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Imagine a world where a coach would bench Cam Newton for Sam Darnold. Well, in three weeks, you won't have to imagine it. Dude is a fuging clown.

Was just going to post something about this... The troubling thing to me is the offense still just feels so herky jerky... the rhythm still isn't there, and some of it has to do with the turnovers which are jarring. When Cam threw that pick yesterday, my jaw just dropped, because again, as I've been saying- this offense is predicated on timing and anticipation. You can tell a lot of the throws are plays they design with the intent of getting one specific route open. When Cam threw that, they expected the trail route to be WIDE open. And 99% of the time, it would be... And if you listen to Rhule's explanation of what happened, that was exactly what they were thinking. But then he said, the defense was "mugged" up on the line and usually they're blitzing everyone there, but sometimes they drop a DL who can't usually make that play. But he said they dropped a "rat" off the backside and he rotated all the way over and picked it off. His description made it sound like that was something they didn't expect at all, but then he blamed Cam and said despite all of that he had to know "what was in front of him" when he threw the ball. So many if our picks are like that. Now, some of the picks Sam threw weren't even close to the receivers so we have no idea what he was looking at, but some were of the same variety I'm talking about - trying to throw a comeback route before they hit their break anticipating it will be open, only for the DB to already know what we were running and jump the route. All of Cam's picks have been of that variety thus far. Every single one of them, he is anticipating a route to come open based off of the route combination versus the look the defense is giving them pre-snap. So he throws it when it should come open - and every time the defense has ran the route for the receiver and beat him to his own spot. People hate Vilma, and he's not my favorite either - but as he said yesterday, there isn't an issue of arm strength or getting the passes there, this is strictly scheme related and being comfortable with what you're seeing and doing. And its not coincidence that none of our QBs have been comfortable in what they've been asked to do. 2 of the 3 who have played for other teams and staffs have had career worst days under this staff. Their scheme is remedial and easily predictable, and we were sliding by before because they hadn't really seen enough to know tendencies and such, but now they have almost 2 years of film on it and they do. That pick yesterday, they knew exactly where we wanted to throw it based off of tendencies and stats, and they rotated a defender over there and we never saw it. The OCs don't anticipate or adjust, and the opposing DCs do. They know whats coming before we run it. Plain and simple.

I honestly think Rhule would come off just as bad if he had the resume that Meyer has. Rhule already has an air of arrogance to him just based off what he accomplished in college, but he didn't win championships, Meyer did which is why u think he is so brazen with his... I think Rhule is very much the same, but as Scot said, he does a better job with the public-facing part of the job. Meyer is reckless because he feels he can be. Rhule is just as arrogant, but less sure he can display it like Meyer does... I see it in how Rhule has talked about and dealt with players and coaches. He just fired a guy and then spent the whole presser blowing smoke up our asses about how great he was. It's not just coach speak, it signals his word means very little and he doesn't have a problem using them to get what he wants. And honestly, I keep going back to the story that I had forgot about until we played the Giants this year, where he sold himself to Tepper with that aforementioned gift of gab, got offered the job, then took our offer and had the audacity to go to NYG with it and told them if they match it he would pick them over us. Dude is a complete narcissistic, ingenuine, amoral asshole.

Yup. Same.

I dont know who the final word on personnel is, although we've heard it is Rhule and certain moves like Sam and Henderson are directly tied to him having a previous experience with them - that being said, some moves were made simply because of the FO and the relationships they had (trades with BUF AND NE, as well as all draft trades) with other teams and have nothing to do with Rhule aside from just signing off on it. That being said, imo, it doesn't matter who is making the personnel decisions because the personnel is not the problem. The OL blows and MLB leaves a bit to be desired, but outside of those positions, this teams STACKED with talent. There are a lot of other teams that are winning with a lot less. Rhule shouldn't lose his job because of talent. The talent is there. He should lose his job because he doesn't know how to use it. If he is the overlord on all personnel moves, it really doest matter if he loses that authority because our problem is strictly how it is used on the field.

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/panthers-bad-loss-falcons-cam-newton-quarterback-rotation-pj-walker-01fpr60g98w4 We made it, ma!

My guess is both, but PJ was visibly demonstrative and upset on the last drive, pointing to his helmet and waving to the sideline to get the play in. This staff sucks and is constantly unprepared.

Yeah, Fitterer is fine. I dont think anyone would disagree with the fact that this team has more than enough talent to be a playoff team. He gave Rhule the pieces he asked for and said he needed, and Rhule poo the bed.

I've been thinking more and more about that the last few weeks, too. I definitely think health had something to do with it, but the fact he joined the staff and then left after one season, but still was coming back - even sitting in the cheap seats with fans, has really made me think he saw what was coming and wanted out because he knew it was gonna get ugly.

Softer than wet charmin.

Maybe, but the decision to even go for it right there is what this entire debate hinged on, regardless of what Erving did or whether he should be out there. But honestly, who cares, man? The defense got pummeled into submission anyway.

Outcoached every time it fuging matters.

Erving being out there in the first place IS the staff's fault.

Yup, typically I understand but may not always agree with waiting until the end of the season, but making the move now is the only thing that makes sense for the reasons you stated. And this team is just dead in the water. It's clear they have tuned him out and we're only hurting ourselves by keeping him around.

And now you just showed them your formation and presnap design for your best 2 pt conversion play and didn't even get it off. This staff is such a fuging joke.

Rhule must be resigning in his presser after the game. This makes no fuging sense.

Cam is at least giving our guys a chance. PJ can't even see where tf he is throwing it because they are in the backfield in his face as soon as its snapped. Any chance we had to win was with Cam, and Cam only. Rhule punted away any chance to win by putting PJ in there. I guess he wants to be fired at this point.

What a fuging trainwreck. Yeah Matt, PJ is a great change of pace. He is going to get himself or someone else killed.

And look at this poo???? Now PJ is back in there??? Why??? What did Cam do wrong on that doomed ass last drive? I fuging hate Matt Rhule man.

Thats my hope too, because if they know we have to throw we'll be lucky to not end the game with 8 picks, and it has absolutely nothing to do with Cam. This remedial ass offense should be banned in all 50 states.

I honestly don't even want to see us with the ball again. When we're forced to throw and teams know we have to throw, we are completely hopeless. Expect another pick because the DBs are going to run the routes for our receivers.

They also called a throw to the flat at the LOS on 3rd and 5 that was completely covered.

Cam has absolutely no chance. This is so hard to watch. Get these college ass hacks out of my fuging state.

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fug you, Matt Ryan