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Injuries aside, not only was CMC a receiver threat he also played with a much MUCH worse oline than Hubbard. I’d be surprised if last year wasn’t Hubbard’s peak.

Works for me. Better than spending all the cap on LBs, TEs and RBs.

Man the panthers really hate speedy guys with hands who can run routes and stretch the field. Their obsession with big slow receiver ‘jump up specialists’ is why they haven’t had more than one receiver consistently  worth a damn in their entire history, and he was an accident.

Really don’t like the pick. Looks like opposing defenses will continue to defend 10-15 yards and succeed.

I like this, every time we are dubbed to win the preseason it gets worse. Also there isn’t really much room for things to get worse…don’t see it happening.
 

Like the past several years averages like 4 wins or so? So we are talking getting worse like 3 wins instead of 4? What a catastrophe lol

Friendly reminder during FA season that for the past seven years this is slightly arguably the worst team in the NFL. Generally, bad teams overpay for good players.

There is literally zero reason for prime/young athlete to play for the Panthers outside of money.
 

Complaining about contracts is nonsense, just be happy a competitive athlete loves money more than winning. It’s our only chance.

that is all

On 2/10/2025 at 8:43 PM, raleigh-panther said:

I didn’t hear  the clip

…but is it really so out of context to say a team that had the number 1 pick was a room full of losers…given that they didn’t trade up

I mean as Parcells said ‘you are what your record says you are ‘

…If the team didn’t trade up and they had the number one pick well…ergo they collectively aren’t winners

extenuating circumstances of course but the truth is via the record, losers 

Disagree with this. People should remember JR fuged this team hard that year as a business first over winning owner, he was preparing for the lockout, signed no FAs, no help, and extended no one. This team was severely crippled….for a lockout that never happened. 

But a lot of those players weren’t losers or didn’t know to prepare by any means. Cam and smitty are both beast, competitive players and both are also divas and self centered. We know this more so about smitty and I’d be willing to bet there is a lot about Cam too we just don’t know.
 

Should be the next goal after the dline imo.

If another teams offers even close to what Surtain got, we should let him go. That is crippling money for a possible player on the historically worst defense in history.

That said, he is elite if he’s not hurt and I would love to keep him around so I think a fair deal is to be had. Hopefully his agent isn’t unrealistic given his injuries.

If the Panthers can’t make a deal I hope they have learned to trade him for value at least and not do something stupid…especially if he doesn’t want to sign here long term.

I don’t really care. Let Canales do whatever he wants so success…or lack thereof is of his doing. Yes the defense is historically putrid but you gotta let the HC HC.

On 1/2/2025 at 8:25 AM, DeAngelo Beason said:

I don't think he is nearly as bad as people in this board like to act.  You pick up the option without question.

People play way too much Madden. Even middle of the road LT, and really offensive lineman in general (if you don’t believe he is long term LT) is not easy to find and not cheap. Letting him go would be monumentally stupid. And so it might happen.

I’ve always argued for a better draft pick and explore what you have on the team in poo time when the season is already lost vs a win.

However seeing this poo franchise draft like ass and be completely inept for 7 years at this point I will take a win if only to feel a brief moment of relief from misery.

We are the new Browns…take every crumb you get, the future is already always bleak with Tepper at the helm.

13 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Drop dem deep fried pigskins in oil

 

That's your definition of Christmas cheer?

 

Yeah pray for me bro. This is not the Christmas I grew up celebrating.

Have you considered therapy?

18 minutes ago, Mage said:

Yeah, lets just ruin all the goodwill we've built with the players and fans over the last month by deciding to sit arguably our best non-offensive lineman.

We could at least not run him into the ground. 25+ carries a game is a bit much.

Maybe we should at least wait for a .500 season. Hard to give props to things everyone else already knew.

Might be unpopular but id sit his ass…our only rb worth a poo and things seem to be looking good for next season especially with some high picks given they don’t f it up. I’d hate to see this offense without Hubbard. At least don’t run him in the ground for nothing, especially after $

3 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

Cam also used to own the stat of throwing into the tightest coverage. We can’t seem to synch WRs in their prime with a QB in their prime. 

Or a decent oline….

Or a good defense…

Or the running game…

Or a solid kicker…

it’s just been a cluster fug syncing due to very poor drafting

the wr position has been a problem for a while now, hell it might be the worst position ever. Have we had a true 1 outside of smitty in almost 30 years?

9 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Some teams have bad years, some organizations have a bad existences.  The later example are the ones I think Prime was referring to, the Browns and Jets of the League.  Seven years down a spiraling toilet flush, we are trying our best to joint the misery. 

Put this way, in 2026 if we are picking #1...again, does the Manning family block Arch from coming to Carolina?  If anyone says yes, then you know Prime has to feel the same way about his guys coming here.

 

Um….the Jets have almost an identical history to the Panthers. In fact no other team comes close, except maybe the Jaguars.

The main difference is they lose the championship game to go to a second SB while the Panthers won’t but then lost the Super Bowl…

But W/L are closer than any other franchise etc. 

If we want to talk king of the shitpile since 1995, I’d look at Lions or Browns or Raiders but the Panthers are so close to them in a lot of ways with the track record of the past six years you’d really be arguing semantics at that point all things considered.

I would consider the Panthers to have a near bad existence headed to bad existence. It’s just comical franchises mentioned awful are literally the closest team comparatively speaking to the Panthers lol

Some of you really think this team was better than it actually was…never back to back winning seasons, one of the worst W/L teams since 1995 (bottom 5 I believe), …all due the Tepper effect. We suck so bad we remember slightly below average as glory days lol

1 hour ago, outlaw4 said:

We seemingly couldn't figure out how to use Chinn here. 

We tried keeping Luvu but he chose Washington over us.

 

They both left due to ineptness, correct.

3 minutes ago, countryboi said:

I don’t know if I have heard of a team doing this in season before bet there is a landscaping reason why or why not. 

There isn’t. It’s about $.

As we can see it’s easily doable. Mid season is probably just a bonus to keep a nice field.

With today’s technology even the harshest conditions can have grass with proper maintenance. But it isn’t cheap. It does cost money.

Packers have a hybrid with real grass kept up with heat and lighting…even the new Buffalo stadium will have grass.

Maintenance costs along with other uses and turf is millions cheaper. It is literally all about money.

On 10/29/2024 at 11:47 AM, PNW_PantherMan said:

Maxx Crosby after we get him in the package for Shedeur.

Fun fact we could’ve had Crosby instead of…Will Grier. But hometown hero and all.

Another fun fact, Zod was adamantly against it. Lol

On 10/28/2024 at 9:05 AM, Mr. Scot said:

 

 

lol I mean I don’t blame him…Tepper’s Panthers are a perfect opportunity to try out some wonky plays and get some good practice should they really be warranted. I fully support it. If it was us dominating and doing it I’d be delighted.

How about stop being a pathetic team?

Been a fan forever and this is the first year I have not gone out of my way to watch the games live. I think I’ve only seen one live this season. I’ll go back and watch games when I’m bored.

Compared to years prior where I would make a day of it, get beer , cook some good food, make sure I had work off no other arrangements….and look forward to Sundays.

It’s really just a waste of time, a big change needs to happen to this franchise (Tepper selling) for anything to happen. The culture has to be god awful in that stadium and no high picks or big trades are going to change that. Tepper ruins it all.

The Patriots are awful…almost as bad as the Panthers. But their future is bright, Maye has shown flashes. He just needs some pieces and they’re going to get the draft picks to do just that. 

Meanwhile the Panthers has an owner that has zero clue and will continue to have poo drafts and good personnel who don’t want to come here.

This organization is so inept I honestly don’t think high picks will even matter. Just like the Browns for the past two decades.

Tepper doesn’t care about winning, he cares about being told he was right.

And he’ll fail as long as it takes or just fail completely if it never happens.

That’s a huge distinction that I don’t think fans understand. This is a toy for him, one that pays him at that. It’s just money.

And since he is clearly incapable, this franchise won’t be a winner until he is gone.

He’s been awful. Not sure why the cope. Yea his team sucks. But he sucks strictly looking at playcalling.

He’s young though and not stuck in his ways. He may get better. May. But the miscommunications and crap playcalling  are bottom of the league for sure.