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5 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

No, it's actually right. I looked it up on PFR.

Since week 8 at Denver last year:
26 TDs passing, 6 TDs rushing (32 total TDs)
11 INTs, 5 lost fumbles (16 total turnovers).

When you factor in the record and the yardage, he's a respectable game manager. Whether he was acquired for that or not is irrelevant 2.5 years later. He is what he is. Dude is not gonna be the franchise QB people thought he'd be, but he's also not one of the worst QBs who ever played an NFL snap like others think. 

As bad as people think he is, you could -- statistically speaking -- do far worse (look at guys who've started here, like PJ Walker, Will Grier, Randy Fasani, Taylor Heinicke, Frank Reich for that matter). That's the scary part.

He only has 26 tds and 16 ints in all of last season and this season in total

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep. You can't afford to pay non-elite QBs elite QB money and there's always about 20 guys in the NFL making elite QB money. That's at least 10 too many. I'll always argue that you're better off needing a QB than you are to be cap handcuffed by an average starter. Truth be told, I think the Niners are learning that in real time right now. Purdy goes down and Mac Jones comes in and they haven't missed a beat. That's because they're honestly about the same tier of player, Purdy just got to enjoy an ideal situation from the word go. If Jones had landed in Purdy's situation he'd probably be Purdy and vice versa. You can't back up the Brinks truck for that.

It's so easy until it's time to pay the QB coming off a rookie deal. I have said the entire time that Purdy wasn't worth paying if not on a big discount. The only guys who sign on a discount have something to prove. Could be a Fields or a Baker. Half the posters here still thing Darnold is the same as Baker lol. So it's no surprise teams fug that up so often when you include the desire to not take a step back even at a cost that's likely going to hurt worse in the future. 

11 minutes ago, Castavar said:

He got WAY too cute yesterday. First of all, you start Dowdle and stop with this rotating BS. Sorry Chuba, RBs are a dime a dozen, so go with the guy that's had a historic 3 game stretch. Neither RB can get in a rhythm when you switch them every other series. 

Playing other bad teams helps a lot but true. Does it really surprise you the coach sticking with Bryce with zero competition in year 3 would go away from the hot hand RB? 

Some RBs need rhythm and others seem ready to go when called. I think it comes back to playcalling and coaching which is just meh here

41 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Exactly. We've invested a ton of cap space in OL, we've signed two proven veteran RBs, we've spent two 1st round picks on WRs, we hired an offensive minded HC. It's not a failure to try to build around him. We've at least tried hard to do right by him as we should have after making the decision to swing that trade and draft him #1 overall. When you do that, you're all in one way or the other. We've tried. He's in year three now and has 30+ starts under his belt and I honestly can't see how anyone can conclude that he's shown the ability to be anything more than a serviceable game manager type of starting QB and even that only in spurts. You can get that in a journeyman backup if you put the talent around him. I'm fine with sticking with Bryce through this season if we have to but after that it's time to move on. I'd honestly prefer to shop around and see if we could land competition in the trade market with a late round pick.

If they can't spend the same cap on a post rookie deal to keep propping him up then it's never going to get better. It's a dead end. Go get someone else's not good enough at a discount and get the same stuff for less with more cap to spend elsewhere or just take another shot at a rookie.

37 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Let's be honest, both Dalton and Bryce sucks. However, Dalton can definitely replicate Bryce's 150 yds a game. That's not the problem. The problem is Canales will get cute and have Dalton throw the ball 40+ times even though the Bills have the 31st ranked run defense. If the gameplan isn't to run Dowdle and Chuba 40+ times, then we already lost before the game started. 

The people saying we're gonna lose because Bryce is out is hilarious, acting like he's been the main catalyst for our 3 game winning streak lol Yeah, we more than likely lose, but it won't be because Bryce was out, it will be because Canales went full retard like yesterday. 

He isn't going to keep running even though that is what this team needs to function on both sides.

Not a guy you commit to long term for sure. The fact they have built this team around him and that's all they got is enough to walk away.

The easy schedule is over so are the gifted wins. 

I'm just glad I can watch some NFL football and not think it's college BS sunday. There will be at least 1 good team on the field after so many trash games of bottom teir football.

Dalton is washed and Young is a wasted Sunday. Sure

Not paying either anyrhing regardless

Or the passblocking is worse because of Bryce. It's obviously limited to fit his ability and it's predictable in what they can & want to do. 

The only good news is that if they do it won't be for long. 

He isn't a franchise QB and is a great example of a guy you don't want on anything other than a rookie contract. He isn't even worth a 5th year option. 

I don't think he could win a real competition against many other journeyman QBs. Once the Jets are done it's going to be the same old when the running yards get harder to come by every game. Can't play the worst defenses every week, even if that's what it feels like now given how easy the schedule has been so far. 

Again, the Huddle is more entertaining than the actual football team on game days.

Thanks dudes, especially the victim players who pick the funniest stances to laugh about. Cheers 

Wilks revenge game is more likely. Given how bad their D has been even that would be a little surprising 

He had a down second year but called himself out and has improved since. 

Going to have to cut some cap from that oline first tho

Weird since he put up with so much bad here for so long.

28 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is why I've stopped watching. I finally just accepted  that. After holding out some hope that Bryce could turn it around I'd seen enough. We're stuck in purgatory right now. A backup RB playing like the best player in the league doesn't change that reality. I've watched my last Bryce QB'd Panthers game. Wake me up when it's over.

Not trying to convince anyone else to do the same, not trying to take away from anyone else's joy, that's just where I'm at at this point.

I literally fell asleep yesterday after watching the first series for both team. The only decent team they have played this year was the Jags and that was game 1 for a new first time HC.

Lol trade what makes the offense functional? Keep both and be thankful because without them there isn't much more than Tet

Still an easy bet after this week when the weak part of the schedule is finished 

XL isn't smart enough to just stop talking to Newton

1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

I know plenty of people who were okay with Cam either way. 

He was saying Roger Goodhell wasn't one of them. Nore were a bunch of other owners is my guess.

It's what made winning that much sweeter. The haters had to choke on it.

42 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

This is the type of game we tend to lose 38-13. 

Being forced into a shootout? Yep. The D stopping a top performing O? Yep too. 

Set up to be a stat adjusting game IMO. I just don't know how the Panthers can play from behind if the other team keeps going. 

Dallas will be a test for both sides