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Hilarious cope in Pantherland. Bryce gets beat down by a Bucs team with terrible pass defense that couldn't even win 1 game in the wild card round and then bearly wins agaisnt the Falcons in a lame divisional game which somehow solidifies Young as the future. What a sad circlejerk Panther's fandom has evolved into.

It's all so embarrassing but at least it's entertaining.

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Ehhh the Purdy comparison isn't great... Bryce is more athletic, and Purdy is substantially more accurate than Bryce Young. Young has the second highest percentage of bad throws (23.1%) and 6th lowest percent of on target throws (71.7%). 

Purdy is 12th lowest in bad throws (14.1%), and 23rd for on target throws (78.4%).  He's between Herbert, Goff, and Carr in bad throw %.

Young and Purdy have both had receivers with a decent number of drops (4.6% and 4.3%) this year too.

They are both limited physically and can perform when carried by the talent around them but won't be carrying much on their own as a QB. 

They are more similar than different. Their supporting casts are different for sure. Brock has a better arm & size and Bryce is a better runner, pretty much a wash IMO because neither are good enough to really make a difference in that comparison. 

8 hours ago, BrisbanePanther said:

Side question...is Tepper on an island with that? I'd say no. In fact I'd say all major corporate types in the US are the same because they know the FOMO game that cities play. Remember the stupid contest amongst cities and states to get Amazon's HQ2? They probably spent billions to win the right to give Amazon billions for something that likely has dubious economic returns due to how long the development will be drawn out.

It literally says it pulled away from the pack so yeah it was a stand out compared to the usual level. Same as in SC. Plenty of corporate welfare in America but Tepper has shown his has those issue when he is involved.

I have no idea how it looks from the outside but businesses like Walmart and Amazon all do it a little different. The NFL does stadiums and taxes but even their deals are unique from each other. Tepper is now known for bad public deals at this point with the last one not as bad as SC but it certainly wasn't good.

Is high cost, lack of transparency, poor returns and questionable economic justifications the Tepper Sports & Entertainment's mission statement core?

1 hour ago, CRA said:

I'd like to see him travel before I paid him.  He takes way too many snaps on meh WRs. In all honesty, the only game I can really recall him really on top notch WR most of a game (that also had good QB play)....Horn was really not that good.  Mahomes/Hopkins had him looking bad. 

That's part of why I said I would like to see him with a better DC. I haven't been impressed with Evero or his scheme since he came here. 

Play him next year to prove he can stay healthy before an extension. Either he is worth franchise money or he isn't, if he can stay healthy 1 more year than this year wasn't the fluke from a health perspective.  

I'd also love to see him with a better DC. Curious what a Saleh could do with him.

He is worth the 5th year option regardless. He is a good run blocker and an ok pass protector. Depending on what he is looking for in a contact should determine if they keep or trade him. Once they pick up the 5th year option the conversations should begin about a new contract and it's on the front office to come up with a gameplan once they see the other side's demands. 

The oline has a lot of money tied up in it but it also still has needs. Moton isn't getting younger or cheaper and OC is a position that should be upgraded with a rookie ASAP. 

Should be a latter pick and they need to be healthy. Brooks isn't anything until he can prove he is which won't be soon, he should be basically non-existent as far as planning goes. 

If it's an early pick then these people should get fired. 

This build isn't going anywhere anyways. If they can't bring in talent without overpaying then it won't change.

Neither are very good overall so it's not that surprising DC likes him. Both have poor taste in players this year and both underwhelmed in their coaching duties. 

There really is nothing impressive about this team from top to bottom. None of those people have excuses large enough to hide behind, Evero and Morgan have been here 2 years doing poorly. Canales is such a wet noodle of a hire. All pompoms and no sack. Backing a 2nd year DC that leads the 32/32 D is not surprising at this point. 

Who wouldn't I take over Bryce at this point if you are talking just based on upside? 

People keep waiting on the hope that Bryce will turn into a franchise QB but the QBs with bright futures, not all of it but the ones that should have a bright career even with NFL sized hurtles, don't take 3 years to show something truly great. Stroud did it last year and Daniels is doing it this year as rookies. Young's best requires the other team to be having a terrible day and it's still meh that seems to amaze some desperate Panther fans. 

Same with the HC and GM. Meh. Morgan would have been a cool success story but that doesn't look that much different than the last guy. 

Vastly overrated and when he was given choices of players he chose poorly. Meh D coordinator. Could take over a great D and do OK but I don't belive he could build a top D.

Updating this site to needing to protect fragile opinions that keep the site going somehow. Peak huddle in the dark ages of Panther football.

The only culture they have built is to further cement the losing culture they already had. Bryce is perfect to keep that legacy going. It's actually a perfect marriage.

Bryce isn't it but neither will the next mistake be it. Same with coaching and team management. The entire package is trash, not just the bad QB with so little upside. Love replaced DC after all that fluff and it looks like an easy upgrade for them. One game left and they still have 80 more points than last year on O. The oline improved but there is still so little talent they brought in elsewhere. A freaking UDFA was their best rookie where meh is an achievement apparently.

Another terrible year knowing next year will also be terrible. That's all Tepper has given this team. The knowledge it's not going to be getting better.

That's ruin. He is a bottom of the barrel owner who owns and runs a bottom dweller team. Just change the mascot to a toilet with a giant turd clogging it and make '2 states who don't want to claim this team' as the logo.

Young has his best game and it still required the other team shooting themselves in the foot to barely get a win. Some of you must love to be disappointed. The only thing Young has done is raise his value when they inevitably trade him because, checks stats, he is still a loser in the NFL.

Sure if you want to stay a bottom dweller. Beating a team that's also dead in the water isn't an accomplishment, it's flipping a coin and seeing which turd wins.

Yall act like broadcasters don't go over viewing data constantly. They are not showing it because enough people are not tuning in. Put a better product together or it will keep happening or get worse. 

8 minutes ago, NAS said:

He showed growth and progression for 5 straight games prior to last week.  I think next few games will  be telling, but I'm not sure what his ceiling may be.   All I'm saying is he did some really good things, showed that he can play against the blitz, carry the team on game tying or potential game winning drives... the jury is still out.  I wish he would have had Tank Dell, Nico Collins, Hunter Henry, Malik Nabers and other young receivers to be fairly evaluated.  

I was out on Bryce after week 2 because he looked like he was ruined, no confidence, scared of the pressure, not keeping his eyes downfield.  Even in the loss last week he didn't seem to revert back to that mindset despite the turnovers.  I think he needs at least one more weapon in addition to Coker hopefully being the next Puka Nacua.  

I was out on him before we ever picked him and I'm still right. He should be traded in the offseason and his 'improvement' as remedial as it is should help with that is the positive. He isn't it and the growth is going nowhere. He doesn't have it and there isn't a team in the league that's talented enough to make him look good.

Just because he isn't racing Russel for biggest bust ever doesn't change the fact of how bad he is and what his limited game he can play does to the offense. 2 years the opponents have played down to the Panthers and for 2 years that is a reason for false hope. And then games happen like on Sunday when a opponent shows up hurt and angry and shows the reality of the situation. It's a dead end.

Put Young on any team and tell me you would fear playing that team. LOL. He isn't good and he isn't going to ever be good. He just doesn't have it at this level. He peaked in school and it was always obvious. That list is just more proof they have made massive talent and roster evaluation errors while forcing it where they hardly make an impact on other teams. Go a head an add Young to that list when he leaves here, he should keep to that curve. If that wasn't the Panther's current situation then they would be airing the game tomorrow. This is not a secret anymore and anyone still talking growth or next year is just clowning themselves. 

19 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Order was 4,3,2,1 so Lance was 4 and watson was #1

That makes a lot more sense

6 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Bryce was a huge goof, but we're basically done paying for it after this upcoming offseason cycle.  The big contracts really hurt.

That's the difference maker. Even the Broncos dumped Wilson but the Browns are stuck and the Jets still owe dummy 63 mil after '25 in dead money over 4 years. 

I honestly don't get Lance at #1. He was taken in the covid draft, the trade up was really dumb but they also identified the issue and still traded him away while easily replacing him with a placeholder who still was good enough to get into a SB. That team has stayed a playoff team until this year and they still have double the wins of the Panthers while failing in 2024. Lance should have been #5 and move everything else up one spot. All the other moves crippled those teams from those decisions. Hell Urban had more of a negative impact than the Lance debacle on their teams. 

Watson above Wilson without doubt. The guaranteed money and poo show around Watson makes it no contest IMO.