Jay Roosevelt

An actual modern NFL offense?

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I really cannot understand what the plan was when they drafted him. His size added so many challenges to a rookies development as it was. 

His throwing velocity was only a couple mph lower than Stroud's, but you cannottell it.

His deep throw was about 7-10 yards less than Stroud's.  I think 55 compared to about 65 air yards, but it looks much worse. 

His mechanics, or throwing motion was all over the place, but he was the most pro ready, supposedly.

Not to mention the size difference. It's like his off script plays out weighed everything else. 

Whatever they were thinking it certainly didn't work out.

I think there really is something to the idea of a fast-processing QB, but they were foolish if they thought he could just step right into the NFL and have success without improving his mechanics and footwork.

I thought that was the whole reason we hired a supposed "QB guru" with 200 years of experience like Frank Reich, but it doesn't appear that they even really bothered to improve these things. 

Evero for Carroll?

1 hour ago, CRA said:

I don't' think footwork is viewed the same today as it was long ago.   Well, not how it has been talked about by fans for decades.  

I mean, do the best QBs in the game today have good traditional footwork?  I would say they don't.  So I'm not sure we missed something.   Issue for Bryce is he doesn't have the physical gifts that do and he needs ideal footwork and mechanics to have a chance to get the ball where it needs to get.  That what I don't' think the Panthers understood....that his size and arm are an issue.  And it's a hard ask to expect him to be so elite that that can easily just deal with his physical shortcomings at this level. 

If that's the case it's absolutely something you'd expect your veteran experienced head coach and former NFL QB to understand and address.

You can't coach physical attributes, but you can and should be coaching footwork and mechanics whether your QB is built like a Greek god or not.

I'm sure Canales - as a former QB coach - will have a plan for what Bryce needs to be working on. And even his biggest detractors can't accuse Bryce of being lazy so I'm sure he'll attack it head-on.

That alone should lead to some significant improvement.

The footwork thing has always baffled me. How can we have two supposed QB "gurus" on staff and they didn't even bother to address Bryce's footwork?

At some point you do have to start wondering about Ben Johnson. I get waiting for the right job but after a certain point it starts to feel like he's lacking in confidence or something.

I don't have any issue with Jim Caldwell staying on as an advisor. Unlike with Frank Reich it actually makes sense with a young, first-time HC in Canales to have someone like Caldwell in that role.

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Dude looks like he could be the defensive line by himself

Jesus Christ.

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Pretty much.  He was more of a mentor to Frank, per his own words. How did that work out Frank?

Why did 95-year old Frank Reich need a mentor on staff?

Not for less than a 1st rounder. I know he's been injured a lot but he's shown to be a top corner when healthy. I'd hate to see him pull a CMC, get traded and suddenly be healthy every game.

Now, a contract extension is a different story. He'll have to prove he can stay healthy for that. But to give him away for some mid-round pick? Nah.

22 hours ago, Martin said:

Based on what they did with Tyrek, it will be very interesting to see what happens with Burns. I would bet they won’t overpay him. It will be the first test of the new regime. If we’re building, I’d assume we will try to trade him for assets/draft picks, which is what I’d prefer as well. Sign Brown and Luvu, trade Burns.

I mean obviously we have to tag him regardless. Even if we only get lowball offers and end up having to take one we can't let him go and get nothing at all in return.

I think rather than looking for premium draft pick compensation for Burns a more realistic scenario might be trading him for a player + a mid-round pick to a team that needs help at pass rusher.

Burns to Seattle for D.K. Metcalf + a 3rd or something of that sort.

30 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

kindof sortof, their cap situation was in a position where they couldnt resign Tyreek

That was never going to happen. You can't possibly pay Mahomes what he's making and pay Tyreek Hill what he wanted and got from the Dolphins.

They did about the best they could with that whole situation.

Boy, McCaffrey would have been DEADLY in this offense.

That said, I see us signing/drafting a pass catching RB this year.

We really don't, though.

Bryce is his own insurance. What I mean by that is if he continues to struggle next year it will likely ensure we're in position to take another QB high in 2025.

Why mess that up by investing more draft capital (or cap space) in another QB who is unlikely to be "the guy" even if Bryce doesn't pan out?

6 hours ago, 07579394 said:

He was good when under Matt Rhule and Steve Wilks

Was he, though?

Overrated.

"Fixed" is a relative term, but I think it's possible to an extent. In Bryce's case, however, I don't think it's a matter of "fixing" him as much as it's unlocking his potential.

I don't think any QB can be viewed as needing fixing after their rookie year, especially when you consider how many of our issues on offense were independent of Bryce's own struggles.

Baker Mayfield? Geno Smith? They needed fixing. Tua needed fixing. Jared Goff to an extent as well.

Bryce is still a largely blank slate for Canales to work with and mold. And that's exactly how I would approach it, too. Coach Bryce like a rookie. Forget all the Frank Reich, Josh McCown, Thomas Brown square pegs and round holes; just mold the offense to his strengths and do your best to improve the situation around him.

I imagine it'll be a Wizard of Oz moment for Bryce; like going from black and white to full color, just not having so many different voices in his ear preaching different philosophies.

Will it be enough? Maybe. Maybe not. But I at least feel like Bryce has a chance under Canales. That's more than I could say with the previous regime.

Been saying this all week. The more I looked into Canales the more I wanted him as our HC.

13 minutes ago, SaltAndPepper said:

I cannot be the only one who thinks Canales as a shot to be the best HC in the division in two years. 

Three defensive coaches versus an offensive one. Hopefully he eats em up.

And we probably have the best defensive coach in the division still.

Wow, didn't see Morris to the Falcons. I guess the old GOAT is seeing his career put down like Ole' Yeller.

7 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Guys, Tom Cable kind of really sucks. Seattle fans absolutely hate him from his time there. Why do you want him?

 

Yeah, not a fan of Tom Cable.

1 hour ago, philit99 said:

Another epic fail, I’m out, last straw. See you mofos in about 5 years. Fugging ridiculous. Another one year fugging wonder. We are pitiful..

Bye.

Could not care less about this. Frank Reich had almost 40 years of experience as a player and coach and we saw how that turned out. Matt Rhule had 1 year as an assistant OL coach in the NFL and was just as bad.

There are plenty of examples of coaches succeeding and failing with varying levels of experience. If Canales fails, it won't be because he only had 1 year as a coordinator.

I was lukewarm when I first heard we were interviewing him, but the more I learned about him the higher on my list he went.

Love his energy and the way he talks about offensive football. You can tell he's a progressive offensive mind in terms of scheme but is also flexible enough to mold his scheme to the players he has.

This is the type of hire we should have made back in 2020 instead of gambling on Matt Rhule and it's the type of hire we damn sure should have made last year instead of old man Reich.

Slowick was my first choice but the more I learned about Canales the more I liked him as a candidate.

He will bring a new energy to the team, I think. Hopefully he can get this poo show turned around.