mrcompletely11

2 minutes ago, dxpanther said:

yep that must be it!

can't fool you with logic

yes you have cracked the code, Charlotte is a one of a kind city. 

Just now, jayboogieman said:

its clear he has no clue what he is talking about

31 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Exactly.  We were widely regarded as a playoff ready team that just needed a QB.  Bryce Young dragged the team down, period.  

Vegas had us at 7 wins

2 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Here's a chart of NFL teams. If you count the NBA and MLB, it gets a lot more crowded since some of those arenas/ballparks/stadiums are a lot older.

And here's a bit more general information for you, all cities have a diverse population and a poo ton of transplants.

but but but tourism or something

1 minute ago, zacka77ack said:

and which of these cities would the Panthers be relocating to?

thats not the discussion

4 minutes ago, dxpanther said:

la - tourism

san fran - tourism and not close to center city

houston - far from center city

nyc - you mean new jersey and it's cutoff

chicago - just outside of center city not near businesses. plus tourism.

miami - not center city and tourism

tampa - in the burbs next to highway

atl - this is close to our situation but atl gets a lot of tourism

dc - not at all like us besides transplants

seattle - close but i still say they get a decent amount of tourism due to pacNW location

phoenix - might as well be in a desert.

wow you really and truly havent a clue what we are talking about here. How in the fug didnt I see that before?

Nashville

Dallas

6 minutes ago, dxpanther said:

in the location it is, yea! it's not that common. not to mention charlotte FC is using the stadium as well. 

point me to the vast number of other cities that are similar? im waiting.

la

san fran

houston

nyc

chicago

miami

tampa

atl

dc

seattle

phoenix

1 minute ago, dxpanther said:

transplant city containing a large population of fans from all over, willing to pay to see their team play in person. with the stadium strategically positioned by hundreds of restaurants and bars.

show me a similar city in that research to charlotte. you go ask those businesses in uptown if it matters.

 

im not a bot but unlike you im actually a fan of the panthers and enjoy them in my city. you can go kick it in Raleigh and watch hockey. 

by businesses you talking bars and restaurants right?  I mean we can argue the economic impact of professional sporting teams all day back and forth but aint no way Charlotte or meck county should be giving a man worth 23 billion a fuging penny of money.

1 minute ago, Bear Hands said:

So that's how he's going to see over lines lol.  

I was thinking more of a master blaster situation

4 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

No one‘s talking about the 15 year agreement that would tie the team to the city so a lot of the “he’s trying to move the team away” takes can subside

NC is one of the fastest growing states in the country.  No way in hell he even tries to bluff that he would move the team. 

11 minutes ago, dxpanther said:

yea that'll show em! take our team away and go make revenue for local businesses in another city why don't ya?! ....meanwhile i'll sit here in the fall and rewatch shows on the streaming app i paid $200 for this year. HOW DARE THEY ask for pennies on the dollar from my taxes to pay for something that improves the city i live in....

The nfl would award us an expansion 24 hours after the announcement was made.  Since we are basically an expansion team now at least we would get a new owner

6 minutes ago, Tbe said:

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article288967315.html#campaignName=charlotte_breaking_newsletter

 

Panthers want $650 million from Charlotte. In exchange they promise to stay for 20 years.

Bye

7 minutes ago, CRA said:

Didn't we essentially try that model with Matt Rhule already? 

DBO

I guess we will see if the ted lasso coaching model succeeds in the nfl.   Its great he is positive about our position as a franchise and team in general but its simply going to come down to getting bryce to play better and out scheming other coaches

On 5/30/2024 at 5:42 PM, Captain Morgan said:

The few big boards I've seen so far are not high on QBs, one didn't have the first QB on their board until 10.  I really hope by the end of the season we see 3 qbs in the top 5 or 6.

Not because I want us to draft one, but because we all know there is a good chance we'll be drafting in the top 5, possibly even #1.  Considering what we gave up to Chicago to take a flyer on a QB at #1, we could get a real haul of picks to rebuild.

And before someone says something foolish like "if we're picking first, we'll pick another QB," we're not unless a can't miss player that we just cant pass up is available.

Bryce deserves a chance with a new coach, an Oline, and some receivers that can get open.  We'll be closer to making a decision on him after next season.

If we are picking first in 2025 then something has gone tragically wrong and we are looking at 3ish wins.  And with that you can bet your ass we are getting another qb.  And yes I understand that the jags just had this happen but that is completely different

29 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Do we have any actual centers on the roster? I mean guys who actually primarily played the position in the NFL or hell, even college for that matter?

Which is why the brooks pick is still incredibly peculiar 

5 minutes ago, Martin said:

There seems to be a lot of confusion between consensus value and your own personal preference. 
 

He was a 3rd rounder among most respected analysts (Dane Brugler etc.). We drafted him in the third round. Hence it was not some kind of crazy reach. Very different from DJ Johnson last year.

I think it's the fact the we drafted another raw athletic project not necessarily where he was picked.  

2 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

There were 3 reality checks last year. 

1) The joint practice/preseason game with the Jets showed everyone the team wasn't what everyone at BOA stadium thought it was.

The Jet game/practices/hard knocks was truly the "wtf is happening" moment for the 2023 team.  Everything looked whacked but some on here just cried "preseason doesnt matter" when in fact it clearly does.

13 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Why are people so butthurt? He’s saying bet the over at 4.5 wins. Not like he’s saying bet the over at 8 or 9 wins. And he’s not the first person I’ve seen make the Jaguars comparison. Trevor Lawrence’s rookie season numbers with a complete train wreck around him were just as terrible as Bryce’s. It’s not really that crazy.

Nobody is butthurt and it's 5.5 and he is saying panthers are going to win 8 or 9 which is pretty wild all things considered.  He is just leaning into his hot take and making the radio/podcast rounds.   

13 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Is he a Huddler? 

Sounds like he got a ton of info from here

He's been making the rounds this week just parroting the usual talking points while omitting a ton of stuff

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

The politics of football rosters is well known. You just can't trade what they did for him and sit him. That can't happen.

The was guaranteed(barring injury) the instant that trade was made. No matter who we had drafted, they were the starter.

You are right but thats a crazy strategy now looking in hindsight.  Kid wasnt ready at all.  Dangerous situation all things considered and its completely ruined qbs in the past. 

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean of those three(BY, Nix, Maye) he is unquestionably the most talented. But, he is also extremely raw and very, very unpolished. Ideally, he sits in NE, they are patient and don't ruin him. That's the big problem with a relatively unpolished QB talent, it's always dangling on the precipice of disaster if the situation isn't right or the development isn't right.

Now, if he is a true superstar, throw that all out the window. Not saying development might not matter but he will be the type of guy that is self motivated and driven enough to get it done. 

I think he seems more in the former category than the latter but often the cues for those in the latter category aren't immediately obvious to the general public.

I am wondering if Tepper made the call for young to start because there aint no way he legit beat Dalton out in TC.  Just no way especially after all we saw and all we heard

30 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't really think either of those guys would move the needle much although their ceilings may be higher. I would say we are still not in a position to develop someone like Maye. He needs a ton of work and this isn't a place where he could develop.

For Nix, how would his situation be much different than similar lower ceiling rookies put in better situations recently? Is he better than Pickett or Mac Jones? Both of those guys were in far better situations and still failed.

Outside of a true HR pick, I don't think you are gonna see many rookie QB's look good given our situation.

Personally I think Maye will be the best of the bunch for a lot of reasons.  I just hope they sit him for a while and let him learn and develop.  I dont think there is ever a downside for a qb to sit and learn