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The Ravens are a hell of a organization, and were especially under Newsome. That being said, I still believe in Fitterer and would like to see what he does free of Rhule's dumbass. So I would be hopeful.

Don't get me wrong, drafting is THE WAY. If you hit on a rookie QB, there's no better way to build a team for cap and assets. And rarely ever do real franchise QBs become available in the league. But I agree, I would definitely entertain the idea for a guy like Lamar. It more likely than not would be worth it. Love some of the guys we have picked like Horn and Ickey, but I think it's a lot easier to find guys to plug in at those spots than a franchise QB. And they're doing a good job of supporting my theory that even elite players that aren't QBs just don't make that much of a difference without the actual QB in place... but obviously, as we know, coaching also plays a big part in team success.

That's scary about your dad. Hope he's doing well. I read a statistic a couple months back that they've found early follow-up studies have shown some ridiculous increase in cardiac issues/events in the first year after covid.

Having a premiere QB also helps fill those holes even with fewer assets, as more players will take less to come play with an elite QB. It's why I dont get all distraught over the idea of the trading picks for a guy like Lamar. And it's why I've always argued, if you can, you have to figure out QB first, because it makes all those surrounding pieces so much easier to fix versus having the supporting cast in place and needing to find a franchise QB. All the supporting cast can be A-1, but if you don't have a legit QB it's not going to matter (see: us since Cam's shoulder injury).

That was a really low pass lol

I'm just saying, if we were willing to trade what was rumored for Watson, I don't see why we wouldn't offer the same for Lamar. And imo, I actually think for some reason, Lamar would actually command less than Watson in the trade market. I'm OK with the lack of playoff success because I think a lot of it has to do with their team construction. All that being said, I would much rather keep swinging at college guys until we hit, but considering we'll likely be in middle-first-round purgatory for the foreseeable future, we likely won't be getting our pick but rather what's left (See Matt Corral). But, I admittedly am a fan of Lamar as a player, which is also what makes the idea of acquiring him exciting.

Yeah, hard to get 250 and TDs when you struggle to even get the ball beyond the LOS.

Bradberry is having a good year, and I suspect it's going to stay that way with how Slay has been playing opposite him.

Man, Josh Allen is Cam-lite. It hurts to watch. Thanks Rivera, Gettleman, and Hurney!

Yikes. I love me some Mike Tomlin, but I think that streak of winning seasons comes to an end this year.

Statistically, I'm pretty sure without looking that Trubisky's stats look more impressive from college... but it was the eye test. To me, when a play needed to be made, more often than not Marquise made it. You could see his leadership and I trusted his decision-making when it mattered. With Mitch, those aspects were always red flags for me and it was why I never believed in him. The stats to me looked labored and manufactured - more a result of the system than a guy who is a processing prodigy. When we needed a big throw or a smart play, it seems like he would always fold in those circumstances, so I just never believed the hype. I always thought the stats were fairly empty... his pro career seems to bear that out.

Been saying it since college. As a Heel alum, I have a reason to root for my guys, but I just never saw whatever the scouts apparently saw in Trubisky. I still maintain, Marquise Williams was leaps and bounds better than Trubisky as a QB, and he didn't even crack a 53 man in the NFL. The fact Trubisky somehow fooled the entire NFL into believing he should be the top QB selected in a draft, no matter the year, is absolutely astonishing. He owes his agent a TON of money.

From watching a lot of Baker in college and with the Browns, I was convinced that he could be the answer and that years like 2021 were an aberration, not the norm. Through 3 games so far, I'm actually starting to believe the inverse... 2020 was likely the aberration. Don't get me wrong, the coaching here has and will make any QB that comes through here look 1000x worse than they actually are, and that will continue until Rhule is gone... but even that considered, I just no longer think Baker is going to be who we hoped he would be. I have seen enough. And idc, if Lamar becomes a FA he is 100% worth whatever he wants... but the Ravens would be absolutely stupid to not franchise him, so that won't happen. Weirdly enough though, I think he would net less value in a trade than Watson did. So, if he becomes available, if we threw what we did at Watson, I don't see how we wouldn't be all in on Lamar.

Idgaf. Throw everything and the kitchen sink at Lamar. fug the Ravens. I dint understand st all wtf they're trying to accomplish? You take Lamar off that team and they might, MIGHT eek out 7 wins, and that's only because Huntley is possibly the best backup in the league.

Idk, I guess I have just gotten used to getting the misery out of the way early so you can move onto coping quicker. Creatures of habit, and all that...

Glad you're doing well now, buddy. Continued health!

I stand slightly corrected. Peon knows his poo... see below. I think I'll edit that first post, too, to avoid spreading any misinformation.

Wow... I'm an idiot. Typed stroke and completely disregarded clots are the cause of stroke lol. I just remembered reading that although it can be dangerous, that it seemed it was often treated conservatively and a lot of people just lived with it, and I was a bit shocked by that. Thank you for the very informative post!

(edited out misinformation) ...but when I read up on it some time back, I was actually surprised with how conservatively it is often treated.

I was just thinking... we may have gotten bumped because of Dallas/WSH?

Same. I said it in the other thread yesterday, I believe, but this has all the makings of a loss for us. Huge streak/established pattern on the line, existing possible vendetta/revenge between Kingsbury v Rhule and Baker, etc., typically, when those things are in place and well-established, we lose. Oh, and the coaching staff still sucks.

Also, I read yall talking about the 4pm games and automatically assumed you meant next week... God, I hate 4 pm games. This sucks.

The endzones/field are absolutely beautiful for Sam... wish we had a better staff/team to do them justice today.

I remember a friend and I went for $5 each in the 06-07 season, I believe. We played Minnesota when KG was still there. You could've heard a fart in the upper deck from the floor level it was so empty. My friend and I attempted to move down into the lower bowl, figuring we would be doing them a favor by doing our part and making the arena look fuller... and for the first, last, and only time in my life of attending games, the ushers sat at the tunnels at each section and literally stopped us and told us to go back to our seats. I was in complete disbelief. It also greatly changed my opinion of Robert Johnson. I was legit pissed... been to a good amount of games in my life across various sports and never once experienced that before or since - generally, if the arena/stadium is empty, especially the lower area, you can move down. It was the craziest thing I ever experienced and again, made me see Robert Johnson as a money hungry asshole. And this was also back during the C-Set network disaster where it was the only place you could get games but no region outside of Charlotte had it, I believe. So on top of that fiasco, you treat the fans that actually buy tickets like poo when they come to the arena. Anyway, my friend ended up getting drunk and yelling, "Knibb High Football rules!!!" for the rest of the game.