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5 minutes ago, travisura said:

So we're either truly, madly, deeply in love with Pickett, or this is one hell of a smokescreen trying to convince someone to trade up to our spot.

They wouldn’t trade to our spot it would be to the jets or giants in front of us

Just now, MillionDollarCam said:

If one bad passing game against a poor opponent is why you don’t draft a QB then just flat out admit that you wouldn’t have drafted Allen either. Not to mention the fact that Willis destroyed ULM on the ground… 

You guys want some home run candidate from Alabama or Ohio State but the bottom line is school doesn’t matter. Willis has the traits that you are looking for in a franchise QB and a good coach will get him coached up on the areas that he needs to improve on. 

Allen is the anomaly.   To think otherwise is just foolish 

Just now, MillionDollarCam said:

Yeah, it was a bad loss but once again anyone who knows college football knows that Terry Bowden is turning that program around, they hung with both Louisiana and LSU at the end of the year.

So terry bowden at Monroe can completely prison rape Willis and this is the guy you want to be our franchise.   poo that makes perfect sense.   

2 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Lol take your L and move on. By your logic we would have passed on Josh Allen too.

Willis’ decision to transfer to Liberty worked just fine and Willis would have mopped that NDSU team the same way he mopped Tech.

 

Some team named ul Monroe would like a word

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

2023 QB Draft pick >> Pickett and Willis

It’s really so simple.   

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Next year's QB class is sooooooo much better, but you guys have the patience of a 3 year-old in a candy store.

We would be trading two firsts to move to 1 if stroud was in this draft.  

Just now, Panthers Rhule said:

Did you know that Pickett is also praised for throwing from different angles and being creative?

And?

Cmac on the bills would be must see tv.   Fit needs to figure out a way to get their first for him.  

32 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

If you guys want a real look at the quarterbacks you can often just search YouTube for sasy "Malik Willis vs" and find cuts of every snap by the quarterback each game. I've watched a lot of Willis the last week, and it's kind of been disappointing.

Don't get me wrong he's an amazing scrambler, runner, and has a really strong arm. However, he doesn't seem to have the field vision you need to be an NFL quarterback. He misses open options, and sometimes just doesn't see the defenders. Sometimes his accuracy reminds me of PJ Walker's bullets, but he has much better long ball accuracy which makes him intriguing.

Out of the two quarterbacks I think I would take Pickett and hope he develops into a classic pocket passer. He'll have to learn to navigate the pocket much better instead of scrambling out like he does far too often (probably the biggest knock that I've seen).

Sam Howell is also interesting, and I feel after watching so many of his games he's being underrated. 

Even his highlight throws show poor mechanics.   And this is a dude who has had a private qb coach since he was 13.   

36 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

I'd rather have Grayson McCall in 2023.

 

Both Willis and McCall play G5 ball but one is significantly better than the other. Run with Darnold for 2022, go hard after McCall in 2023. If you can't draft McCall in 2023 it's because Darnold actually turned out to be who many thought he could be.

McCalls highlight throws look eerily similar to mahomes.   His throws from different arm angles is impressive 

18 minutes ago, BlueBuck24 said:

Which is my concern. If you’re taking a QB Top 10, he better have franchise altering potential. I don’t see it with Pickett. His ceiling is Kirk Cousins-esque to me. Which, Cousins is fine, but he is what he is. 
 

I don’t really want Malik Willis either, but I’d at least accept it given his high upside and tools. 

I dont disagree

1 hour ago, BlueBuck24 said:

Taking Kenny Pickett at #6 has been my absolute worst case scenario as a fan since the final whistle blew against Tampa Bay. With the press for Armstead, and now Newton reporting we’re pursuing Duane Brown, seems like we’re determined to fix the OL in FA. Which makes a QB at 6 makes sense.

Why is it so difficult to take the anchor franchise OT for the next 5-10 years at 6?

Thats a bit dramatic.  He will be fine.  He will win 9-11 games but I fear he lacks the ability to put a team on his back when necessary

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Oh yeah I get the red flags. Hand size, average arm strength, older, one year wonder, I just saying that last year his strength was going to progressions. The one read, half field myth falls more into Willis/Howell this past year and that’s mainly because they didn’t have much of an OL to stand behind and make reads. 

Mentally I am prepared for Pickett at 6.  Last year I was mentally prepared for Jones as well.  

I enjoyed watching KP play last year.  That said I just dont know if he is an above average nfl qb.  And that is really what I want at pick 6. 

15 minutes ago, ATLpanther said:

There’s a reason that the Packers resigned Rodgers for record money. Love is a bust. I rather roll with Darnold behind a revamped OL than give even a late round pick for Love. I’m done with the knee jerk bandaid projects

Keep in mind Love has had elite coaching as well

9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I live in Knoxville and watched the UT game live. Pickett was frustrating the UT fans because he navigated the pocket so well and seemed to make the right call when needed. They put up 42 points on the road at UT (yeah they aren’t elite, but it was a SEC defense vs ACC offense). If it was 3rd down everyone knew Pickett was going to make the play. He had over 300 total yards, 3 TDs and 0 INTs. If he did this reading half of the field, then UT was stupid and allowed it. You take what the defense gives you. 

I just hope we do a deep dive to figure out his incredible jump in stats.  Was it a fluke or a true natural progression?  I dont know

1 minute ago, pantherj said:

Who does Pickett remind you of?

Carr

Lesser version of Ryan

More aggressive cousins 

Just now, pantherj said:

He reminds me exactly of Teddy except he can run really well.

Another bad take

2 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Mac Jones is more cerebral and makes his reads at a high level. Pickett is like a one read check down QB.

Look I am not a pickett fan but this couldnt be further from the truth

So we pass on Fields and Jones for Pickett?  That doesnt make much sense

4 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Exactly. All these moves are for a team thats trying to compete. You want one of those top qbs next year you better be expecting to only win 2 or 3 games because thats what it's going to take. You win more now lookimg at trading multiple picks for a rookie.

They have operated in a win now mode for the past 2 seasons and it’s netted 10 wins total.  These morons don’t know how to build a team from the ground up

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'd rather draft almost anyone at #6. If it's between Pickett and Willis, just draft Willis. Draft the guy with the talent to do something. I think Willis will likely bust, but at least he has the raw talent to work with. Pickett has a very limited ceiling. Remember Teddy when you're looking at Pickett. They're basically the same player.

Hes more aggressive then teddy.  He is probably a lower tiered version of matt ryan. 

Agree with willis I just dont see how coming into this franchise at this stage of the game is going to do anyone any favors. 

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

I wouldn’t think that everson griffin is the best resource to quote …. Considering you know his situation…..

 

but yeah kirk is a jerk

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2856289-report-redskins-players-said-kirk-cousins-was-about-his-numbers-not-winning

I mean there are other links and other examples.  Kirk is a fug head

2 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

If we get Pickett I will support him. If we get Willis I will support him. 
I was impressed with Picketts combine. I think he can be very good. The potential is there. 
You could also apply your logic to many franchise QBs including Burrow. He was nothing till that one year with LSU then he shot up to 1st overall pick. 
Many people thought he was good because of his situation. Turned out he is just a really good QB. 
I am willing to give give Pickett the benefit of the doubt.
He will be way better than Darnold so that is a mega positive. 

If I supported Teddy and Darnold you damn well better believe I will be on the pickett/willis train if it comes to that

Just now, Smithers said:

Lol the Griffin thing?  Come on now - Adam Theilan defended Kirk right after this and Everaob apologized.  I wouldn’t call one defensive teammate who was prob pissed that Cousins got his money and resulted in Griffin being cut evidence of his teammates hating him

There are other links with examples but something tells me you will never change your mind about cousins.  He is a world class douchebag and its well documented

2 minutes ago, Smithers said:

When have teammates ever said they didn’t like him?  

https://clutchpoints.com/vikings-news-kirk-cousins-newest-teammate-isnt-a-fan-of-him/