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8 hours ago, Panthers8969 said:

Always funny when guys pick ranges like this to push a narrative. I’d argue the more recent data is more relevant than pre 2016. 

To me the relevance is that there can be droughts. If you see a franchise QB, jump on it. If you see a franchise LT, jump on it. There are still options and sometimes the best option is still garbage. All that is huge. 

Nasty drought there for a few years. We lucked in with Cam. Since 2017 that has changed. Watson and Mahomes in the 1st, yes please and thank you. 

I am so glad we are not a part of any of this. 

24 minutes ago, stbugs said:

It’s not a normal sports fan site. 

Very random and weird but not in fun ways.

Hopefully it is like what we did at GM, look at everything but this time we can low ball with a minimum offer and fill a 90 man roster. I don't want to linger on what happens if we can't get a good QB this offseason. 

22 minutes ago, Stumpy said:

*fixed for accuracy

Sadly that's probably what the Texans are thinking right now, at least the owner and his pet goober. 

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Well again, Brad Holmes probably doesn't see it that way.

Maybe he believes a different situation and a new coaching staff will make the difference.

Also possible that having a quarterback he doesn't have to coach up so much might appeal to Sean McVay.

I get why Holmes would see it that way, you make a great connection on why this could happen, it just doesn't look like a very good path to improving by trading for a worse QB with a worse contract. This just looks like a win for the Rams and the Lions one step back under 'new management'. If I was a Lions fan, I would see this as a huge downgrade. 

So the Lions are all in on getting worse? How fun!

Lol twins

13 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

Mac Jones is basically Will Grier.

Change my mind.

Chris Weinke 2.0. Good WRs and peaked in college. 

So this was the guy who was willing to work with Wentz and got hired...poor bastard. 

His plan I will enjoy watching unfold. 

Nope, not a viable option.

That is crazy. I don't know how well he plays but he passed the test of toughness and buying in. Sucks that the answer should be no. 

I was watching a couple of videos on this guy and he reminds me of Chris Wienke. I don't see a reason for the hype. 

Looks like worst case scenario. Watson is done but someone/s with the team can't back down. What a mess. No one is giving what they asked and it looks like Houston is dumb enough to make him sit. Bell did it, every indication is Watson could. 

The fallout of that in Carolina would create more pressure on getting a great QB asap. It would suck but I can't say it's not a possibility.

It really is amazing what is important and unimportant to each player and team. So hard to predict. 

Hopefully Hurney gets the blame and not Rhule & Tepper. 

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Oh the longer this drags on, the lower the price will get. Largely because teams will take QB positions and then be out of the market. 

If Houston was smart, they'd be blowing up the phone of every QB needy team in the NFL. 

Not only time but it sounds like he already didn't like Houston. With his leverage he can really hit them where it hurts. Crap like this only increases the chances of it getting worse for Houston. 

IF they were smart they would shut up and find the best option and pull the trigger regardless. Him sitting a year is a year where that's all that is talked about in regard to Houston. The gun is to their head and they are acting like it's play time. 

16 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If they don't meet his demands, it is the Texans who stand to lose a lot more than Deshaun Watson. Remember, they just gave him a $30 mil signing bonus.

If they play hardball, all they will achieve is a spot in the dumpster of the NFL for the remainder of time.

And given the fact they have 'expertly' managed their draft picks, their choices to acquire a playable QB while Watson sits is bleak. For a new GM and HC, what fun times. 

Well that's not going to help your QB play this year. LOL. I knew Houston was going to be this dumb. The price keeps dropping is all I hear. 

We are not negotiating against Houston, we are negotiating against any other team he would accept a trade to. If he won't go to the Jets, it doesn't matter what the Jets would offer because of the trade clause. The million dollar question is who are we negotiating against? Maybe the Jets, the Dolphins and who? 

The price should be determined by where he is willing to accept, not what Houston request. If this was a traditional trade, this trade scenario sounds right. The fact Huston has fugged up and made an unreconcilable situation while signing a contract with a player with a trade clause puts all the power in Watson's corner. No idea where he is willing to go. Otherwise, Houston gets nothing and doesn't have enough picks from bad team management to just sit him for a year and move on with a good replacement option while they choke on that contract. 

Pick #8 and a player unless another team steps up and he actually wants to go there. Then we can talk about multiple 1sts. Even if we don't get him, I hope Houston gets robbed lol. They completely deserve it. I hope Watson understands this and really gives it back to them. Maybe he has the money already and really doesn't care. It's going to be fun because even if we lose it won't be like what Houston is set up for. 

Awesome sauce

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think an elite QB on a rookie contract is the single most valuable asset in the NFL. That's why I think Lawrence/#1 overall would command more. You take the risk of him not planning out, but you have the huge potential reward of having an elite QB on the cheap for the next five years. That's HUGE.

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