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1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

I don't think he's worthy of being nominated for the award this week, even with those very broken down stats.  He had a great statistical game, I'm not saying he didn't, I just see how it was a Top 6 statistical performance this week.

Brown's 10 receptions for 132 Yards and 2 TDs is so much better than anything Bryce put out there statistically today.

It also means you're giving more credit to the "3 TDs of 30+ yards" than Mahomes throwing for 25% more yards and an extra TD, which is something else I'd disagree on, if you need to break down how long a TD pass was to give reasoning as to why lesser stats were actually better than someone else's, then I think you're hurting your own argument.

And yes, I know I've been a very vocal anti Bryce guy, but this has NOTHING to do with that.  I just view this as an award that is purely statistically based, and if anything, could (or maybe should) be done blind and only looking at box score output without knowing players or game outcomes.  And in that view, I don't see how Bryce had a game worthy of being nominated for the award this week, that there were at least 6 better purely statistical performances, that's all.

QBs win MVP (year, month, week, whatever timeframe you want) all the time where it 100% should go to a RB, WR, CB, DE, etc. QBs with a hot week will always be discussed in these type of meaningless awards. You are seriously overanalyzing this. 

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

Again, as I've noted in my other posts in this thread, we're not talking about the actual MVP award, we're talking about an award who's purpose is to award great statistical performances.

And beyond that, you used a terrible example to try and support Bryce here.

No, he doesn't have a 300 yard game, but he's also currently leading the league in passing yards (yes, he'll fall a couple spots while on by this week, but he's still currently 4th in the league in YPG), while Bryce is currently 19th.

Bryce just threw for 206 yards, his 3rd most yards in a game this year.

Drake has only thrown for less than 206 yards one time all year.  Against us, in a game they won by 29 points and he went 14/17 for 203 with 2 TDs and another rushing TD on top. 

Drake also only has 3 games this season having thrown less than 259 yards.

Bryce has 5 career games over 259 yards passing.

I literally said nothing about Bryce Young and your original post said nothing about Bryce Young. My statement was just a reply to your original comment. I'm not supporting any individual player, I'm stating that it isn't 2019, teams majority run base nickel (imagine that in 2005), and 206 yards is not an underachieving performance as insinuated. Not just for Bryce, for any QB in the NFL. 

2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

206 yards passing gets nominated for this now?  What are we even doing here?!?!

It isnt 2019 anymore. Drake Maybe is the MVP favorite and hasn’t even thrown for 300 yards in a game. 

13 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Completely agree. We still waiting on that Cam esq game where he lights it up and we Completely stomp the other team for 4 quarters. But that may never be the case,  you still only get good play from him when you have a run game to carry the load.

Look how much we ran on 3rd down. Who does that if they know they have a franchise QB? Thats crazy lol 

He has those every time we play the falcons lol. It’s either 5 TDs or 400+ passing yards. 

2 hours ago, PantherChris said:

Dont go that far.... upsets over the  Packers and Rams dont make them legit.  This team needs everything to go right to win.

that isn’t what happened today 

Just now, amcoolio said:

Didn't outplay but he outclutched both Stafford and Dak in the 4th quarter. Insane.

Bryce has a ways to go, but he is undeniably clutch

Bryce absolutely outplayed Stafford. 10 ypa at 75% and 3 tds

Need the cardinals to do the damn thing 

Dave Canales is a beast, don’t at me if you believe otherwise 

I just busted in my pants 

Just now, JawnyBlaze said:

This game has been Bryce’s career in a game. Terrible plays, carried by defense and run game and the occasional really good play but still way more bad plays. 

More good than bad today. That’s all we need to win. 

That’s 3 30+ yard TDs for Bryce

They don’t but it’s fine. Get to the bye and get healthy. Beat saints and bucs twice. 

The only question now is what to Dave and Dan do? Bring in a Winston type and draft a guy? Move up in the draft for immediate starter? Push it off another year and look QB in 2027? 

2 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Then 1 and done in the playoffs. Canales ain’t out coaching anybody. 

Says who? You? Being .500 this year is all I need to know about if Canales can coach or not 

2 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Rhetorical question: Does anybody see Canales being significantly more successful even with a better QB? I mean, they’ll win a few more games here and there, but he will never be able to out coach any of the better organizations. Shanny knew everything that was coming and how to play it. 

“A few more games” has us 9-3 instead of 6-6 

28 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

About that… lol

They traded away their #1 for next year.

One of the worst teams, no first, bad HC, no QB, backup QB taking up a huge chunk of salary cap. Would hate to be them 

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

This is just factually not true. It’s gaslighting.  He has been one of the most unproductive QBs in the NFL deep …..and he played at Bama.  Lobbying balls to open WRs. 

Bryce Young completed 2 deep balls on Sunday…against a bad Atlanta team and a handful of folks are acting like that erases reality.  Despite living through this glitch in the matrix before. 

Atlanta is statistically the best pass D in the NFL 

18 minutes ago, strato said:

I’d have to put it this way. Which one has more to overcome? Bryce overcoming Canales’ limitations, or Canales overcoming Bryce’s? 
My opinion says the latter is most likely. 

Yes probably. I think Canales could be really good with “his guy” 

7 minutes ago, Packersfan said:

You referring to our game lol?

Yes sir 

This board tells me BY9 is the worst QB in the NFL, biggest bust of all time, and there are multiple backups out there better than him. If that’s true Canales has us with a winning record and in playoff contention mid November. Yes he absolutely is our coach. 

29 minutes ago, Packersfan said:

We didn’t play well at all. We actually got dominated on the stat sheet.

Feels familiar…. You would know lol

28 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

On another note. Chuba looked faster today.

That's another thing, we used the Rico/Chuba split perfectly today 

1 minute ago, hepcat said:

Oh I didn’t see this changed. I’d still take the ball all things equal, putting pressure on your defense still seems like the riskier of the two options 

You want to know exactly what you need. Completely changes how you play a crucial 4th down

8 minutes ago, hepcat said:

No it’s not. The risk is the highest letting the other team get the ball first. They can still score a TD and end the game so it’s not all things equal. If they thought the other offense sucks and their defense can handle it, then it makes no difference if they start with the ball or not. You still take the ball. 

That’s not how OT works anymore. TD doesn’t end it.