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15 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Prepare thy self. I bet we’ll be looking for two of those three.

18 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I kinda feel the opposite. 6th and 7th round picks are basically the NFL equivalent of a scratch off lottery ticket. If you need a kicker or punter it's not a bad investment if there's a good rookie available. What other positions are you going to be able to get the best prospect available at that point in the draft?

those 6th and 7ths, go ALL-IN or focus on OG, DB, and LB. The hit ratio for those three groups is much higher than others. I mean rookie kickers are no better than the street FAs. TB drafted one in the 2nd round and he ended up on panthers and five other teams shortly. 

The "all-in" part is the Greg Hardy's and stefon diggs guys. Even a guys that has some injuries, that at one point was ranked as a 2nd rounder. Just take higher risks at that point or go for the solid OG, LB, or DB. If you find a starting CB, its 20x the worth of a "starting" kicker that is one year away from getting cut. 

After sanders my next favorite pick was Michael Barrett, I think he's got a similar chance to replace Shaq same as the 3rd rounder wallance. I loved what the pats did when they drafted milton with maye, that's how you use the late rounders. The waste is drafting a guy that is out-played by a young street FA. 

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's just not smart. Other than a handful of truly elite kickers in the league everyone else at the position is viewed as completely replaceable. They're obviously going to bring in other kickers and all it takes is for one to show a lot of promise for you to get told to hit the bricks and now you're just one of the guys being brought in somewhere else just hoping to win a job. 

kicker is weird about the value it carries. Darrin has said what you did and I agree unless the team is a upper playoff or just firm playoff roster. If its a solid team, you need to have one of those top kickers. The pressure is totally different kicking in a 14-3 playoff game than a end of season 1-14 game. 

Kickers' value is based loads on the type of team they are on. 

Plus I've always maintained its beyond dumb to waste draft picks on kicker, punter, or LS. Like you said there's the elite and bunch of guys ranked 10-25 and then 20 more in tier 3. Teams are always cutting good ones for whatever reasons as well. 

I make the similar statements about backup QB. WHo cares about the backup on a 5-12 team..... but if the roster is stacked, its your top job to get a great backup QB. I'd even say its a top 10 position on a playoff team. 

Everyone thinks it was Brady was the reason for those playoff wins and Superbowls, but I member Adam Vinatieri winning plenty of those games(ugh..). Justin Tucker is another example and he's finally got old this past year. KC has a elite one too........ It's a super important part if the whole team is playoff bound. 

icky was free to stunts, biltzs, and twists last year- same for the whole OL. that's when I gave up on campy, zero improvement form week2week. OL was not listening, then reports of tepper, fittererererrer, tepper wife watching OL drills......I'm out.

Lastly how does this guy think he would coast on his "good" rookie season??? the whole time campy was giving help to him and holding his hands. then he entered season 2 and thought it would repeat??

I got just little more faith in ickys turnaround over young's. He should have gotten benched last season too. 

He must workout, cause you can not be a team that's looking for LT, QB, WR, and edge at the same fuging time.....SOMEONE has to step up!

Such a poo show now, made it easy to drop following them. 

On 5/25/2024 at 7:52 AM, electro's horse said:

alright im going to post seriously here for a second

what you are seeing with bryce young is the confluence of some well understood cognitive phenomenon: mistaking what you want to happen for what is happening and working backwards from there (call this working backwards from a conclusion/cognitive dissonance, im sure im mixing up the terms a little here), and getting scammed and defending the scammer (call this the gregor macgregor affect i don't know there's probably a term somewhere, google is unusable.)

People who care a lot about the Panthers want them to have a good player at the most important position in the game, and the Panthers gave up a ton to be in position to take one, and they took one, so that must be the good player. There is obviously an overload of available information any lay person can find that they can use to convince themselves that what they wanted was happening. to the lay person, it was aggressively obvious right away that it wasn't going to work out. it was clear halfway through the first quarter of the atlanta game he did not belong in the nfl. a bird's eye view of the season shows at best the second worst season ever. But people who really wanted something to be true cannot accept this, and instead pick apart details or blame things or wishcast into the future or move goalposts to defend it because they cannot accept that what they wanted and what they believed they had is actually....not there. People do this all the time. I've got a patient right now in late stage frontotemporal dementia and her POA just will not listen to me or hear what I'm saying because he was told I'm an amazing provider with inpatient neuro experience and when I look at him and say "you need to understand expectations" or "she has no quality of life" he just refuses to understand what I'm saying.

The second is this weird trait we have where if we get scammed, some people will defend the scammer. if you get bored read up on gregor macgregor and the mosquito coast, but basically he was charging people to join an expedition to settle this absolutely poo stretch of land in south america. all these people either died or had to be rescued, but when they returned to their home towns they refused to believe they'd been scammed, blamed other things, or even blamed themselves. This guy was CLEARLY a scam artist but they could not accept they, smart rational people etc had been scammed.

This is some weird vestigial evolutionary trait that helped a group of monkeys work together to take the watering hole and no of course there's no modern day political equivalent why you imply such a thing.

Panthers' fans were scammed with Bryce Young. Tepper (david or nicole im not sure which) were scammed with him. Obviously it's more complex than one scottish dude drunkenly walking into a bar in Buenos Aires but it's a similar setup. And yes the stakes are lower than moving to the other side of south america but a scam is a scam is a scam.

It is very difficult for people to admit that they, ostensibly smart, rational, logical people would believe and buy in to something so obviously rotten so the blame has to go somewhere else. Every problem with Bryce has an cause external to him, and all problems will be solved by /random thing that has happened the specifics don't really matter. Currently it's a guy who no other team interviewed for the HC position.

if you read this and your first instinct is that i'm attacking you, you need to take a deep breath and reevaluate some things. this is an opportunity for personal growth and you should take it.

surely some people will counter with "well it's just football it's not that serious and why does it hurt to be excited for something?" This is what's called a "though terminating cliche" and is just a cutesy little phrase meant to stop the conversation and help the person using it avoid defending their terrible ideas.

and to the person saying "lol wow you typed all this up u mad," <puts poo posting hat back> don't judge what i do by your own limitations. I'm much higher functioning than you and this was neither time or energy consuming for me. This is a casual thought. I am learning not to hold people to the same standards I hold myself, so I don't blame you for reacting defensively out of a sense of wonder and inferiority.

 

You either need to do waaay more drugs or waaay less drugs, your current intake is not right. Sorry I can not advise on which path to take.  

8 hours ago, KSpan said:

I've heard meth is pretty cheap these days, especially in Vegas, but adderall might be hard to find.

Oh wait... you mean upper deck seats. Never mind. 

How does anyone trust drugs these days? Only path I see, is using a test kit. 

On 5/21/2024 at 8:39 AM, Mage said:

As bad as things were with the Panthers last year, we still had 4 other games outside of the 2 we won that we came very close to winning.  Could throw the Falcons game in there too, it was tied going into the 4th.

I'm not really sure what to expect this year.  I don't think we'll make the playoffs.  However, we play in a very weak division where no team has a standout QB.  On paper, our OL should be good, and could be great if Ikem improves.  That alone could help mask a lot of problems on offense.  Should allow us to run the ball better.  Even if Bryce doesn't improve, the OL should at the very least give him more time to make the easy throws underneath and let a guy like Legette work his magic after the catch.

And I think this defense in a 2nd year with Evero should, at the very least, be in the top 16.  I'm expecting our run defense to be as good as it has been in years.

I think this team could push for 7-8 wins.  But it could also finish with 2 wins again.  That is just how the league works.  Jets offense was miserable last year, and yet they still won 7 games.  

We won't really get a good feel of it until after the preseason, and even then, who knows.

Bro they shouldn't have won those 2 games either. It took a couple 4th down conversions and 2 last second FGs. 

I hate to poo on fellow fans thinking 8 wins is within reach, the odds are nano size. I do not know the future and there are surprise teams each year, but the Panthers are not one of them this year. Young would need to break records and evero would have to win assistant of the year. This team lacks talent, young talent to be more correct. 

The best thing going for them is the piss poor NFC south. It took the heavens opening to beat ATL and they should be favored by 17 this year. Even in the worst division them barely won 2, this team is B-A-D.

On 5/21/2024 at 1:21 PM, Anybodyhome said:

Wonder how many of these Third Ward residents watch the Panthers play every week, yet they don't consider them an eye sore. Because, that's plenty painful to see.

None of them are form NC..

On 5/20/2024 at 3:35 PM, SmokinwithWilly said:

There's only one real solution. Give the team to me. 

You'd just smoke up the profits, tho.......

25 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Steve Smith was told he didn't belong on an NFL field.  

Sam Mills was told he didn't belong either. 

Yes, being bigger and stronger is helpful, but that doesn't ensure a long career in the NFL either, just ask Cam. 

Bryce is tough, but those two are light years tougher. 

Plus I can not name another sam mills or Smitty clone......my 1930s football is weak. 

That's the deal the odds are stacked against him. Plus my biggest issue was there's no- elite trait to make up for his size lack. Vick was a small&short NFLer, but he had elite movement and speed to make you go " I DO NOT CARE if he's 5'9.75, he just scored a 75 yard TD in which the defenders ran into themselves!!" 

He does have the rules are made to over protect QBs, unlike during Vicks era. 

Not to mention vick had a cannon along with elite wheels. 

21 hours ago, Verge said:

Top 5 cutest quarterback in the league at least. 

21 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

he's a cutie 

I think giving Brady the #1 spot will be a huge mistake. The other mistake was giving Brady that insane contract, what a joke.

Greg was a natural and still finding his pace when he talks too much. He should get the #1 spot back when Brady is done after this year. 

1 hour ago, Manna said:

This is cool. I mean I'm sure they have the technology to implant chips in to footballs and onto the fields to measure spatially where the ball is. But then that'd take the fun and anger out of reacting to the ref's subjective opinions lol. 

If they add chips to the football, how will bryce young throw them?!?!?!

facebook angles with AI, tech gone too far!!

new wakanda?!?!?

He is one unlucky dude, only other rookie Ive such praise for was CMC. Horn already had a pro mindset. Just like CMC he may over work his body. 

Hope he's here and health for a long time. 

20 minutes ago, trucpfan said:

How did he perform so well in college with these crazy wild mechanics. He's so far off I'm confused how he dominated at Bama. It shows the gap of talented players between college to the pros and it's not to be underestimated. 

there's the "king" and most feared RB in the league.

Carolina is at the stage where its dreaming to think dak would even come here, no matter your opinion of his play.

Best QB we had in 6 years is teddy 2 gloves, but posters here don't want dak....drug test da huddle!1!!1!

On 5/18/2024 at 8:29 AM, Jon Snow said:

I'm undecided. He comes off as a Pelaton instructor that's a bit overwhelmed with this football thing. 

This is your best huddle post in history!

3 hours ago, d-dave said:

Chris Donnelly made a great point about Bryce being so polarizing.  It sucks, but that's just how it is.  We need to start winning, and Bryce needs to play well.  Otherwise, it doesn't matter.

Just Huddle going Huddle...

I felt the Cam vibes on the huddle with Bryce, in fact its almost there. Threads that have no mention of young, turn in them. 

Only deal is Cam had tons more supporters/nut huggers. 

I honestly hated talking Cam with 90% of the huddle, in many eyes he was perfectly accurate with all his throws and if he had a legit great game the true haters were missing in action.  

Cam board is now a Bryce board...

8 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

The Niners owner had issues until he landed Shanny. 

Yes they were in the Panthers shoes, but the deal is they had talented players on the roster. 

49ers hired the same firm that Panthers used, they gave lynch a 6 year deal and he never been GM or scout. I believe he was doing color commentator games. They gave chip Kelly one year and before Jim " I only eat meatball subs" Tomsula one year, huge mess. Shanny is one of the best young minds in the NFL and he did save the 49ers. That's want panthers need a savior.....

It is hope for the Panthers, just need talented players and NOT to trade them away or over pay them....

1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

If only we'd invest in some actual talent at the qb3 spot instead of a guy Louisville fans couldn't say goodbye to fast enough. We could have gotten a better guy in FA, this dude didn't even get ranked on most top 30-40 qb prospects for just this draft class

Canalas came out a while back and said he wanted a vet type QB3, odd with Dalton. All reports Dalton's has been a great mentor for young. 

I agree with you, In the 5th I wanted them to toss a pick on a QB and had eyes on Jordan Travis. Even at that point the hater rattler would have been welcomed in my eyes. I liked what the pats did after drafting maye, Milton has some talent. Purdy was drafted a long with lance. Cousins was drafted with rg3. 

Panthers already had delhome, I doubt that happens again for some time. They shouldn't be scare to add legit competition for young, this is the NFL. 

45 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

The mid-level ones have been nice. Chiefs moved up for Mahomes and the Bills did for Allen. Build a strong roster and only use one future first to move and get a high ceiling QB was the formula in both cases. The Niners tried to replicate but overpaid and honestly didn’t really give Lance a chance once Purdy started winning. 

The people at the top of chiefs. bills, and 49ers the owners, coaches, GM are just light years better than panthers. Purdy was a life saver for 49ers, otherwise lynch and shanny would have been fired. I seen a recent report that after a few practices shanny told York purdy was the best QB on the roster. Better than jimmyg, lance, darnold. 

I hope Morgan and canalas show they close the gap, at least tepper spends plenty.......

2 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

As of right now IMO... 

Raiders, Bears (rookie QB), Commanders (rookie QB), Broncos (rookie QB), Giants (Europe game), and Cardinals seem winnable.  Throw in some division wins (Canales hopefully splits with Bucs, and I could see us splitting with the Falcons OR Saints if we make the right improvements...

To me that's 8 wins if everything goes our way (Bryce progresses, Evero's defense is playing great, running game is working, XL or Mingo turn into real threats, Johnson plays as good as he did in Pitt, etc...)

Realistically I'm thinking 6 wins and I think that could be a successful season with a new coach inheriting a 2-15 team.  6-11 with our offense looking better and playing competitive football and I'll be happy.

I do think 8 wins is the top limit for this group. Honestly them not winning a game has similar odds.

So 0-8 is the range. Add in the owner, last six years, No real first pick while nfc south had theirs among other low picks aka they got better, lost Burns, luvu, djak and others solid vets(boz, bell, etc). Last second FG wins, never lead in the 4th, didn't score a single point the final 2 games.

Im going with 2 dubs and I hope a surprise 8 wins claims the NFC south as they label the Panthers as the worst playoff team in NFL history!!