Waldo

A Good but not available enough CB, a backup in round 3 where you hope to hit on starter and a good RB exactly where good RBs are found. I can't go better than meh. The rest was that bad. Doing worse than that should get people fired quick. That's what I hope an off year looks like if we ever get a great crew.

11 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

Yes, Evero is clearly on notice. I thought he would be a HC by now, he's lucky the Panthers didn't fire him after this history bad year. Scott did not fix nor help the defense, Im not going to defend that. I still think he could easily be cut and this is much about nothing. I felt your way about brenton bersin and I learn to blame the scouts, coaches, the GM for not bring in better players to keep the Scotts/bersin types off the roster. There's still time for that, it wouldn't take much for a UDFA safety to out-play Scott... Brandt and Dan got to upgrade this roster.

Crews have a long history of leaning on guys they shouldn't but still do. Bersin, that crappy Hback that Ron loved, DG with his Chandler or Ian Thomas through multiple people inexplicably. It's a thing. On a good team Scott wouldn't make the team over an UDFA but we will see. Still don't respect running to that quality given the situation.

37 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

Brother Im no Nick Scott fan or nothing. I feel its near impossible to judge players when the defense by some medics was the worst in NFL history. Have you ever been in a job where every-level had incompetence?? I started a job within the first week- I could not trust the drivers, the dock, or the machinist. I found myself looking after and re-checking other peoples jobs, well guess what- My management job suffered. I told the bosses son, they could not remain in business and as soon as I started I put in my two weeks. 1.5 years later after long time contracts died, they closed shop.

Arob and many others (DL)had to play more snaps than normal. They were playing PS LBs signed form other teams in the late weeks. That's a recipe for disaster, especially for safety group.

Colin Jones was able to play on those Panthers defenses and he was not a NFL DB, but the remaining 10 on the field made it so that 11th guy didn't matter. Half the 2024 defense group was not the right material, it makes everyone look bad. 

 I mean the out comes for Scott are the following- never plays a down on defense or is cut during TC. Limit the harm, lols!!

Or he is one of the reasons we were the worst in the league? It's not the 70s so why not churn the roster in that horrific of a situation? When said player is 29 and absolutely what he is professionally. He played in 10 games and started 4. That is garbage outside of a 90 man roster. 

Jones was a gunner so he was an ace before the changes, not a good one but Ron had many weaknesses. He was also a disaster when they fugged up and had to play him. I didn't really think he was worth it vs a great returner but we also had ST droughts when he was around and took Ron to get fired to jettison that dead weight.

I'm not making excuses for that lot. Most of the guys Evero brought in looked bad. Jewell, Sly, this guy whatever. Brown was one player and a hit when he went down but that shouldn't have exposed how bad the rest were to thay degree.

Even by 90 man standards they could do better.

12 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Normally this website has good history of players injuries, but not much this time 

https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/julian-blackmon/10689

 

 

So I dug up a old stand by, its fillled with timeline news of their history, still good for games missed and overall feel for a player

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/julian-blackmon/6952/news

I actually looked at both of those from  a Google search. Weird that a starters injury history is that hard to find.

49 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Oh, yeah, I agree. But really there's been a lot of dead wood further up the roster that has bothered me more. That bottom of the roster, ST-hopeful guys -- yanno, I'm going to pull for them and hope they get a chance to shine if for just a moment and find a bit of immortality, if not worldwide, at least in the towns they'll call home eventually.

It's the guys with six figures in their yearly salary that do nothing more than keep the bench from flying up in the air or kinda slow down a pass rusher for a play or two to give a tackle a breather that tick me off. I'm not saying names, but we all know those guys.

 

All the dead wood bother me regardless on a team after this many losing seasons. He is 29 and his best days are behind him making great money even as a special teams guy. There is not 1 player in this leuge making poverty wages so I only give a crap about the overpaid and the ones in the way of improvement. The rest just falls into good for them to me.

Dude was a part of a historically bad D and is taking a spot at a position where they desperately need people to step up. I'll give Richardson the 'I hope he improves this year' but I just hope Scott gets beat out by a rookie or another 90 man roster signing. He is just another Ian Thomas IMO and it's a bad sign him and Sly were brought back in more than a 90 man roster capacity.

I was looking for Blackmon's injury history and couldn't find thorough details. Looks like he had shoulder surgery in the offseason. Ankle and knee seem to be what kept him out of games. Says he started 16 games in 24 with 100% snaps on D, 15 games in 23 with 95% D snaps and 14 games in 23 with 75% sanps.

Good player when on the field but it looks like the Colts were not willing to bet on him again this year. Making him play 100% of the snaps while injured last year and then not brining him back is wild. I wonder what he is asking for in pay.

22 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Like Ian Thomas....I just think this way--if your defense sucks in ways they compare it to the worst defense of all time, and this guy had a chance to crack that lineup and could not--and he is 29--what are we doing?

I am going to call it camp fodder so I can sleep.

It's not being mean for the fun of bring mean. Safety is also a giant hole in a D that was as bad as you described. We have 1 safety and I don't think he is very good anyways but that's their jobs to lose and not mine. Seems like a roster spot that needs more chances at hitting on meaningful help that is much needed.

4 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Dang, who knew you felt so strongly about this guy?

I'm tired of watching dead weight and losers. This team hasn't won much in years. The feel good BS is dead to me at this point. Just calling it what it is.

13 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

.  I was watching a Colt podcast and they were discussing whether the Colts should re-sign Blackmon.  One guy called him a good special teamer and the other corrected him.  Missed 14% of his tackles.  Made 6 plays.  They added that he was injured and played hurt and had a better 2023.

It's funny because of the 2 he was the much better rated safety in 2024 even hurt. Is this guy JJ Jensen good or is it a spot you stick a Blackmon into who was almost rated at 70 by pff as a safety? A special teams ace should be really good at what they do to carry a roster spot for a non starter with so little value elsewhere.

29 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

We need ST'ers, too. We weren't great there either. And rather than wash out the entire bottom half of the roster as might be called for, perhaps it's good to hang on to a few who were ST'ers from last year just to keep lingo continuity going.

Here's hoping he was one of the good ones. Best of luck to him.

That's fine just stop calling him a safety tho. He isn't  and should never be on the field for the D. That's why I called him a special teamer. He should never be a safety on the D so just stop calling him one. He also shouldn't get a safety spot on the roster. If he can't make it as a ST aces then he shouldn't make the final roster.

Williams is a run stoper and can't cover a dead body. Blackmon was rated as the 30th safety last year but also had lingering injuries.

This D is starting to feel like the inverse of the 2019 D.

People keep propping up school tape like it's amazing when projecting the play to the NFL. This is what a school freak looks that dominates school players and will be a 100% stud in the NFL.

It's cool that these guys played well in school but show me 1 guy in this draft who is this talented? That is what dominance looks like. We got a shot at some solid football players but damn the hype for these guys needs to go to the level it really is and not where some of yall want it to be.

Classic example of an easier spot they should have tried to improve with someone else. Pure ST player and should never see the field on D. Dude isn't a safety but a special teamer so he shouldn't even count as a safety. Might as well call him a kicker, it would be closer to his actual duties.

Jewell had a 56.5 PFF grade in 2024 which was just higher than Wallace who had a 56 as a rookie. Jewell is a backup level player and should be the depth.

The big safety sounds more like TD to me. Emman something? Also a SC player, not that that should matter at all.

11 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I suppose my point was, and i get that a starter in 2024 might be a decent backup, but we know what they can do--nobody else is picking them up. Bring in some young, cheaper talent--and they still might.  This is the draft to add depth behind Brown and Brown, assuming Robinson is to be depth behind Wharton.

Sometimes what you know is enough and just move on.

It's not really surprising though. Over the years the people in charge gave plenty of chances to guys who where obviously not it. Those guys aren't even good backups lol so there should have been a roster churn. If they still don't add DL depth regardless of the current roster then it's a good sign this crew isn't it. Some of these guys should get beaten out by a rookie sooner than later if not immediately.

Another guy who shouldn't be back. Hopefully he can't make the final roster.

21 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am fine with him doing his marketing thing and I get other NFL fans saying they love listening to him talk and goof off on social media, so it is working.

My question is, are you working as hard on your game as you are on your "brand?" I want to see evidence of that in 2025. Because if that isn't the case.....go be a social media star and let that be your career path if that is your true passion.

He needs the kind of season Ickey had in 24 vs 23. Recognition and improvement.

14 hours ago, Loyalty4Life said:

People need to get out of here with that Marty Hurney 1st round draft pick success crap.  It was only by sheer and utter complete luck he didn't trade Cam Newton for Jimmy Clausen.

 

 

His picks tended to fail but he also picked what people around him wanted and those did well. Hurney solo was a disaster.

Tet isn't Evens. He isn't as big, quick or uses his body size as well as Evans.

The route stuff can be learned. The Evans comp looks inaccurate but he isn't a bad player. Would be a whomp whomp for us in the top 10 after last year IMO but he is better than XL and has more upside. Huge meh for me.

33 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Sounds like we need to trade up, amirite?

It's like last year's first 2 picks in one. Can we get a 5th and 6th year option with that trade?

Slow and unhealthy? Yay

15 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Agreed. 

Remember when Calvin Johnson wasn't going to run the 40 at the combine, changed his mind, borrowed some shoes and ran a 4.35?

Now that is how you show people.

Yup. Nothing but respect on that one.

Brandt had him significantly slower. If he wanted to shut up people then do it at the combine and not your school who will use this process to lure other players.

Meh. I like him better than the TE people are hung up on. I'm just tired of the BS and this is all more of it. Quit hiding yourself in pro days if you don't want the skepticism to stick around.

Evero shouldn't even still be here. He ran a historically bad D last year. This year they spent big in free agency and will do the same in the draft for a DC that has good odds of not being around next year. If that does happen then the next DC will have to run the same scheme or just blow it up and do it their way which makes all these people questionable longterm anyways. I hate how this team is run.

I don't feel confident in anyone they like anymore. They have not been doing good in the draft in this era.

Also not a great sign they are still leaking info. It's embarrassing and mirrors the lack of success. Any other team and this would be a smokescreen. For us it's likely a lock unless someone else take him first.