Waldo

3 to 5 is the sweet spot. Looking at Lance. 

That is crazy. Sounds like Seattle will be going oline heavy if they want to avoid an implosion. 

48 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

McCloughan?

By all accounts, he's an amazing talent scout. Just can't seem to stay clean.

Absolutely, I was just stating that Seattle's talent acquisition took a huge hit when he went to WTF. 

4 minutes ago, bigskypanthersguy said:

Hoping Fitterer is a factor in their decline.

Everything I looked at is their scouting went to trash when WTF hired their best scout. After that their quality was in stagnation. No idea yet how Fritters factors in but I am hoping their HC and GM are in a rut. 

I thought things were great in Seattle. Look at their record, so much winning. If it is such a well run organization what is the problem? (heavy sarcasm)

Looks like maybe that is an organization that has stagnated from their glory days. Without Wilson they fade back into the pack we hang with, they would be stupid to not figure out how to fix their Oline and keep Wilson. The HC and GM need to get their crap back together. 

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Makes me wonder how much fun Dan Snyder is having with Rivera in charge.

Fug Washington for their team and paper. I hope his new Marty gives Snyder a hemorrhoids from his production this offseason. 

29 minutes ago, CRA said:

Still a 15M dead cap hit. 

Signing Teddy was such a bad move in hindsight.   Well, wasn't hindsight to everyone here. 

It was immediately a terrible move. That money was burnt when Teddy signed the deal. 

16 minutes ago, CRA said:

Teddy has a 20 million dead cap hit next year. 

Hurney magic. 

June 1st sir.

2.0 magic baby!

16 minutes ago, CRA said:

my issue is simply the money.  We paid Teddy too much.  I don't want to pay another version of Teddy (that happens to throw it downfield but is just pointless in the grand scheme). 

but I'd rather watch paint dry than watch Teddy play football.  I'm definitely more a fan of the Delhomme/Cam mindset for a QB. 

If we miss on a better option then the money doesn't matter. June 1st Ted and sign another backup with the leftovers. Its a matter of movement. You can't keep a 'winning culture' if you do what already didn't work. Keeping Teddy is equivalent of not trying to win next year, even if the other had bad odds at least it is trying. This pot is going to get stirred.

Meh, we will play musical chairs with another backup QB before bringing back Teddy. He has no future here. It will be fun seeing some of the dead weight on this roster getting dumped this year. KK, Teddy and I bet a few surprise moves. Exciting times. 

Thanks for the dance

If he doesn't like it in Seattle then why does anyone think the Panthers would be an upgrade?

9 minutes ago, trueblade said:

They had a guy on CBS Sports Radio saying that part of the trade is Foles going back to Philly.

Lol, that's the answer. All will be fixed lol, please let that happen so they don't draft a QB.

It's connecting a few dots of his interview rumors. Empty backfield and no OTs? And he kept doing it. Yikes that was a turd he laid. 

17 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

I think holding him to the draft to drive up cost is what's going on.

I'm very afraid we're falling into a trap to get robbed blind 

That would be savy, something Hoston has not shown they are capable of.

New GM and HC are going to avoid it and Easterby will spin it to his advantage. It's all the makings of a train wreck. It might result in some fun friction but I still think Watson will have to sit to prove to that owner he can and will. Maybe the GM talks some sense into the owner but I'm not sure anything reasonable is possible with that much dysfunction.

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

My bad, you are talking about Tua. For some reason I was thinking the Cardinals and Rosen.

Well.....TBD if that pans out. Admittedly, they are in a good position as a team so you can't call it a disaster. 

Missing on a top pick QB after tanking is pretty bad. It's literally the one position keeping them from making some serious noise. If they can turn him around it would be miraculous.

I completely agree about it being less worse than a big guaranteed money contract fail due to escapability but it's still a giant fail.

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, it actually worked out pretty well for Miami in the long run. The pivoted from their mistake quickly. 

That's actually why some of these trades aren't a bad deal depending on what you give up. The pivot can be quick and potentially cheap.

They literally tanked for a QB and wasted it on a guy that looks like he is toast. That's not a win, its excaping a huge mistake easier. 

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I actually was talking to my buddy who is a Bears fan and this deal really makes a lot of sense if you are a Bears fan. On the one hand, you get a potentially elite QB. If that flames out next season, however, you cut ties with him and have no cap hit, you probably get a new GM and head coach(both on the hot seat).

Biggest downside is probably a late first rounder that you jettisoned this season and might have easily been squandered by the current GM. 

Now that makes sense.

Also, just go ahead and get rid of the HC & GM if you have to trade picks away to not have them waste them. Most owners are terrible at this football thing. 

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Well the receiving team also owes him almost no money on that contract. After next season he can be cut with basically zero cap hit. 

That's cool. Still spending a first on a hurt QB is not a good move or a win. Its just pissing away a first on a long shot. Miami should be used as an example of why you don't do this.

Just now, kungfoodude said:

TBD. He is an elite talent. If you whiff though.....OOF.

IMO, Chicago fans should want this. You have to figure it is either a HR deal or you get to finally fire your head coach. 

He was elite and looks ruined. Bad contract and living off of past realities. This is looking like a disaster in the making. It sucks but it looks like the buyer is going to be had in this trade. 

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Breer talked about that in this same column. Said the answer Houston is giving to all requests is still a "hard no". Also pointed out previously that if Caserio gives in, he'll forever be known as the guy that traded away Deshaun Watson.

I just don't see that situation getting resolved before the draft.

Huston is in a corner and no one wants to let the blame fall on them. Dude is going to have to holdout.

How much does Lance cost? Trade up to 3 or 5, sure. I still think Larance and Wilson are gone 1 and 2.

I just want to know how much the refs cost because it's obvious they are completely biased and swing SB games. This crap is getting too close to wrastlin level scripts. 

Teddy is done here. Be it by trade where we give up capital to unload him or as a June 1st cut, he is done in Carolina. Even he has to know it by now.