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TE is extremely deep in this class. Unless he's a once in 5 year talent, it's a reach positionally. 

I like Kenneth Graham if we are gonna target a NT. 

I think we need dl, de, lb, and cb. Not sure we can afford tripling at the line. But i don't know poo. 

Jon Snow speaks the truth. That draft can eat a big ole pecker. 

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Cowboys are in a bad spot too, but the browns take the cake. 

55 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Graham is not actually a consensus top 10 guy.

Abdul Cater and Mason Graham. These guys will surprise and be drafted top 10. I'll bet anyone here who thinks otherwise.  

Good points. Just would like to have that seamless transition from Moton. Not trying to run him off but don't want to go back to musical chairs at OT. 

If moving on from Moton is on the table then I'm fine with it. If everyone first around pick went to ol or dl I wouldn't be mad. 

DEs always scare me. Seems like the miss rate is high (just my anecdotes, not evidence based). Seem to take 3 years to get good if they ever do. 

Any injured guys! Don't care how good they are. 

I pounded the table for McMillian but I dont think he's a true number one now. In that case it's a big overpay. 

Nolan or Graham are the only ones I feel comfortable on, tbh. 

Agree with kungfu. There are some absolutely viable RBs in the 4th and 5th round. 

Watch Jarquez Hunter be there. Guy would be a steal. 

2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

In his career, he has missed 2 full seasons with groin injuries. 

He had a groin pull the likes of which you've never seen in your whole life!   

8 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Honestly, I'd like to see Eddie come back, he's been more than reliable for us. They all miss kicks now and then and he's been better than most. However, there's probably a top end to pay for a kicker when you're rebuilding a team, so he could quickly get out of our price range.

If he goes elsewhere, good luck to him, he did right by us. And some other guy is going to get a shot at one of only 32 spots to do that job there are in the world. Good luck to that guy, too.

Edit to add: Wouldn't be the same without JJJ around here. Glad he will stay on, there's going to be a lot of new faces on special teams, we need that veteran presence.

Good thing we have a 7th round pick.

Hes the kinda guy that can play to 38, but man we are just so far away. If this we're year 4 with Bryce then maybe. Just think it's too soon. 

Really? Don't we need a kicker? Thought the "all time most accurate" kicker was getting shipped. 

How confident are you that we take a kicker with our seventh round pick?

10 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

There is no way I'd be happy with this team drafting a receiver at 8.  

This defense needs a lot of talent, you can't do that by skipping talent at the top of the draft. 

A receiver at 8 isn't going.to help us if our defense can't stop the opposing team. I don't care how close we came to beating the superbowl teams this last season. 

Edge. DT. LB.  ALL is neededed.  BPA with the front 7 in mind.  

Fix the defense,  please, or this team will still be hard to watch. 

If mcmillian isn't a true number 1 (i have no idea) then I agree completely. But this is an offensive league. In no way do we have a top 5-10 wr corp. So we can certainly use a standout wr. Regardless of how bad the D is to this point. 

1 hour ago, AU-panther said:

I never said anything about need or positional value, I was pointing out that comparing players based on their positional rank is pointless and that isn’t how teams look at it, they look at grade. 

I know what you said, scrow and I elaborated. Those grades if close default to positional need and value. Get some. 

5 hours ago, AU-panther said:

Teams don’t think in terms of positional rankings, they think in terms of grades.

CB2 could have a higher grade than Edge2 or even WR1. 
 

Think in terms of tiers.  Wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of teams end up with  1-2 players in their top tier, and 3-4 in the next.  If any of those fall to 8 they have to be considered. 

Yes, but positional value matters when you include FA and the draft. If I need to bring in a free agent do I want to pay a high end edge or safety? Obviously an impact safety is much cheaper. Buidling your OT, DE, CB, WR, and QB through the draft makes the most sense. Fill in the rest with FA - safety, te, lb, rb, oc, etc. 

So unless a safety is rated far higher, you always default to the premium positions as your high level draft picks. 

Hadn't seen Nolan that high. Prefer the michigan kid if we go interior.

Cam won Auburn a title. For that I'll love him all of my days. But sometimes he's kinda dumb. 

It's a trap. Two years at 7, three at 5. 

If we are going to draft McMillian, I'd almost rather get the guy from Iowa state, looks like a natural X. Feel like that first round needs to he dt or edge. 

We need DE, DL, WR, CB in that order. Assuming the talent falls correctly, that's my opinion on our needs.