R0CKnR0LLA

bruh this defense is as soft as the taco bell dogs poop

This whole game is so embarrassing. Like you just put a bunch of guys out there and told them to blindly run into each other. Refs have been complete garbage too. Is anyone even TRYING to win this game? Cause it sure doesn't look like it.

1 minute ago, BIGH2001 said:

It’s not high on the list of issues but Hekker kinda sucks too.

3rd worst punter in the league last time I checked

Just now, Silent Majority said:

Im listening to a Panthers Pocaster's chat and the conversation currently is how there's a picture of Chris Weinkie at the Carolina Panthers facility, but no pictures of Cam Newton anywhere.  Is this true? 

It's because Cam is still technically a free agent and not retired so they org can't be seen as promoting a FA. This has been explained already either these Podcasters are out of the loop/stupid or just trying to waste time with some clickbaity crap.

2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

This board..."this defense sucks, is trash, can't do shet, etc"  Did you really think was getting turned around this season?  I mean what is the point to crying about it every week.  You know its coming right?

what are we supposed to say "team looks solid, defense is legit" lol no

maybe the refs aren't doing anything intentionally, they're just idiots

Clearly bounced off the ground but the NFL seems intent on getting the Rams into the playoffs so not expecting an overturn.

Crazy to think we could have Stroud, McConkey, Frazier - 3 cornerstone players to build around for the next 10+ years.

Instead we took a midget QB, a stone hands WR, and a RB permanently on IR - and our entire college scouting department still all have their jobs.

Some more fun stats

BY passer rating in 2023 - 73.7

BY passer rating in 2024 - 73.5

BY in 9 starts - 16.6 points per game

Our 37 year old backup QB in 5 starts - 19.4 points per game

lmao

BY in 7 games since returning from being benched - 19.5 points per game

Our washed up 37 year old backup QB in 5 starts - 19.4 points per game

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

3 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Just blind sht posting at this point, should be banned for it

1 hour ago, rayzor said:

It's so crazy that you picked out the only two plays in the game.

Gee. You win.

Everyone calling him a franchise QB conveniently cherry picks only the good plays and ignores all the bad ones as well.

At least I can say he's made good plays, he's made bad plays, he's still inconsistent and is giving you the same production as Dalton did. Doesn't sound like a franchise QB to me but you do you.

Which part of the eye test did you like best, the part where here stared down the receiver the whole way and sailed a gift of a free INT to the safety resulting in a 10-14 point swing. Or the part where he threw the ball into the dirt 5+ yards behind the receiver on 4th down.

Just now, Navy_football said:

I'm not nitpicking. I'm pointing out fallacies in your statement. So take out Diontae and Adam from the Raiders game, and what would his stats look like? Don't get into hypotheticals about someone else replacing those numbers. No other receivers on this team are remotely at their levels, particularly in that game. 

BY has had Thielen for twice as many games as Dalton and kicking Diontae to the curb was a net positive. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make here. Their supporting casts have been as close to identical as you can possible get, if anything I'd give a slight edge to BY in that regard but it's splitting hairs.

1 minute ago, Navy_football said:

He hasn't had the same supporting cast since returning. The #1 target and leading receiver is gone. Coker has missed 2 games and Sanders has missed one (he wasn't quite right yesterday either - may have come back too soon). Heck, Thielen has only been back like 2 games along with Tremble, right? The first couple of games it was only the rookies - Legette, Coker and Sanders. But he did have Ian Thomas. Andy didn't really have him for most of his run. 

Trading away Diontae Johnson has been the only major change, and that's probably a positive if we're being honest as he spent half the time pouting and giving up on routes.

Yeah, BY has only had Thielen for 2 games since returning to the starting lineup. Well Dalton had him for less than 1.

It's largely the same group of guys. Just straight up nit-picking at this point.

Dalton, 5 games starting - 19.4 PPG

Bryce, 6 starts since coming back from being benched - 20.5 PPG

So, he's been marginally better than our backup QB. And that's counting the shameless stat padding garbage-time TD with 3 seconds left, against backups playing prevent D, down 28-7 against the Broncos.

Take that out and Bryce is averaging 19.3 PPG. Worse than Dalton with the same supporting cast.

Yeah it's nice that he doesn't look like the worst QB in NFL history anymore, but seeing people doing backflips like he's arrived as this next great franchise QB is baffling.

1 minute ago, Carolina Cajun said:

Since Tepper has been here, I havent been this optimistic about a draft class.

This says more about how bad things have been under Tepper than any kind of ringing endorsement. I think that's where a lot of the fanbase is at now, slightly better than a complete dumpster fire is cause for celebration.

Yeah, I like Sanders. Coker looks promising. Draft overall still pretty "meh" and underwhelming on the whole. Only looks good when you compare it to the complete disaster that Fitterer was.

12 minutes ago, App Panther said:

That pick was so dumb. A luxury pick for a team with endless holes to fill.

Holes all up and down the roster and you want to use 3 picks to trade up in the 2nd to draft a RB. It's honestly a terrible pick even without him being injured, once you add in that he's coming off a major injury it's monumentally stupid.

The team we were jumping ahead to draft him was the Cowboys and Jerry Jones senile "let me trade a 4th for Mingo" dumbass if that tells you anything.

39 minutes ago, frankw said:

Right. I'm just saying it is baffling that we are still drafting receivers like that and not placing a higher value on route running or hands.

Considering they promoted from within it's really not all that surprising. I believe they made some changes to the pro-scouting department, but college scouting remains unchanged from the Fitterer days AFAIK.

People really want to compare Herbert to BY. Even if you only look at the last 5 games where BY has played noticeably better you still get

8.1 AYA, 101 rating vs 6.3 AYA, 83 rating

Yeah, it's nice that BY is no longer statistically the worst QB in modern NFL history, but can we not go full retard here.

38 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

2022 Lions were the exact same. They didn’t know how to win and were in the middle of building that culture with a young roster. Have some faith, future is bright. 

Lions took several years of drafting really well to get where they are. Our GMs first draft is not looking so hot. First three picks got us a receiver that can't catch, a RB permanently on IR and a LBer that's bad at everything.

Would be a lot easier to get excited for the future if we landed some young cornerstone players we could build around, but just not seeing it. Coker maybe? I don't know.

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Nevermind not worth it

This

Just now, Chief_Chokeaho said:

Bryce Young has arguably the worst supporting cast in the league. Having a top-10 offensive line week-to-week doesn’t absolve that. 

 

Uhhh yeah having a top OLine and a top RB means you don't have the worst supporting cast in the league. Are you okay? Jesus