Waldo

Hell if I know what to expect from this team anymore.

And it not tanking if they are in the top 10 if the team is actually trying to win, it's just failing.

51 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Yup might as well show weekly Confidentials instead of actually showing the games. What's going to be really interesting to see is how many free agents bail instead re-sign here. If that happens and Tepper starts noticing a trend a la Teddy and Perryman I wonder if he'd pull the trigger before next draft

Who wants to stay and who moves on is going to be interesting.

It's still to early for deffinates but it sure feels it's all headed that way.

This just in, the Carolina Panthers remain fugged. 

Next up, why whiskey loves you more than this team and tries to kill you slower. 

Ron

Rhule

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I've honestly lost interest until Rhule and company are gone.

It's all about the trainwreck at this point for me. I'm not taking it seriously but I'm not looking away lol

10 minutes ago, Evil Hurney said:

Assuming they get another win or two then he can point to a top 10 (maybe top 5) defense and an improvement in win total.

That is assuming a lot. I agree with the premise but it discounts that the D is falling apart every week while the O is at least scoring. 

It's all headed in the wrong direction and 'Doubling Down' doesn't sound like the answer. It's not over for sure but it's looking bad, I wouldn't bet on that outcome at this point. 

33 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd prefer Hackett.

I'd be good with Daboll.

I'm expecting Rhule

Yeah, I'm just trying to keep my anger down until we see these last few games. 

I don't know what Rhule has to do to justify a 3rd year, plenty of reasons to not have one. Tepper can't be happy with any of this. We will see. 

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Take Daboll, for example.

He could come here knowing he's got two solid allies in the front office.

The HC makes more sense because you know you are getting 2 years. I wouldn't mind Daboll at all.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Coaches have egos, often massive egos.

Plenty of them go into new jobs figuring "Hey, things may be bad now but WAIT TILL THEY HAVE ME COACHING THEM!"

Ok, that's a possibility but even with the GM search our options were not top shelf and the best one walked away before the end. 

With the lack of meaningful NFL ties, the massive need for NFL experience and the crap position we are finding ourselves in I'm just having a hard time believing this will end up in more than a lame duck year for a staff that can't keep their heads above water in the NFL. I'm also not sure firing Rhule changes some of that, we are not a desirable location in 2022 for a lot of reasons. 

Love the work sir, it just sounds like we need a half court shot from guys that can't make a layup with a flat ball. (Hope that fits because I no nothing about basketball)

Since Darnold is the only QB under contract for next year, the HC is on the hot seat...who TF would take our OC spot?

I can't imagine some of the more competent options flocking to come here in those circumstances. I just seeing it having to be an in-house promotion. 

Same with the Oline coach, who with a brain would come here with what we have and what we can allocate to improving on that unit?

46 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

If Sam starts next year it will get worse. 

We broke him worse than NJ, it would be a complete disaster. I'm not sure how they avoid it at this point. That dead cap is a huge chunk we need elsewhere, like in any playable player or 2 lol

4 minutes ago, BrianS said:

See, I think this is faulty thinking.

The problem with our draft wasn't our draft, it was what followed.

We drafted Jaycee Horn.  He looked great and got hurt.  Should we have drafted Fields or Slater?  Maybe.  But I don't have a problem taking Horn.  Our secondary was awful last year.

We drafted Terrace Marshall.  This wasn't a problem at all.  The problem was we followed that up by re-signing Robby Anderson.  That's the mistake, not the pick.

We drafted Brady Christiansen.  We needed a tackle.  He was there.  On a team with a weak Oline, the problem is we aren't giving him playing time to develop.  That's not a draft problem, it's a coaching problem.

We drafted Tommy Tremble.  This was a great pick.  He's got a chance to be a long term starter for us.

Our first three rounds were fine.

Keith Taylor and Chuba Hubbard have looked ok for us given where we got them.

I don't think our draft was the problem.  It's how we followed the draft that was a problem.

Nope.

These dummies thought 2 injury prone and mediocre olineman fixed their line and waiting till the 25 year old not good enough to start on this line I  the 3rd.

That's awful. That unit was a bigger need than CB, even with out horn and the rest of the traded ones. We had spent on nothing but D players the years before. If we would have drafted 4 olinemen it wouldn't have been an overreaction.

The failure was in evaluation and they went after their guys leaving the team crippled by that poor evaluation.

8 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

The Panthers have been doing that since the 2017 season ended..... 7-9, 5-11, 5-11, 5-7...

We have had years worse than those.

If we lose out and bring Rhule & Sam back there is zero indication it couldn't get worse, especially with cap limitations combined with draft option limitations. 

This team could be winning this year but they made huge mistakes in personnel in the offseason.

Even then a growing staff could sneak a few more wins with this roster but that is clearly not this staff, or at least any thing they have shown to date. As year 2 stands, this crew is still not NFL competent. Not close. It actually appears to be regressing somehow as the year goes on.

Gilmore was a good trade, Henderson trade only looks bad because of the Sam trade, which combined with his wasted 5th year option is disastrous. The draft was mostly wrong and showed they don't understand value or need.

No one has said it but we might have to keep Sam and Rhule due to cap restrictions, making next year a bye week year for me. That is as horrifying to me as allowing this crew to trade away future value again. 

38 minutes ago, bigdog10 said:

This place was screaming for Rivera’s head two weeks into year three. I like to think it was what prompted River Boat to be born that year. 
 

Difference in them and now is that you could see a future with Cam at QB. We are a rudderless ship right now. 
 

If we give Rhule another year and he starts slow, this place will be whipped up into a frenzy (with good reason). 

Rivera strung some wins late in year 2 to earn a year 3. You are dead right about him coming out conservative again and going Riverboat to save his job and earn a year 4.

I haven't seen Rhule do a anything yet to earn a year 3. There is still some games left but it's looking bleak for him at this point, which is an improvement from Sam's last start where it looked like he might not make it to the end of the year.

19 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Give me a Top OC in the league right now as HC and this team can compete. 

With a seasoned DC. Sign me up please. 

Ohh there is a lot more pain than just the roster. It's going to be an interesting 6 months for the team.

Just take everyone with him like he did when he came here. Do they need a GM type person also?

A billion dollar team and we keep employing a pack of fugging idiots. Yay. It's like watching drunk toddlers playing chicken with semi-trucks full of gold. I think if we all knew more about what goes on in real time, we would have walked away years ago. 

I like CMC but his time as a RB is over. Dude has enough skills to transition into another roll possibly. If not, it's just the Panthers wasting more talent.

8 minutes ago, CLG said:

 

I’m aware of how “positionless” Rhule wanted our offensive line to be and how all over the place on the line they’ve been through the season. 
 

It was jokes lol. Still factual that the starting lineup last week should be playing the bench outside of Moton. 

Lol ok, I didn't pick up on it. To be fair, most of them are terrible anywhere so i guess Rhule got what he envisioned lol. Positionless mess

39 minutes ago, CLG said:

By that do you mean 4 out of 5 (Moton) should have been playing spades on the bench? 

We had a OG at LT, our backup LT at RG, Elf at C (who is a LG) and at one point BC at LG who is a LT. That is 4 guys playing out of their positions. I guess Elf played C his rookie year but we signed him as a LG. 

This staff is terrible and has been making terrible personnel decisions.

So where will we play him out of position like we did with 80% of the line last week?