. Coaches coach, but players play, and you need that field general to be an extension of the coaches message to keep the troops in line.