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Fraud happens every day in insurance/Medicare/Medicaid billing and so on. I'm sure it's happening right now in the present crisis. I'm sure there are a non-zero number of non-COVID deaths that are classified as COVID deaths either by accident or perhaps intentionally. If you're saying there is a large-scale conspiracy going on where hospitals are intentionally killing people for federal money though you're going to need a shitload more evidence to convince me than an anti-vaccine activist with multiple non-profit corporations registered to her pretending to be a regular every day nurse putting it all on the line to tell the truth on YouTube.

I'm discounting what she says because she seems like a grifter. Ah amateur conspiracy YouTube. Also worth noting that that channel is like 10 days old.

The woman in the video is also an antivaxxer e: that link was broken for some reason She has like five corporations registered to her name http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResults/OfficerRegisteredAgentName/Olszewski, Edward J./Page1

open your eyes sheeple

This has absolutely ripped open major, underlying problems with American society and our system of government. Whether or not anything changes remains to be seen. I will say that the conversation does seem starkly different but that has to translate into action.

Let's say some guy walks out his front door, gets in his car equipped with air bags, crumple zones, seat belts, and other modern safety features, and drives off. He gets fuging creamed in an intersection by somebody running a red light. He survives but is badly shaken up. What he takes from the incident is that all the safety features of his car are a waste of time because he didn't even die or suffer massive injuries. Not only that, he's no longer wearing his seat belt and is going to pull the fuse for his air bags because he's decided he doesn't believe in the concept of accidents and won't be in another one in his entire life. If you're on of those "the lockdowns were pointless because 'only' 100,000 people died" guys, this story is about you.

Wrong, it's a gigantic global conspiracy to make the President look bad. Why just yesterday there was somebody wandering around my neighborhood asking if I had any family members who had died recently so they could code their deaths as COVID. There are much more credible sources of information out there than the LAME (see what I did there) stream media, like this round man with a red face who sells supplements and yells a lot you should check out on YouTube.

Saying that the protests are over something as generalized and non-specific as "authority" is uh something of a mischaracterization

The opportunity for this to be a non-political public health issue was back in January or maybe early February. Obviously it didn't happen that way.

I guess we'll see huh

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It's not going to happen that way because states run their own elections and can make their own rules, and there are several (trigger warning, politics) who are ideologically opposed to letting everybody who is eligible to vote do so. The federal government can't force a state to adopt universal vote by mail any more than it can force them to stop. The only way the entire country would vote that way would be if all 50 states decided to by their own volition.

Oh it's very much topical. If we're going to safely conduct an election in November amidst a pandemic we should consider vote-by-mail. I know I am but that's because anybody can vote absentee in North Carolina and you don't need a reason. I think the chief executive of the United States having a sloppy meltdown over it is germane.

Can we get somebody pretending to be a doctor or some guy yelling in a pickup truck on YouTube to say this please

lol Florida is just outright lying about their numbers and firing people who don't go along with it See guys it's true that you can't trust what the government says, just not in the way you thought ;)

It's just the flu brah

Unless something changed or they struck a deal in the last few hours my understanding is that the Republicans aren't going to let it reach the floor.

Dead as dead can be in the Senate

If anybody has access to YouTube they're streaming the grown ups talking about COVID-19 response

Scientists had been warning about a novel coronavirus emerging from China as far back as 2007. This is new to the layperson but it didn't come out of left field at all. This thread has veered back into this direction again so I might as well say that I think the topic is inherently political, and unless you're talking strictly about the hard scientific aspects of it you can't avoid it. The actors in our federal government who craft our pandemic strategy are either partisans themselves or were appointed by partisans like the President. This is a large scale, high stakes stress test of the style of governance a lot of people in this country want.

Maybe someday there will be a joint research project between Harvard and Johns Hopkins or Stanford or one of the other big schools with a respected epidemiology program that can provide a ballpark figure for the actual number of people who were infected/died. But we'll likely never know for sure.

For the fiftieth time we're barely testing anybody As of 11 AM today the DHHS reports that NC has tested 186,362 people or about 1.8% of the state population: https://www.ncdhhs.gov/divisions/public-health/covid19/covid-19-nc-case-count We don't have an accurate number of infected people. Completely misleading bs argument.

Yeah my brother lives in Oregon. Once you get outside of the cities there are plenty of white supremacist nuts who could go toe-to-toe with any of the most wild-eyed psychos I ever encountered here in NC.

So basically what a bunch of people without a political axe to grind were already saying anyway