Panthero

6 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Don't know who this kid is, bur I'm undefeated on Madden with Byrce Young!!

Just now, PantherBoy95 said:

Pieing now to make it happen.

Seconded

46 minutes ago, SaltAndPepper said:

https://theathletic.com/5376327/2024/03/29/carolina-panthers-free-agency-nfl-draft-mailbag/

 

We have our two route runners. Will that impact the “style” of receiver we look for in the second round? — Alexander S.

The kind that gets open and makes plays. Canales likes his guys to know all of the receiving spots. So while Adam Thielen is pretty well locked into the slot at this point in his career, my sense is the Panthers will prioritize speed and separation ability over whether a guy’s more of an X or Z.

This was one of the questions that was on the JP mailbag. So does this mean we're looking less in the direction of Legette and Coleman and more in the direction of a McConkey and Burton?

 

Well we've already got the fool and the hanged man covered, I'd prefer a hero or two. Perhaps an old sage too. 

we need a WR (thielan and DJ are likely gone after 24), C (corbett is a total wild card and will be gone in 25 regardless), DE (may totally implode), CB (our only real threat cant stay healthy to this point), and LB (need a third to rotate in and eventually push shaq out the door) in that order.

the first three will play significant minutes the fourth hopefully can play a lot of minutes, hopefully not because of an injury to Horn. 

LB really will be a depth piece at this point but a position we have to prioritize in the 25 draft, along with a real TE threat and need to hit CB again. 

13 minutes ago, rayzor said:

he would be pretty easy to scheme against, just run it his way all game and watch him jump out of the way.

48 minutes ago, jtm said:

The market is different now plus we don’t have the Aaron Rodgers or Mahomes factor where players will take less to get a shot at a Super Bowl 

Fair, my point was even with that his long term average is not far off of what we paid. So a slight overpay for a position we absolutely had to have. I'm cool with it. 

6 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

LMAO

 

With our luck this might be true.

 

We overpaid to get him considering his contract from last season. Dude quadrupled his salary from last season. 

Yeah but only looking at last season is misleading. His average salary the previous four years (not last year) is around 9.2 million, so it's not that far off. One of those years it was 12 mil, so removing that it's like 7.5 to 8. 

5 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

I get not a lot of people watch ACC ball but it’s Payton Wilson for me and I’m a UNC guy.

Wilson arguably had the best season of any linebacker in FBS football last year and he does everything well. He can get after the QB, stop the run, he’s great in coverage, his angles are excellent, etc… All of his question marks (i.e. injury history, strength, and age) have nothing to do with his actual play.

Just watch his tape against UNC, he absolutely dominated.

His competitive nature is exactly what the Panthers need.

I’d take the risk that his injury history is behind him and that with some NFL weight lifting, he’ll get a little stronger.

I get sean lee vibes, ILB for the cowboys. 2nd rounder, long career --- but didn't play many complete seasons. Buy when healthy a top 5 lb. 

1 hour ago, Lame Duck said:

Let’s wait for the results.  We have been honeydicked by Fitts and Gettleman in first 1-2 years too.

be interesting to see how they make the cap work. here's the way having tepper is a benefit, he'll pay top dollar for non-player personnel. if you arent an ahole that can be a big draw. hopefully that contract wiz we hired is gonna do some things. 

36 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

During the last interview with Morgan, I think he said (Basically) that the free agency wave is over and they were now looking toward the draft.

 

Clowney says otherwise playa. 

1 hour ago, shaqattaq said:

FWIW.

i saw that, but as a counter point they have Derrick Brown's market value at 11.7 annual. which is of course lol. 

35 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Danna is alright but he doesn't really fit into EE's scheme all that well. He's better than nothing though. 

I wish they would go Edge in the 2nd. I wouldn't mind having somebody like the kid front Utah.

Is he more of a 4-3 guy? I know he's not a blitz specialist, but I'm not familiar with KC defensive scheme. 

36 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Ok so Canales said he wants another vet at qb3, which I didn't know the head coach got to make that decision but let's assume that's where we're headed. 

Which one of these bums do you want 

yikes, looks worse than the DE options. 

15 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I wouldn't mind people narrowing their search to the 3-4 too. 

Campbell is a 3-4 DE, but Dupree absolutely isn't (for example). 

is there another example? think thats the only guy that doesnt at least play edge/olb in multiple fronts.  

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I think you guys should narrow your search to young guys with something to prove and willing to take a 2 year deal befitting their current situation, and vets willing to sign the equivalent to a 1 year contract. That's about all this team is going to do in FA this year.

Agreed, but the only guy (from the above list) who wouldnt be one of those is probably Danna. The rest i doubt they can convince anyone for multiple years. certainly not the older guys. Maybe Clowney can. 

10 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Derek Barnett re-signed with Houston

throw in Randy Gregory and Jerry Hughes as possible options 

i searched for all of them, didnt see that on Barnett. thx for sharing. 

lol. I'd sign billy boucher if i thought he could add 5-6 sacks. 

2 minutes ago, Thompcat said:

I think Danna could be a good pick up. As stated he is young (26 yrs old) and upside is real 

yeah, i'm honestly surprised he hasnt been mentioned more. He's not a world beater but he's competent and even though the rub is he's not a run stopper, i thought he looked decent in that category from what little game film i watched (not highlights). 

Looks like here is who is still available, there are some others but not worth mentioning. 

Clowney-- would be solid, may be too expensive. i'm suspicious of his most recent year. like Kyle Van Noy and others (that are not free agents), that Ravens DL all had really good years, so hard to disentangle where the group gets the kudos or the individual player. 

Calais Campbell-- not really what were looking for, older than Methuselah

Carl Lawson--Oft injured, absolute model citizen, if he can recreate 2022 season could be a huge steal.  

Mike Danna-- 50 tackles and 6.5 sacks last year. Could do worse. 

Derek Barnett-- Nah, very little production in several years. 

Kyle Van Noy-- Older dude, but still produces. a 5-6 sack type of guy, but may be about to drop off. did well last year, but was an outlier on a great deep defense. 

Anfernee Jennings--more of a run stopper, but a very good one.

Bud Dupree--Trending down badly, quickly. former hoss. 

Yannick Ngakoue- Boom or bust guy, seems to be a sack only guy, not responsible for many tackles. Seems to hold up well. missed very few games. last year was pretty weak. 

verdict: If we cant get Clowney, Mike Danna looks solid. 

Adding Danna gives you two competent (and young) guys and three guys with upside (barro, chaisson, johnson). 

doesnt have to be clowney, but i'd love another DE or two and a solid number two corner. Dane seems like a very good backup, guy that can spell for a game or two. 

1 hour ago, Future of the Funchise said:

Some of y'all are worse than my gf. Just go looking for problems.

You gotta chill. That's like saying you're not sure if you're wife's good for you because her ex was able to peacefully move on and isn't broken up over things.

somewhere theres a man glad to be rid of the woman you love (not you specifically), let that crop dust your thoughts. Muhahahahahahahahhahahaha

21 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

Yep. It’s why I hate seeing all the trade down proposals in here. We saw where that got us a poo ton of pennies in 2021 and no real starters. We had 11 picks and the only real starter from that draft is a guy who’s played in only 40% of our games. I don’t count Hubbard as a starter because it’s only because our expensive FA starter was so butt. Chubba was bottom rung starter but our offense was so bad we felt like he was good. 11 picks and the best we did was a CB at pick 8 who plays 7 games a year.

More picks won’t help. We need 33, 39 and 65 to all end up as average NFL starters or better. If we don’t we’re treading water in the 2-5 win range. Same thing for 2025’s draft. Our 1st and likely top of the 3rd have to be starters and the 1st has to be a legit stud.

my only disagreement is we need all of our picks to hit. one of these drafts we need to pull a saints and get 5-6 starters from one draft. 

1 hour ago, CRA said:

some lists get real murky after the top couple guys are named....

I think Jones and Williams are 1 and 2.  Then you got like 6 or 8 guys you could all start arguing for.  But there is a solid clump of guys that all would have good arguments for those 3 final spots IMO. 

 

exactly. Brown may be 5, he may be 10. either way, hes a badass and i'm glad to have him. still no reason to give out wild overpays. 25 like mentioned above is about it to me. 

not sure i can make a case why he deserves more than number 6 and 7 on this list. 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/defensive-tackle/

14 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

LMAO 

 

He deserves 30 for putting up with this franchise under Tepper.

Nah. I'm an Auburn fan, but if we give him thirty it's an overpay. He's a top ten DT, but he's not top 5.  

On 3/24/2024 at 12:16 AM, rayzor said:

Too much?

Looks good to me.