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8 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

I can’t believe the Texans fired Slowik. They really had a bizarre offseason 

I can. They hired a great DC and he classically messed up a good thing on the other side. They had success on the offensive side and then took it for granted when team building. 

Personally I think they got lucky with Stroud and then did what their normal is. Im not a fan of their GM either so I just think your seeing the true normal from that group. 

There is a reason Kiffen wanted to remain a top DC vs taking on the switch to HC. Being great as a coordinator doesn't require the same talents that makes a great HC. Bowles is doing a better job as HC than I think of his times as a DC too. Fans just take it for granted that a great coordinator will automatically make a great HC.

Smart coach. Good attitude too.

Im a little shocked Bowles was able to find him as an OC after losing his OC the year before. For a deffensive HC to keep finding decent to good OCs is a huge hurdle. Look down at the Texans. The best DCs to HCs don't figure out thr other side very often and they can make a mess of it like that more often than not. 

I think we got the wrong one honestly. That is a quality HC or at least a guy who has a good chance of turning into one.

How about fug them both? Baker came in with an attitude problem. It wasn't a secret in Cleveland either. Wilks had a QB playing a DE on the scout team and hasn't stuck anywhere long so whatever is going on there it seems to be a thing. Right now Wilks is coaching a bottom 3rd D, one that was a top 3rd 2 years ago, so it's not even spilt milk people are crying over...not sure what it is but it isn't very good. I say that while still appreciating the post Rhule effort.

Fug them both and the fact this team still can't beat Baker in Tampa is the only thing in all of this worth being upset about IMO. 

It Was putting me to sleep too

I wish we had Stroud. Young would have already washed out on the Texans. Their entire staff would have already been fired and he would be on his second team by now. 

Mean while fans here are celebrating 1-2 in the easy part of the schedule.

Pull a Hurney and just move him to IR. Call it a bad case of effortitis. 

He looks to be the David Moore of the Vikings...while Moore is worse

Same as if we had kept Clowney to play in rotation. There he is on his retirement tour. Here he would have been much needed value in helping fill out gaps in production. Those guys aren't suposed to carry your team at that point in their careers. Just make a few well timed plays while setting the younger guys up for more success around them.

We should have traded XL but they made him a sandwich. 

That trade up isn't looking so genius now. Im not sure he will turn it around here after the PR blitz they put out on him. Just trade him and learn freaking something from it finally. Players are not fixing the seat situation at the stadium. A good product on Sundays will. Boring ass football won't.

5 hours ago, hepcat said:

Deangelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart got Jon Gruden fired. 

Not being able to find a QB got Gruden fired. Didn't he have like 7 QBs his last year and none were good. That should be firable for an offensive guy after that many years of looking. He had to play Jeff Garcia from the grave his last 2 years...

Then they hired Morris lol

I don't think this will be answered for a few games. I think Dallas will start the reality check. NE and Miami are more toss up games, who knows what those look like at this point. 

Jackson is Morgan's best move and exactly what you want to find later in the draft and in trades. Good player who is reliable and worth what they are paying him. I wish we had 10 more players like him. 

He isn't catching Olsen who was a great player but that's not a negative but just the reality. 

I'm not sure that says what some of you think it says about the Panthers. 

It is funny to me but again not the way you might think it's funny. Some picked up on it...

56 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

So you watched a 9 play 61yd TD drive in which the QB was 5/7 for 40+yds and a TD run and were like “what a terrible drive”?

Yeah it was like watching two bottom teams slap fight and play ugly small ball in the preseason to me. hard pass on that personally. 

46 minutes ago, ThPantherFan said:

I'm right there too.  I didn't watch the Panthers.  We are not a Prime Time team.  A blind hog will find an acorn eventually.  I've been a Panthers Fan from the beginning.  When they get their head out of the ass and start looking like a Prime team, then I'll watch.  Not spending hard earned money to go see them play.

I'll watch the first series on both side but if it is a game where one side shows up as DOA then I don't need to waste 4 hours of my Sunday. 3 toilet bowl games in a row is too much for me. It's like the anti-playoffs. 

When I couldn't even find a watchable game on the other channel it was an easy call to just walk away for the day. 

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

I think we are building the defense which is who we are. As for offense we are acquiring good pieces for whoever the QB is. If not Bryce then the next one. Maybe Canales can do something with Hooker. Who knows.

I am skeptical of anything they are building. There is Brown, 2 CBs and Tet for me. Maybe Ickey solidifies in that group or he stays in his current good enough category.

It is but no one has to agree or care. That's also a freedom. 

6 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I feel for you then. Obviously the losing broke you. Why not pick a team you can be happy about? Or a different sport if you are done with football.

Im doing all the NFL has to provide for me which is making fun of the mess Tepper made.

If the Browns and 49ers owners can eventually figure out how to do better than there is always next build. That's the only hope ai have for the Panthers and it's held since 2020 when the Rhule debacle was rolled put and fell flat. 

Laughter is great. I would rather have good football but that hasn't been around since 2018 so laughter it is.  

1 hour ago, therealmjl said:

“Can’t sit through the game” but an active member/complainer on the huddle.

Makes sense.

It's been the only real fun since Tepper bought the team but some people take a lot longer to catch up to that fact. Welcome to the future dude

16 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

You clearly didn't watch the game. It wasn't ugly it was glorious. A pick six and almost another by Jackson and keeping Atlanta's rushing game in check after being so porous.

You think this is an aberration which it probably is. But I hope it is a harbinger of things to come especially on defense. The Panthers formula outside of a few years with Cam is to have a great defense and an opportunistic offense who makes the most of short fields and minimizes turnovers. I would like to get back to that.

It's not saddly. We had these last year too. It was 2 bad teams but if it makes you feel better then fan how you want as always. I just can't sit through them anymore personally, just too boring. Atlanta showed up with nothing yesterday and ran their game like a practice again. 

47 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

I’m confused, our first drive was a touchdown.

19 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Missed a great game. Watching surly pissed off Falcon fans parade out of the stadium after talking so much crap coming in was delightful. What a wonderful beat down. Who knows how things go down the road but yesterday was one for the ages.

38 minutes ago, csx said:

You should join their forum.

3 games in a row of crap level football and that's with the usual begining of the season curb. Multibillion dollar industry and it's all toddler slap fighting. If that floats your boat then have at it.

Nothing about this team looks like it will not be picking top 10 again. The biggest competition there is the continued devolution of the NFL into the low quality of the school leuge.

I miss good football and not celebrating a loser winning a few ugly games. 

2 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

That probably is a part of it but I really think the QB rule changes and move away from violence and physicality for ball carriers was the biggest change the NFL had ever gone through and impacted the game immensely. Even more so than the Mel Blount. I was watching the 2008 AFC championship game the other day and it’s a completely different sport. 

It should have helped but they can't prop up the level of quality even with those rule changes. It helped WRs where duds can be identified really early. The QB play is so bad teams are fine with playing washed guys who still outshine the younger guys. The olines has also dropped. 

It's softer for sure but I still think it's what is being filled up into the leauge.

15 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Turning a game off when we actually have a lead is crazy talk

I'm done with crap football. That game was terribly boring and the football quality was terrible.

3 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

It’s not the teams, it’s the league. Since 2018 GMs have spent considerable time and resources building personnel for nickel and dime packages. It caught up in 2024 and offenses are adapting back ahead of it. Look no further than the SB champions last year. 

That's the normal changes the leauge always has. something new and then the adaptation.

The talent coming out of school is just not very good and has been on a decline for some time. 

It's really bad football to watch. At their best it's boring and hard to find any respect for that wasted time. 

Are there any decent teams anymore in the NFL or is it just bad vs worse every game?