Proudiddy

I’m telling yall. If we had an actual QB you would be surprised at how good XL would look. Bryce limits their touches in so many ways, especially in the fact that he can’t get it to them where they need it and also because defense can take away more opportunities because of how aggressive they play us because there is no threat of a downfield pass.

I keep saying it, but this offense would look like damn near Greatest Show on Turf if they handed the keys to Andy.

I know, we’ve talked about it already, but that was mostly before the start of the season, before Bryce came out and Bryce’d it up. I get it. The NFL as a collective doesn’t like guys like Deion and Shedeur. They don’t like self-assured, confident young… errr… men. And okay, we get it. They sent a message by dropping Shedeur to the 5th. But throughout preseason and training camp, Dillon Gabriel did not look like a backup NFL QB, let alone a starter, and yet, Cleveland kept him above Shedeur on the depth chart. Shedeur outperformed every QB on their roster by almost every measure and still sits 3rd in their depth chart. Then today, they announce they have benched Joe Flacco, will start Gabriel, and leave Shedeur as the 3rd stringer. It isn’t unprecedented. Again, the Cowboys traded for Joe Milton after one season as a late round pick from the previous draft. Considering the incompatibility of the fit for Shedeur and Cleveland and our, what should now be obvious to any and everyone involved, desperate need to add talent at the QB position… why not do both sides a solid?

I really, really think Dave is being forced to play Bryce. He yanked him way earlier last season for this exact same level of play. I also think the 3rd down run calls were making a point bc he has to play him.

I was thinking about the LB from Penn St we drafted a few years ago, I think under Rhule with some of these posts. And boy, I thought, Penn St? LB? Crazy high RAS? This dude is gonna be a problem. And he was straight trash.

Yeah, it’s mind blowing. Don’t get me wrong, the combine is fun. It’s cool to see guys put up these crazy, superhuman numbers, but honestly, the tape doesn’t lie. The times where the combine measurements meets the on-field production, that’s rare, and those guys are guaranteed stars. In my observations over the years, it seems there are a lot more guys who don’t measure the best or well at all, but they’re just damn good at football. NGL, it’s why I’m high in Scourton and Princely, bc they don’t have the craziest athletic measurements, but when you watch them, they have those innate football movements, and they look faster and stronger than combine measurements would indicate. ATP in my life, like I said, if I have to choose between on-field appearance and production versus crazy raw athletic scores with potential, give me the football player every time. Hopefully Dan has learned this now.

TBH, I was a bit surprised before I saw the article that no one took a chance on him even for the PS, simply because of his physical tools. I think we had him playing gunner at one point. He has edge rusher size and runs a 4.3. So yes, the fact he was in our roster for multiple seasons, gets cut, and doesn’t even get a PS invite elsewhere tells us all we need to know. Times have never been worse as a Panthers fan.

Wow. Reading about DJ’s release got me to thinking and I was like, “I wonder where Barno is now?” because I always liked his potential. Welp… he’s nowhere, and will remain nowhere after this. https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/crime/amare-barno-former-nfl-player-arrested-domestic-violence-charlotte/275-74e438ed-6527-4c02-b547-3d325c54895b

I haven’t been to the official site in so long, oh my God… they actually posted that??? WE ARE fuging DOOMED!!!

We also waived Dalevon (sp?) Campbell.

According to PFF, fwiw, apparently Zavala had a ZERO pass block grade Sunday.

*Bryce Young throws hospital ball to Renfrow, who gets mollywhopped by DB* “whhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! Hunter RenFROW! How doooooouuuuuuu yoooouuuuu dOoOoOoOoOoOo????”

They are gonna beat us by 30.

I’m still trying to figure out… bc when we signed him and I read he made a 59 yarder, I thought for sure he had a solid leg. But that attempt against the Pats and that 50-some-yarder in the preseason that barely died over the cross bar, I just don’t know. I’ve never known a kicker to take something off their kicks to compensate for more accuracy on long attempts. I’ve also never heard of kickers who up the arc/trajectory on long kicks. They typically drive the ball with a lower trajectory, which equals more power and velocity. So I’m not understanding how you kick a 59 yarder and then struggle with the distance of 54? unless the wind was really at his back, idk what to make of it?

Doesn’t matter. When you have a QB who struggles to get the ball to his receivers, we could have Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, and T.O. out there and Bryce still gonna finish with <200 yards and a 55% completion pct.

Damn straight on all of that.

No disrespect to you, but this is exactly the point. Then maybe you don’t trade up and draft this guy #1 and then give him three years to further run your franchise into the ground simply because you have an affinity for him as a person? You don’t draft QBs that need to be “carried” by their team in the first round, and you definitely don’t draft them #1 overall. And you definitely should cut your losses when you realize that’s what they are. and slow or not, Bryce has missed or poorly placed countless deep throws this year when the receiver beat their coverage. He did it again Sunday. You don’t have to be a burner to get open downfield. But again, all this pressure is placed on everyone else to be flawless because their QB is ass. What’s easier? Having a horrible QB and acquiring 10 above average players to surround him with? Or finding even an above average QB who can make the 10 guys around him, most of whom might be average, better than they actually are? That’s why I’ve never understood this strategy the team took by drafting him in the first place. The amount of resources and assets it takes to accommodate him is unreal.

I was just thinking when someone posted the clip of angry Tepper after the game yesterday, and I thought to myself, “I wonder if Dave has to attend the meetings Reich used to really talk glowingly about?” this picture answers that.

I’m half joking when I say someone from the huddle could step out there and do what he does, but I’m not. Because what he does is exactly what I expect from someone with little to no experience trying to make things happen. The way even when he tries to avoid mistakes, he seems to find them. Watching him try to run away from a defender twice his size and still get hawked down, then him try to do the smart thing and tuck the ball away, only for the said defender to punch the ball out with ease. Watching him scramble out of the pocket, get squared up by a defender, one on one, and then he tries to juke one way. No, the other way. No maybe I should’ve went the first way. Then trip over himself and fall forward while fumbling. The Jessie Bates game - those picks he threw? You see most QBs might make a throw like that a couple times a season. He has done it 2 or 3 times a game, multiple games in his career. He did it twice against Jacksonville this season. It all looks like someone who is new to this. It looks like someone who has no idea what they’re doing and are in way over their head.

I now dub Bryce, Turnover Fred.

That late pass to Tet yesterday where he beat his man… my God, I can only imagine how frustrating that is. As a receiver you only get a couple of those a game, at most - beating your man deep, and the QB doesn’t even give you a fuging chance to make a fuging play on the ball. It’s not even close. It fuging sucks.

And again, I just don’t think people realize how much his limitations impact the game. Again, watch that second play from scrimmage. The DBs are literally shadowing every receiver UNDERNEATH. They are mirroring their routes underneath, playing super aggressive because they only have to cover about a 10 yard box downfield stretching the width of the field. Do people understand how much more aggressive defenses can be and are when that is the case? This is insane.

I just can’t see any team turning him into anything. He literally can’t throw downfield. Back in the 80s or 90s, MAYBE, because west coast offenses used the short pass to supplement the run game, but that has evolved to where every QB needs to be able to throw it deep. Even in games we have won where we minimized Bryce’s impact by running the ball, it still always feels like he’s dangerously close to fuging it up with a fumble, stumble or pick. I just don’t see how that works anywhere.

Dave looked pretty damn competent in his role wherever he’s been when his QB is physically capable of playing the position. Now, to be fair, being a HC is different, but I digress… Can Coen’s QB throw the ball further than 15 yards downfield? can Baker? Can Bryce? one of these things is not like the others.

I literally stopped on the second play after watching the entire Pats secondary just run underneath all of the receivers BECAUSE THEY ARE DARING HIM TO fuging THROW OVER THE TOP AND HE CANT. and this douchenozzle says, “and so yeah, you can see right there the panthers want to keep it short and sweet” to excuse it. No, dickhead, we don’t, we don’t have a fuging choice.