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HAHAHA wow some great takes in here. Love to see the bump, it's well earned. This was one of the most painful and obnoxious offseason ever. All star staff, Bryce is special in a good way and playoffs in 23 just lolz that none of that was close to being true. 

I predict Tepper fugs up this hiring cycle yet again and the team wins less than 5 games next year. Fans walk from PSLs after next year after the chunk that are walking early this year further embarrassing Tepper. Tepper has more outburst in his constant failures and embarrassments so that will be fun. Eventually Tepper finds another toy he has success with and spends less time as a hands-on NFL owner giving the team the ability to succeed without him in the room or building in a decade or so. 

5 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Tepper is going to sell the lack of interest as the process being 'methodical.'  Probablay some BS about 'taking his time and leaving no stone unturned' when in reality he's just getting little interest.  Candidates are simply parlaying Tepper's interviews as leverage for the jobs/money they really want.

A HC and GM, both good candidates, have already been hired. He will end up with a bottom of the barrel guy while he is used for leverage and interviewing experience. The spin on this hiring cycle is going to be even funnier than the all-star squad from last offseason.

9 minutes ago, hepcat said:

They royally f*cked up trading up to pick Bryce. It was a huge gamble and they lost in every way possible. They aren’t going to be able to sell Bryce as a positive. His tape is garbage. 

They should be open to finding his replacement ASAP with any candidate and that might help attract a better candidate. 

It's going to look like Wilks' year in Arizona but worse. Rosen wasn't sitting on the team yet and Tepper is going to have to throw the bank at even a crappy hire. The worst part is if Tepper keeps the crappy hire in 2025 and pisses away the chance at another good to great QB then...

It's going to be such dud hires again. There are zero signs Tepper is going hands off enough to succeed. He already broke the S2 and next up is Sportsorgy or whatever.

Not forcing your staff and players as more than maybies would be a huge step forward but that doesn't look on the table. It all feels backwards and not even a new approach for a failing team. There are so few positives it's really amazing the implosion Tepper has achieved.

21 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Its extremely difficult for them to upgrade. Tua is an average to slightly above average NFL QB.  To upgrade him means getting a elite QB and those are exceedingly rare.  If they get rid of Tua and try to draft someone, there is a high probability they will get someone worse.  

They identify talent well. That may be true on our team but Raid did it in KC. Losing Tua would be like them losing Smith at the time. Always a chance they could get worse but finding another QB who is good enough to slip into the playoffs is a Baker away on a well run team.

Depends on the coach. All of them have positives and negatives. McDaniels' negative is his immaturity. I don't know how that plays out long term because it can improve even with his base personality.

I'll take a caoch that can adapt and change over time because when they stop trying it's a sign that their time is up. McDaniels might need a Reid type move next to help him take that step so Miami might not be getting the best of him.

7 minutes ago, Steelo said:

Just because the Huddle thinks they are bad doesn't mean the league thinks they are bad. WE have something other teams in worse situations on defense and ST want.  Not everything boils down to Tepper Bad.  Some moves actually make sense, if the new HC has a plan then neither of them are gonna hurt for a job next season.

2 wins. Can the guys here do better? Absolutely. Dropping a new HC in like they dropped in Bryce and expecting the best outcome is going to be hilarious because it's a terrible idea. These moves don't make sense because keeping anyone after the stuff, all of it, that went down this season is a bad idea. It was a poorly built staff that already turned on itself and then failed doing it their way. It's like expecting better talent acquisition when Tepper gets his analytical GM to match with this dropped in HC. Change is healthy in these situations and not burning bridges would be a huge positive, for players and staff.

15 minutes ago, Smitty will punch you said:

Wait so you just gonna ignore them missing 25 sacks with Jalen and chubs. Missing one of the best safety in game, and missing one of the highest paid CB with Howard. 
 

this all on tua huh? lol

They can score 70 in the regular season but only 7 in the playoffs. Too bad all those D guys weren't there to catch some TDs huh lol

System QBs that can't carry poo. Will look OK in a perfect situation but lean to hard on them and they snap. Don't care about the school, it's all in their evaluations if you don't have blinders on. You can win with them but if you get a chance upgrade and never look back.

1 and done in the playoffs after being regular season warriors against bad and mediocre teams. Tua is their weakest link and they need to upgrade QB and find some toughness if they want to be a contender and not a pretty pretender.

Most of the backups were better too so that's more fun.

And if a team is going to hope a QB can carry the entire offense they might want to actually draft someone with physical talent that can see the field. Real NFL rocket science stuff right there. 

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

He bowed out when he realised the GM was just going to be Rhule's bag boy.

And yet he took the DC job. That was part of the point I was trying to make why it's looking like the better landing spot than the Panthers. They get Petters and we will get another Fritters or worse, the analytical genius that Tepper thinks will save him by cracking the code where football is just an equation. 

54 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

He’s keeping them here because they are good coordinators but if the new coach wants to dismiss them so be it but I’m gonna hold onto them in case they want them. It’s a sign that the head coach and offense were the problem.

They already blocked 2 interviews on a maybe? It's obvious he is hoping to keep them here. Everything was a problem, some more than others. Some of those guys also went behind the last HC's back. Tepper still thinks he built an allstar staff but in the end they were all a 2 win staff. 

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What does it say for the organization he's running that the team that just went 2-15 has two coaches on it's staff that are being considered as head coach candidates elsewhere? I mean, that's absolutely unheard of.

Both request were lateral moves so not as HCs that were blocked. Evero and Tabor are getting HC interviews too? LOL. IDK but I would love to see it if Tepper's master plan is to just drop a HC in along with a RB and QB coaches with last year's people. 

26 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Why would anyone choose the redskins (or any other situation) over here?

Aside from money (which we've learned doesn't help much) what reason is there?

 

Adam Petters bowed out of our GM race when they hired Fritters. Many thought he wouldn't leave the 49ers. Having a quality GM that won't walk into a bad position up front along with all that is listed above makes it a better spot. DC was able to snag a highly regarded GM already while Tepper is asking if he can ask to interview HCs with no GM yet...

Who knows what else is part of the bag right now the Panthers are asking of people. Sure looks like Tepper is trying to push off a large part of last year's wonder crew on the new people. That alone seems like a tough sell for people with options. 

25 minutes ago, Panther0221 said:

What do you want Tepper to do? They invited him to interview and Tepper has already shown (Matt Rhule) he is not afraid to open the checkbook to get the candidate he wants.

Unless were competing with the Broncos, a HC would have to walk away from the highest big for us to not get a HC... 

 

They put the GM on the backburner and Petters would in fact leave SF. Tepper kept Fritters too long and could have hired a good GM to lure a good HC. He is trying to keep the peices he thinks is good and it should all have been wiped the day after.

His only positive is his open checkbook and the rest are negatives. He is making a mess again while the first time guys in DC are killing it. This is his third attempt and it's already questionable.

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Would it shock anyone if we hired Belichick and he just up and quit before the season? I could see him taking the podium and saying something to the effect of...

"Look, I wanted another project before I called it quits. I wanted to help one of the worst franchises in the league right themselves. I always respected the Panthers. I won my first Super Bowl against them. When Ron Rivera was here with Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly they competed against us as well as any team in the league. But David Tepper is a fuging moron who refuses to be helped. I have six rings already. I don't need this. I apologize to Panthers fans but this isn't what I signed up for. This was not our agreement, so I'm resigning effective immediately."

He already quit the Jets during his introductory press conference because he thought the team had pulled the rug out from under him in 2000. The difference is here he could easily just tell Tepper he is an idiot, that he is going to do what ever he wants to do and just get fired for it while taking the cash. He is absolutely better at that game than Tepper too. BB would throw him out of the room and Tepper would throw his proverbial drink while BB walks with a 7 year contract and a fat retirement package.

6 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

I think that’s Bill goal honestly.  He’s about to turn 72 and barely have anything left in the tank.  He’s looking for one last big payday and guess who can and likely will deliver?

Also, it’s a chance for Tepper to at least try to sell some tickets and save face.

Logically that makes sense. Unfortunately he is stubborn and might actually want to just keep doing what he loves...at least until he works under Tepper for an offseason. That looks to make anyone not overpromoted or much younger to want to retire. 

1 minute ago, Lame Duck said:

Yep, that’s why I posted that.  I think Ben Johnson is as good as gone.  I still think Tepper will hire Bill Belichick because… well… Tepper is a moron.  

He looks like he is about to build a Frankenstein of stupidity that will look a lot like last year's well built machine...I don't think Bill comes here unless he wants to retire with one last huge payday.

It's incredible to watch them go do what is impossible for Tepper. Lucky fans to get ownership that does that well that quick but they did have a long time under Snyder. They are building their house the right way and it still looks like Tepper is about to do his thing again with the same crappy outcome. 

1 minute ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

This is how I view Tepper.  He may be a big fan of the game but should not have any say in which players are retained, let loose, picked up in free agency and most importantly who is drafted.

Stop looking at what someone did in college and expect the exact performance in the NFL. You can offer your input but in the end let the Pros make the decision. 

Any owner should be presented with the big things to sign off on but his involvement at the other levels has been devastating to the outcome of everything to do with the team.

He has no idea about the football stuff and it doesn't look like he is learning much either so he keeps hiring bad football people and putting them in bad spots and expecting anything good to happen. It's comical and sad.

14 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Honestly, his 5th year salary is pretty low BECAUSE he hasn't played much.

May as well pick it up. We aren’t gonna get a better corner for that price tag.

He played 6 games this year. I don't get the disconect about what he could have been and what he has been. I would rather use that cap space and roster spot on a guy who will be available to play.