PNW_PantherMan

Just now, Waldo said:

Hey when you get a ring you are allowed to let it go...Well times that by 3.

Its the Shaq offseason program.  Get fat and do nothing until the season starts.  Worked for him.

10 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

This is going well.

Every thread either dies by falling off the front page or being locked because things got too spicy.

14 hours ago, lightsout said:

The only problem I have with it is this. Human judgements and human mistakes are what give life to sports. We all may have a more accurate game thanks to this, but I'd venture to guess we'll have a less enjoyable sport because of this.

I’d see your point if you weren’t talking about the NFL.  There’s plenty of human mistakes left to give life to the game without a chain gang.  Best believe the Chiefs are getting that PI or illegal contact call on the last drive of the game.

27 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Did you watch the roast? No charisma at all from Brady

Its like Wayne Gretzky being a coach or Michael Jordan being an owner.  The greats usually aren't great at much else.

If Bryce put on a little more muscle, that’s good.  But he survived last year even though he took a beating.  And I don’t think doing curls is going to make anyone throw a ball better.  His velocity problems stem from his poor base, due to a combination of bad protection and bad footwork.  When he lets it rip from a proper base, the velocity is there.  He just needs to throw from that base all of the time.

1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

Yep. Because the team will be stuck in mediocrity with an average QB - nevermind that would be 5 more wins in his sophomore season. Can't make this stuff up. 

People will be mad unless we win the Super Bowl 

7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

If we win 7 games there will not be a soul on here complaining about that.  If they do then they are troll accounts

Really?  I think people will be outraged that we didn’t get a higher draft pick but missed the playoffs.  There’s a lot of 7 win seasons to back this up lol.

13 minutes ago, CRA said:

Pretty sure it's just a quirky angle where his bicep is turned over...

Because when you look at his other arm in the same picture.  It's very much a standard Bryce arm. 

No he’s just put 100% of his resources into his right arm because he doesn’t throw with his left.

He’s gonna stay healthy, post a 90 overall PFF score and get a 200 million dollar contract from the Rams

I get why some want a change, but I don't think Rod is the problem.  I wish the Panthers were run as well as the Canes.

This will be the one game Burns shows up.

3 minutes ago, bandu said:

yeah for example the Green Bay & San Fransico model of drafting your young Qb 2 to 3 years prior to starting for the established vet has been a successful philosophy to follow in years past ... 

Montana...Young

Favre...Rodgers

maybe yeah just maybe

Cousins...Penix

makes sense...just saying

Its not a bad idea but they shouldn't have taken a guy that will be 28 by the time he plays.

On 5/13/2024 at 9:01 AM, NAS said:

NFL 2K - 2005 I think was the peak for me as well, never could get into Madden after that.  In fact, I stopped playing Madden in protest due to the monopoly 

I still play 2k5 from time to time on a Xbox emulator today.  Still fun.  

50 minutes ago, rayzor said:

i think we are basing far too much of bryce's assessment on a situation that didn't work out in his favor at all. it was probably the worst situation a rookie QB could have found himself in. the only i can think of who had it worse was David Carr, who had an even worse rookie season than Bryce by a significant margin statistically. 

i think most would realize that carr was probably a better QB than his record would show, but he was shell shocked in his first few years because they did nothing to try to help him out. 3 of his 5 years in houston he led the league in sacks. i don't think he would ever have been an elite QB, but had he been in a better situation he probably would have had a better and longer career.

I don't really buy into the David Carr was a good QB until he got drafted by Houston storyline.  So its kind of an apt comparison.  The reality is he was really slow to make decisions with the ball.  He didn't read the field well.  His line exacerbated the situation by being terrible, but he just wasn't very good.  When he came to Carolina, he didn't have that Sam Darnold panic and throw the ball disease.  That's what I would expect from someone who's "shell shocked".  Not being really slow at reading the field and making the right throws.

Some guys just don't have it at the NFL level.  Best of luck to Bryce but history is not on our side here.

When your starting QB is ranked outside of the top 32 and people say he’s overrated.  Just Panther things.

Some of you guys need to let it go when it comes to Simms lol.  Yeah he's wrong some of the time, but who isn't?  His analysis is pretty good.

8 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

He's exactly the guy that Tepper doesn't want as qb2/3 in training camp/preseason. Would be a nightmare for their pr to have a guy with some dog that could kill it in preseason games

Let's be honest though.  We don't really need some miracle 6-7 win season with someone like Minshew coming off the bench.  Let's just get our next QB if this doesn't work out.

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

They won't draft another QB the owner loves him lol.

They will if he’s that bad again.  Tepper gets rid of everyone eventually.

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

IMO his issues are fundamental and not personnel wise.  He is not going to overcome that in one off season

We just need to invent a new formation where Bryce stands 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage and JJ Jansen plays center.

Just now, frankw said:

True. But you still have to start somewhere if being a pro athlete is your choice of career path.

My point is not everyone is capable of having that much meat on their bones.  I bet Bryce has been lifting since high school.  I can guarantee it.  He just doesn't have the genetics of an NFL athlete.  It is what it is.

Just now, frankw said:

Say what you want about Kyler and his commitment to his craft ie playing Call of Duty or whatever. But he clearly isn't afraid of putting in time and effort in the weight room as a #1 overall draft pick. That's kind of a necessity if you want to be the guy for a franchise. Well unless you're the Carolina Panthers apparently.

You gotta win at least a little bit in the genetic lottery to be over 200 lbs at the height of a toddler and look like Kyler.

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

his scrambling ability, especially early in his career, was legendary.  The way he could get himself out of trouble and still make a play was poetic.  I dont see bryce having anything close to that type of skill set.

Wilson was a good athlete out of college, being pretty good at baseball as well.  Look at pictures of him as a rookie.  He had muscle on him.  He was just short.  But, Wilson also brought back the Fran Tarkenton style of scrambling that I don't think anyone was used to dealing with at the time.

35 minutes ago, frankw said:

Right but if it goes down that path then letting Bryce Young flame out and waste the season is only going to continue this downward skid of the culture within our locker room and create resentment amongst some of the roster.

Don’t worry we’ll put Andy in and win 3 of the last 5 games to build culture and drop down to the 5th pick.

4 minutes ago, frankw said:

People have been saying stuff like this for years. Here's one in relation to the 2018 draft when this topic was once again a source of debate.

That list is.....rough.

Real question is that list any better or worse than the overall pool of QBs drafted early vs successful ones?  The hit rate is stupid low before you narrow it down to guys that didn’t throw.

Madden stopped caring about being as realistic as possible a long time ago.  Its just about selling ultimate team stuff now.