mrcompletely11

5 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

So we entered the modern era in 2021?  I can assure you teams thought just as highly of the QB position 12 months ago as they do now.  I do agree with your ending sentence though, at worst the last remaining QB of the four.  My worry is it will be Fields left on the board at #8 and not Lance.

I am saying in 20 years it has never happened.  4 qbs in 10 picks.   Thats the modern era of the nfl where passing has become king.  Lance will be there along with another guy probably.  I mean teams havent even interviewed or properly evaluated these guys yet.  Its insane to think one of them will not be there at 8

3 minutes ago, ellis said:

Click bait for what lmao? It’s not like I’m redirecting people to some type of paywall LOL.

I’m just offering up some perspective. 

Based on absolutely nothing, just a poo stirrer

Just now, top dawg said:

My comment is based on human nature, plain and simple.

I think being from the Pitt organization he understands what is and what isnt a quick fix.  I think he is perfectly fine with where the franchise is and where its heading.  Especially now that marty is up north do hurney things

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I suspect that try as he might, Tepper is probably getting a little impatient. Rhule and Fit will hopefully keep things in perspective though. It's a process! This is really the second season of the rebuild. 

This comment (and his tweet) is based on absolutely nothing.  Tepper hasnt done or said anything recently to make people think he is impatient.  How many times in the past 18 months has he preached patience.

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Among all the QB hoopla from last year, the QBs in the draft went exactly where everyone (those that intently follow it) thought they would go.  No teams gave up the farm to move way up Burrow at #1 or Herbert or Tua.  People say, "BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT!" No, it really isn't, and with one extra starting QB available at the top of this draft.

Its insanity to think otherwise.  In the modern era where the QB is literally the most important position in all of sports 4 qbs have never gone in the top 10 much less the top 7 but but but this is the year it finally happens.  In reality we probably will still have a choice of 2 between the top 4.

Just now, BurnNChinn said:

Get ready we have never seen in all years of football the deals going on for qbs right now. There will be 4 gone before us period

So you are predicting that something happens that literally hasnt happened in at least 20 years (thats as far as I went back)?  Thats a great way to have a draft strategy, good luck with it.  Someone always falls.  Always. 

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

2018 season, 2019 season and 2020 season are all in the books.

2021 is year four.

Splitting hairs here but there really wasnt anything he could do in 2018 but stay with status quo.  Thats why he focused on the operations business side the first year

59 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

...or is the owner who asked Panther fans to have patience starting to lose his own?

From our friend, Ellis...

 

This is absolutely a weak attempt at click bait with nothing backing it up.  He should no better than this crap.

30 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

Dude all your posts are wrong lol there will definitely be 4 qbs gone before our pick. Jags, Jets definite, then out of Falcons, Eagles or Lions that’s one AT LEAST. So that’s three not counting all the teams behind us that want one lol. You are most definitely wrong sir, maybe you should pay attention a little more before posting.

4 qbs havent gone in the top 10 much less the top7 in 20 drafts and that is in the modern passing scoring era.  Its a rarity to have even 3 go in the top 10.  And you are crazier than hell if you think both atl and the lions are picking a qb.  Go look at the contracts for each and let me know how that works out for you.

5 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

yeah he's gone one way or another 

He can start until the bye or whenever the rookie is ready 

Also the Lions could have gotten good in a hurry with the 7 and 8 picks plus what the rams are giving them and goff.  No brainer for them. 

They could go Pewell and Slater and be locked for awhile

Didnt we already know this?

Just now, ncfan said:

Only 0% on that list is Bengals.

1. Jags- 100%

2. Jets- 95%

3. Dolphins- 0% most likely trade down

4. Falcons- 65%

5. Bengals- 0%

6. Eagles- 55% with Wentz traded

7. Lions- 50%

Dude if you keep drinking this early you will never make the super bowl.    Whatever "scouts" you are reading you probably need to stop. 

1 minute ago, ncfan said:

Its shaking where the same defensive player(s) they'd take at 4 will be around at 8-12.  They can take the same guys and still get a boatload of picks from a QB hungry team.

 

Only non QB target that may not be around when they trade down, would be Sewell.

now you are changing your argument. 

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Everything in ATL feels like they want to stay put and draft defense, or trade back and find a RB. The new GM wants to get the running game going again. Arthu Blank said he isnt closing the door on the idea of a drafting a QB... it's fair to assume he is just drumming interest for the pick for teams who ataully NEED a qb. They are just driving value. 

I'd be shocked if a first time head coach and GM want to make their mark with drafting a bench player their first year.

2 years unless they cut Ryan and take a big cap hit and why would they do that he is not the problem, the falcons couldnt stop anyone last year

Just now, ncfan said:

So your saying draft a CB?

 

4 QBs and Sewell going off by 8, that's not a good spot for us.

Unless your suggesting we draft a WR

What?  I think we are not on the same page.  I have no clue what you are talking about.  QB's moving teams has nothing to do with who is drafting ahead of us.

1. Jags - qb 100%

2. Jets - qb - slightly lower but they could roll with sd.  75%

3. Miami - I doubt they go qb here.  Less than 10%

4. Falcons -less than 10

5. Bengal - 0

6. eagles - 0%

7. Lions - 0%

Now how do qbs changing team change any of that?

Just now, MHS831 said:

Farley ain't far behind, if at all.

Yeah but surtain lays the damn wood.  Very physical

1 minute ago, ncfan said:

It has 100% to do with your post.

You said the odds of of 4 QBs going off the board before 8 seems low.

Then i showed you other QB scenarios that would be deemed just as low if now lower that have already or about to happen.   

I showed you direct comments from guys plugged into the league who are predicting massive QB shake up this year.  Which most likely throws that # of QBs going ____ out the window.

Qbs moving has nothing to do with the draft ahead of us. 

Just now, TheCasillas said:

for someone who knows very little about whats happening in that franchise, you sound so certain. For this, I disagree. Falcons will trade back before selecting a QB. If they are smart, they stay put and draft an extremly talented defensive player.

There biggest need is corner and they have their pick on two really really good ones.  I personally think surtain is freaking sick

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

If the plan involves going after after trade and that is what they are calling aggressive, it sure sounds as if they plan on losing out on multiple trades--as if the plan to be aggressive is to low ball.

I have never seen such a fervor over QBs as I have this season.   I would not be surprised if the top 4 QBs are gone by Atlanta.  Jones gone by 15.  Now, that will free up Tua, Darnold, (I doubt Ryan leaves--contract).  That is it.  So you have a Darnold, possibly a Trubiski, Tua, and maybe some other free agent like a Goff--and even these QBs are getting trade attention---but has NOBODY asked about Teddy? No-

Teddy needs to be the highest paid backup in the league next year; I see him starting some games if we bring in a young guy.

About Darnold for all of you who are saying NOPE, based on what you saw in NY.  He is 23 years old.  He has been in a crap system playing for a crappy coach.  He had little support.   Any rookie you bring in probably would have struggled in that situation.  Darnold is a year or two older than the rookies.  Finally, I said this in another post---look at Josh Allen's stats during his first few years.  Very comparable.  Think Tanneyhill.  Does this mean I want him?  Not really, but it does mean that I do not eliminate him because he has struggled for 3 years on a very bad team.  If you step back and look at stats, most successful QBs play on successful teams.  We credit the QB, but few really good QBs play on really bad teams.  You need the team.  Darnold may be a bust, but he may be in a bad situation too.

 

What could the fins get for Tua?  I throw our 2nd for him

Just now, ncfan said:

It would also be Statistically abnormal for

Stafford to go for 2 1sts and Goff (funny 99% of the people saying 4 QBs wont go in the top 7 are the ones who said no way Detroit would get a 1st for Stafford, well theh got 2 And Goff)

It's a Statistically Abnormal for the Eagle's to get a 1sts for Wentz, especially conisdering he has one of the worst contracts in the NFL.  Yet apparently they are going to get more.

 

It's a Statistically Abnormal for more than 8 QB changes across the league in 1 offseason.  And guys who are plugged into the league like Rapaport and Schefter are predicting 18 or more off what they are hearing.

 

 

That has zero to do with my post. 

1 minute ago, USC/panthers_11 said:

Not sure if you saw I mentioned I want the Panthers to draft a QB. Anyone is worth considering for the right price, however. 

I was trying to make a funny, but you absolutely are right

19 hours ago, 4Corners said:

Trubisky is a stud and would lead us to the Super Bowl within two years. 

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/9/6/20853124/mitchell-trubisky-chicago-bears-quarterback-throw-left

Just now, ncfan said:

2?

There are 3 in the top 4

You keep thinking ATL is going to pick a qb but they are not.  They are stuck with Ryan for 2 seasons and it would be insanity to let a qb sit for 2 years when there is the top corner (their biggest need) staring at you in the face.

Just now, TheCasillas said:

There are only 2 teams ahead of us that wil likely draft a QB. Considering Lance is the 4/5 best QB in the draft... im not concerned. Also, if somehow 4-5 QBs are drafted before we pick... thats a ridiculous amount of talent available for us at 8... I'd rather kick the can on a FA or Middle round pick for someone like Darnold.

Yep its win win no matter what we do just for the love of God dont trade the damn pick