R0CKnR0LLA

Hey @LinvilleGorge did I just randomly decide to make these comments to him out of thin air, or were they all response's to his own attacks (that you conveniently ignore)

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Since you want this to play out publicly, fine. But you are definitely playing the victim here when you're far from innocent. And no one threatened you with a permanent ban, simply a vacation if you can't stop with the personal attacks. We usually start with 24 hours. Criticize Scott Fitterer and the team all you want. Just don't use personal attacks toward other posters while you're doing it.

These were the two warnings you were given.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not playing victim for anything. I'm calling out your BS, and you don't like that. You want to quote my posts and CONVIENTLY forget all the ones he did. So he posts some insulting condescending comments on his end, and I respond in same. And you mods rush to defend him and threaten me action.

Again, you stick up for this "established poster" with 122k poster even as he makes rude condescending posts left and right, but heaven forbid anyone hits back at him. 

i mean that's the real issue here, he can insult and disrespect anyone he wants in an argument, because he's just an "established poster" and has 122k posts, but don't dare defend yourself against his disrespect and condescension, that's grounds for a perma ban.

Just now, rayzor said:

dude you kept insulting him. you can argue without insulting, you know.

okay fair, but if the way he condescends and disregards any other argument insults people with a a different view should he be banned? i don't see anyone of you mods stepping in to say anything to him for his condescension, do i? that's fair game, but then to post a rebuttal to that you're faced with a perma ban?

Just now, rayzor said:

knock it off. mods got no dog in that "fitt is a good/bad GM" fight.

it's not ok to keep insulting someone you don't agree with, regardless of how much their posting bothers you

i never claimed that mods had a dog in the fitt good/bad fight, only that they want to step in and stick up for the 122K posters, as been shown here more times than I can remember

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

You weren’t a given a warning for disagreeing or thinking Fitt should get fired.

That's exactly what happened CRA in case you weren't smart enough to figure it out. I've made no other statements here other than Fitt is a bad GM and deserves to be fired. I've made no other arguments for the organization, or politics, religion, culture or anything else either implicit or implied.

Butt @LinvilleGorge doesn't want me showing up the long time 122K poster how wrong he is so he has to step in and threaten me with a perma-ban

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think Fitt needs to be shown the door.

@LinvilleGorge bruh just look at this guy insta perma ban like you threatened to me, right?

Just now, CRA said:

I think Fitt needs to be shown the door.

WOAH WOAH DUDE YOU TRYING TO GET BANNED OR WHAT?

@LinvilleGorge right we cant say fitt is a bad GM, everything he does is all good, nothing to see here. dont argue with the 122K poster, am i missing anything?

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

It doesn't matter if you agree with me or not.

And It's not just according to me.

hey you won dude no worries

mods have determined it's only allowed to say Fitt is a good GM and need to be kept, anything else you get banned

so congrats you won, you can spam this board with another 100K posts of fitt is a great gm and nobody can argue otherwise

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

You were just calling names at another poster and mocking him. I’m sure you realize the real reason here…  Don’t play the victim now.

"just calling names" i've pounded this argument with facts, specific moves and examples of Fitts failures while I've been met with vague evasive excuses

there's no reason other than linvillegorge can't handle the situation this organization is in and wants to hear a nicer friendlier fairy tale

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

yup cool!

I've already been issued a warning - with the threat of a permanent ban - I can no longer speak out against Fitterer as GM.

I can only for and now speak to him being a competent GM that we need to retain, which I can't exactly do, so good luck to you all.

I've been informed by CH moderators that I'm not allowed to object to this move as deemed appropriate. Keeping of the Panthers GM is protected speech may institute bans if objected to. I can no longer speak out against the current Panthers FO without risking immediate permeant ban.

Thanks all, peace.

HURRR HURR I CAN SEPERATE COACHING FROM PERSONELL 

Ohh the guy that's traded nearly an entire draft for Mayfield, Darnold and CJ Henderson?

Oh, that guy?? A+++++

Huge contracts to Ian Thomas, Erving and Elflein?

A++++++++

DURPPPP I CAN SEPERATE AND U GUYS JUST BIAS OMG

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Because I have the ability to separate coaching from personnel.

If you can't, well...

This smug sanctimonious garbage. OK what's the grade on personnel idiot?

A++++++?

HELLO MORON WE'VE HAD TWO STRAIGHT OFFSEASONS AMONG THE WORST IN THE NFL

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Unnecessary.  We can debate with this nonsense... 

No it's completely necessary

Don't try to tone police me

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Uh...yeah

HAH HAH

OHHHHH You remember all those years and years, posts after posts where I was defending dumfug Hurney with the same reasoning here????? WELLLLLL ANYYWAAAYYYYYY

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

In your opinion.

That's not exactly something I put a lot of stock in.

"give hurney another chance. he's been crap? huh? just your opnion, not something i put stock in"

literally you 

i mean literally

Fitt literally walked into a situation with a below average roster, and somehow made it worse.

Every single year.

Two years under Fitt, we've given out some of the worst contracts, and made some of the worst trades.

The two years under Fitt, have been among the worst offseasons out of the entire NFL.

UMM HELLOOO??? DO YOU HAVE EYEBALLS?

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think we have areas of it that are good while others need improvement, which is actually pretty standard across the league.

Free agency improved from last year to this year in part because of the addition of Dan Morgan. Fitterer is a draft guy, Morgan a pro personnel guy.

I do feel like the drafts have been decent at the very least, though given we're only two years in it's kind of premature to judge.

But as with other things, I'd like to see how the roster performs when Matt Rhule and his people aren't coaching it.

Or are you going to tell me that who's doing the coaching also makes no difference?

THE ROSTER IS WORSE

WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS

5 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

So his first round picks look solid (like Hurney), but outside of that he hasn't killed it with the draft.  How else would he "improve the roster?"  That sounds like he can sign FAs like Erving and Elf that were signed early to stupid contracts.  Is trading for Sam considered improving the roster?  

Do you really think he have a good roster now?  

Improve the roster?

I offer this simple question to anyone...

Have the Panthers looked better this year, in Rhules 3rd yeard, or in his earlier years?

Well, obviously anyone with eyeballs can see the Panthers have gotten progressively worse during his tenure.

But why? Is Rhule suddenly magically a different coach? Did he suddenly become trash? Umm, no, he's the same guy he always was.

So why are we even worse off now? It's obvious. The roster is worse. But roster can't be worse because of Fitt right (ALL FHULES FAULT FITT WAS JUST BUSY OUT GETTING COFFEE YOU GUYS)

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

If you really think Fitterer compares to Marty Hurney, you've gone waaaaayyy out there.

oh wow, way to be totally vague and non-committal

I'll say this because I'm not afraid to dance around an issue

yeah, they are both bad GMs, Hurney is obviously is worse, but Fitt is not far behind. All you "let's see how hurney does without Fox" and now "lets see how Fitt does without Rhule" half measure white noise posters that can't make a decision, let me know in a couple years 

Spoiler alert, fitt is trash and every year we keep him is a wasted one

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

My point is keeping an old GM who was part of a terrible 3 year run to pick your new coach can have some negative consequences.  What has Fitt done to make him so untouchable in your eyes?

this is such a huge part of the problem. good teams will scrap everything from a garbage regime and start fresh. panther, throughout their history, have been like "ohhh yeah THIS guy is bad, but hey lets keep this other guy" and we drag over garbage from the previous regime, and it just spills over. you've all seen the results

Like we can't even argue that Fitterer is good anymore, just arguing about vague abstracts now.

"oh yeah but what about this one exception of this one guy in this totally different situation WHAT ABOUT THAT HUH"

like LOL you can't even pretend Fitt is a good GM anymore and just arguing still because you can't let it go