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Lolz just keep coming. We spend value to bring in anyone being cast aside by bad teams so they can make a deal for a good prospect. Fug that. Draft a QB because apparently if they are duds then we can still trade them for at least a #8 pick to get another chance at a non-dud.

Panthers swimming in the QB market of 2021

Tua and Darnold are both worth replacing so I assume they will pick QBs until they prove otherwise. Who knows, bad teams make bad decisions. I sure hope we luck into a drafted QB this year. Thr other options are bleak as hell. I don't even think Goff is safe, it looked like a contract dump to me over a talent acquisition.

Everyone looking at the Panthers and their QB need like

This QB needy offseason is starting to feel like reading a menu at a restaurant that serves Leftovers as an entre. 

If it is EA I just assume it is broke and will not work right.

That is a very positive sign! Please keep them coming!

Just now, Jon Snow said:

Fitts is well known for his scouting background so I'm sure he has scouted damn near every player drafted by someone at some point.  I am sure he also has knowledge of the guys already on the team a good deal better than we do.  It doesn't take long for him and Rhule to discuss the teams current needs and anyone that has watched more than a couple of our games can obviously see where the weakest links are. 

I say we give this new crew some time to put it all together before we declare it a failure right out of the gate.

There are plenty of concerns, his supposed scouting background being a positive is one of mine. I haven't been very impressed with Seattle's talent evaluation since their scouting guru left to kill his carrier with WTF. To this day, they are keeping their heads above water from the work he did, that is impressive.

They want some respect for me it's going to have to be earned. I'm a fan, not a cheerleader. I hope they can pull it off and prove what we all hope but that doesn't mean the concerns just evaporate away without them proving them to not be an issue. 

The move makes sense for the Rams. They are a playoff team and Stafford is the missing piece. We were hoping Stafford makes us a playoff team. Not the same thing at all.

I do not like how rushed this felt. We would give up our chance at options to lock in with Stafford way before getting into free agency or time for the new GM to get his feet under him. No thank you.

One year deal, at the minimum an upgrade over Teddy. Then we could draft and sit a rookie. No deal if he wants any guarantees in 2022.

Sadly better than our LT options currently. Man I hope that changes soon. Still, good coaching should help this less then desired situation. Hard to get to the SB without injuries. TB has to know to throw speed at him for 4 quarters non stop.

8 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Eh not really. What makes it hard is when you have an owner who knows nothing hiring coaches that know nothing. 
 

Never thought Rhule deserved the job. Didn’t do poo in college. Now you put him in charge of personnel and he seems desperate rather than calculated. Overcorrection never works. 

I like Rhule as a HC, not as a HC in charge. Not sure how Fritters fits in but there are plenty of reasons to doubt. This trade with thr amount of time he has had to take in the team leaves me concerned about thr level of dumb incoming.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not even sure it's a power split so much as it's just that they have different roles.

Officially speaking at least, Rhule has final say on the roster.

Final say on the roster is a huge power. Especially from a guy that isn't interested in player evaluation. That makes this dynamic a different and interesting to see how it goes. 

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Right now the relationship between Rhule and Fitterer is labeled as a partnership.  Rhule runs the "process" and the players on the field. Fitt is charged with finding said players.  In theory if they are always able to come to mutual agreement on the major personnel decisions with each focusing on the important part of their perspective roles it should go smoothly. 

At least that's what I got from it.  Tepper rights the checks so he's the boss.

That is what it sounds like they are pitching, it's just that during the hiring process it sounded like Rhule gave his blessing to find someone who would work that way with him. Tepper is certainly the boss, to call his football IQ young is polite.

I don't get the feeling that we are doing it the way Ron is running WTF, a sad attempt at the NE model. Still, I'm not sure Rhule is 50/50 power split with Fritters. It's just too young to confirm yet. 

Meh, senior bowl is just the NCAA giving a kick back to less talented players that stayed in school. There really isn't a QB I would be happy with in the pack.

1 minute ago, NAS said:

Don't get me wrong, I don't want this guy in the first or otherwise.  I'm actually kind of concerned that Rhule is giving him so much praise. Perhaps, it's just coach speak. 

I hope so otherwise anyone in front of him is just so amazing.

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Also worth mentioning that whether you accrue a season or not, you can't stop your body from getting a year older.

Don't you know that all QBs have to play to 45 like Brees and Brady. It's thr new normal.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I do think using that high a pick on a potential replacement for a quarterback you're now saying you have no plans to part ways with plays out as being kind of goofy.

Rodgers has complained before about the team not giving him enough help. He might have a point.

Lack of control and direction. Hell, Roger's has more influence then most of the staff on a team owned by fans. Nothing about that leads me to be optimistic this doesn't underwhelm.

It is goofy and dangerous. His ego has been a known thing. That makes it also incredibly stupid and avoidable. For Love? Just dumb on so.many levels.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

That's the thing.

Is he doing a terrible job or did he just make a terrible choice?

The Packers did at least make it to the NFC championship this year.

 As far as the terrible choice vs terrible job, we will find out soon because if he keeps making bad choices it will confirm he is also doing a terrible job.

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rhule officially has final say on the roster but has said that he isn't interested in that.

He's not gonna be taking part in the personnel acquisition process outside of talking to Scott Fitterer about what they want.

That was what I understood, I am just waiting for actual confirmation through actions. My response was more tuned to the other poster that doesn't understand you can evaluate more than just the guy in charge.

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

In a similar vein...

Call me crazy, but I kind of think using your first round pick on someone other than a guy who became your third string quarterback might have improved things just a little.

The fact he said he has no regrets should be enough to fire the guy for doing a terrible job.

9 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

I thought Rhule was in charge?

Yes Rhule is the HC and all signs point to him having control to some degree. He still has people working under him that can be analyzed.

Im encouraged by looking around. I'm concerned we are on the cusp of doing something incredibly dumb that will result in another wasted year or years.

Just now, kungfoodude said:

I think the concern is having an NFL caliber starting QB. Make no mistake, Matt Stafford is a top 10 NFL QB. Those don't grow on trees.

It isn't likely we obtain one of those at #8. It is actually pretty unlikely that happens.

Stafford is the peice that gets a playoff fridge team over thr hump or new staff hired. We are not even a fringe playoff team and trading for an old QB vs finding a young on to build around is my concern. Maybe that's how this will go, I just think it's a crap option.