mrcompletely11

Who the eff do we like that much at 3?

13 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Jones is more of a limited QB prospect and in the same mold as Teddy Bridgewater.

https://nfltraderumors.co/nfc-notes-buccaneers-falcons-panthers-20/

"Person thinks.............."

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've long thought the 49ers might be a dark horse for Deshaun Watson given that there's a long-standing relationship between Adam Peters and Nick Caserio.

That move makes too sense.  He is custom built for that offense.  The question would be what package could they present?  All of 2021, 1rst and 2nd next year? 

7 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

As I've said before, the 49ers are the only team that really makes sense to me.  That's the reason I'm hoping they trade for a QB.  I doubt the Patriots jump up all the way from #15.  Denver seems to be giving Lock another look.  I really can't see anyone else.

San Fran (and Indy for that matter) have rosters to win now.  They dont want to wait on a rookie qb to develop.  They are built for now so I think they go the vet route.  I guess in theory the Pats could move up but that is one expensive move to make and I just dont see the pats doing that.

Like I have screamed for a while now, stay at 8 and let the draft come to you.  In the astronomical event that 4 qb's go in the top 7 then the value of #8 skyrockets and trading back would be the move.

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

So if Foles goes back to the Eagles and they have Hurts, do the Eagles still draft a QB?  I think Foles knows he'd be a bridge QB and Hurts would be the heir apparent.  Drafting another young QB makes little sense, IMO.

Eagles are not drafting a qb

11 hours ago, BurnNChinn said:

Jones will most definitely be there and shouldn’t be drafted till round 2. People talking him up is ridiculous. I think Lance only playing one game this year will hurt him and he will at least be there till we pick.

FYI Todd McShay talks in length about Jones https://www.theringer.com/2021/2/12/22280617/2021-first-round-qbs-and-mahomes-stories-with-todd-mcshay-plus-russell-wilson. 

In a nutshell says Jones is everything you want in a qb.  All the intangibles, nice footwork in the pocket, has the ability to scramble for 5-7 yards if needed, incredible accuracy and can process plays quickly.  However yes he did play with like 9 first rounders and yes his arm skillset is limited beyond 25 yards.  Not that he cannot make the throws but a bunch of times this year he under threw his wr.  (sounds familiar)

Just passing this along

7 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

If we turned that 2022 1st into a 2022 2nd I might be up for it.  

True that.  I still think with our roster we could be looking at another top 10 pick next season.

1 hour ago, Jared Patterson said:

Verge, Is it still likely one of the 4 QB's is available at 8?

Yes.  The odds are strongly in our favor

3 minutes ago, Raleigh PF said:

NY and Miami are the wildcards. I don't see many scenarios in which one or both of the two teams doesn't trade back with a team in need of a QB.

The only way they wouldn't trade back is if, say, one of them completes a trade with Houston for Deshaun, figures Darnold (or Miami sticks with Tag) is worth a shot at QB and then decides to draft Sewell or Slater to help with protection. 

There is simply no scenario in which Fields or Wilson fall beyond pick #4 otherwise.

Somebody falls.  These always do. 

4 minutes ago, stirs said:

No way I would trade up for a QB in this draft.  Lawrence is about the only one that is pretty much got it all.

The rest have a lot of "ifs" about them.  No way you mortgage it all for what it would take to get someone who has the potential to bust.

I think the QB talk is just that.  Lance should be there at 8, maybe even Fields

Yep

1 minute ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Trent Williams would be pricey but possibly available. Orlando Brown Jr.  Others we’re not aware of. I’d give up next year’s second for Brown. If we can’t find a long term fix, then get a short term fix for now and try again next year. QB is more important to address than LT and takes longer to develop. If we have to wait til next year for an LT, they’re more likely to be ready day one than a QB

Orlando brown for just a second?  Good luck with that

2 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

That’s not really that bad of a deal. I’m not sold on fields but I’d be cautiously optimistic. I would expect moving up to 3 to cost more than that. Fields in the first, OG in the second, get a LT via FA or trade, LB in the fourth.  Depending on how quick Fields gets ready, we’ll be set

What lt is there I FA?  Who are you trading for and what are you giving up?  It’s imperative to build our line through the draft and stop doing quick fix solutions 

1 minute ago, cookinbrak said:

Not if we trade away our 1st rd picks.

Yep. We still have a lot of holes in our roster.   The next two drafts are going to be huge.   Keep your picks stay at 8 and catch the falling qb.  The draft may very well go down like this.  https://elitesportsny.com/2021/02/13/2021-nfl-draft-esnys-updated-3-round-mock-draft/

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hell, I think it's a steal for the Eagles. Wentz looked shot last season.

And his contract 

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There's risk there too. 

But your margin of error is lower due to more draft picks

6 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

That's not bad at all draft capital wise . They should do that if they really believe in Fields . Or Wilson if he's there .  Alot is riding on what the Jets end up doing at 2

 

Dude that’s an insane haul

3 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:

Colts offered 2 2nd for Wentz... not even a first

NFL analyst Ron Jaworski reports the Colts have offered "two second-round draft picks" for Carson Wentz.

It's the best offer the Eagles have for Wentz. The Eagles are holding out for a Matthew Stafford type deal, but that's not going to happen. Teams have been unwilling to even offer a late first-round pick for Wentz. The Wentz market has cooled in recent weeks, with Chicago reportedly losing interest. Philly is going to have to come off its asking price to trade Wentz this offseason.

That’s actually pretty fair all things considered 

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That haul would sting. If he turned out to be a franchise QB it'd be worth it. If he didn't, Rhule and Fitts probably dug their own grave.

If it happens, I hope all the "just win baby" folks look back in pleasure over celebrating that key late season victory over Rivera and the WFT.

Yep. Too risky.  Just let the draft come to you.  

Hell no.   Stay the fug at 8.  

4 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

It’s fitting into a system, it’s not rocket science 

Yeah its totally the system

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/9/6/20853124/mitchell-trubisky-chicago-bears-quarterback-throw-left

Just now, weyco2000 said:

No sir, we’re not making excuses 

lolwut?

2 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

Do you think Cam reached his potential or was held back?

Not sure what it matters here but the Panthers failed cam by not protecting. 

1 minute ago, weyco2000 said:

He has a ring

and?

Just now, weyco2000 said:

Do you think Foles is a good QB?

nope

and I define "good" by being a legit NFL starter

17 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

You’re clueless 

If you think Trubisky is a good qb then you may need to look in the mirror.  He is horrible.