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56 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I’m honestly not as worried about trading back from 4-7. It may happen but I really do think that there’s a big drop off. 8 may end up being a good place depending on if that 4 QBs in 4 picks without Jones happens. Jones at 8 is my nightmare.

If somehow Jones goes at 3, you’ve got Chase, Sewell, Pitts and Parsons that I think are at another level from the Smith, Slater, Waddle and Surtain crew. If somehow one of the latter crew goes before 8 so much the better, but I think that because those 4 non-QBs do appear to be in another level I think that 4-7 won’t trade back.

We truly need Jones or one of the second tier to go in 3-7. If that happens we have Fields, Lance, Sewell, Pitts or Chase at 8.

The nightmare is that those 5, Wilson and Lawrence go 1-7. I think that’s highly unlikely and that we could trade up just a couple spots and still get Lance. SF/ATL sets the draft for us. With all the solid OL, including tackles in the early 2nd, it would be awesome to land a QB we love at 8.

My nightmare is chasing the QBs.

The three that have separated themselves from the pack are going 1-2-3.

I'd be happy with sitting at #8 and getting a franchise LT / matchup nightmare TE or trading down to acquire second day picks.

Corn Elder has signed for the Lions, apparently.

I just saw his dickish video taking the piss out of Chris Simms' QB list.

Lost a sub on that one, April Fools or no. 

3 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I think any move for Darnold will be made after the draft.  If we land a QB than we won't pursue Darnold.

I'm not sure about that - the Jets will surely want an instant return on him if they're trading him.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's a Draft day trade - we pick who we want / trade down in the first / second round and, if we don't get the QB we like, we pick up the phone to the Jets for Darnold in the third round.

I think he has potential, but he's in the last year of his rookie contract so he QUICKLY becomes very expensive. You only have a year to work out whether he's the guy or not. 

18 hours ago, ColumbusCounty said:

Coaching at the Senior bowl was a huge advantage (esp. In a covid year). Which is one of the reasons I'm a fan of acquiring more picks this year. 

Side note: Didn't Rivera coach the Senior Bowl one year?? I may be off but if not, I might have to go reevaluate that particular draft. 

We might be looking for an Corn Elder replacement in the later rounds or as UDFAs. I was hoping we would resign him atleast for a year. His improvement was impressive and at worst we'd have quality depth guarding the slot. 

I'd love Elder to stay, but the fact he was benched at the end of the year for Hartsfield tells you what the coaching staff think of him. 

We weren't at the point of experimenting with any other position at that point - he's gone.

So literally nobody else wanted him, huh?

19 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

I can’t get over his weird throwing motion and skinniness. I just don’t know if he could hold up at the nfl level 

As we all should have learned with Rivers - as long as it's repeatable it doesn't matter.

Fields is the one with the throwing motion that worries me. 

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's a comparison I could see.

LG and I were discussing that earlier. Fields might be about as fast as Vick but he doesn't seem quite as elusive.

Vick ran a 4.3 at his Pro Day (and was clocked at 4.2 by some).

Don't undersell his speed - he was a freak athlete. He made NFL players look like they were running in quicksand. 

1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

Big Rhule and his satchel? got front row seats

Why are the Gators fans doing the Nazi salute in that picture?

42 minutes ago, SOJA said:

Sewell/Slater for sure. 

Panthers are slowly leaking more and more that QB won't be the pick. It's either a smokescreen or they are trying to temper fan's expectatinos

 

I mean the 49ers changed the landscape of the Draft this week. 

You have to accept that unless you truly think 4/5 QBs are worth taking with the first 8 picks we're going elsewhere. 

4 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

A year isn't that long to wait. 

We'll be better next year than we were this (barring a run of catastrophic injuries).

13 minutes ago, Bostonheelfish said:

Having TE like Pitts completely changes the offense. We won’t get the opportunity to have one of the league’s best mismatches for years if we don’t grab him if he’s available. A great LT is of course a big win. But we can address LT easier in subsequent FA and the draft easier than getting a TE of Pitt’s quality in years to come.

Franchise LTs don't come available on the FA market very often.

If it's a choice between a guy we think can hold down LT for a decade and Pitts at #8, you take the LT.

If said LT is gone and so are the QBs you like, I'm comfortable taking Pitts.

Pitts and McCaffrey will give opposing LB corps (and Safeties) sleepless nights. Add in Moore's ability to dominate on the outside and that's an enviable stable of talent at the skill positions. 

13 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

The RPO isn't gimmicky. It's quite mainstream.

I'm not saying it's gimmicky - I'm saying it in conjunction with a boatload of screens and misdirection is gimmicky.

It doesn't require much arm talent to run that offence - and the reads aren't difficult either. 

I'm not blaming Lawrence or Sweeney, I'm just saying.

I also hate playing it every other year because they have better athletes than we do. 

The death / coffin theme is a bit much.

21 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

"Mental processing is slow"

Hmmmm

Yes, teams and scouts are INTENTIONALLY hamstringing themselves. 

They've watched the tape - there aren't any questions about his arm strength or mobility (albeit there's questions about his mechanics). 

11 minutes ago, Varking said:

Not surrounding Cam with talent:

 

I mean: 

• 2nd round pick
• FA (and former 1st round pick)
• 1st round pick
• 3rd round pick and Franchise legend
• 3rd round pick
• UDFA

They didn't neglect the position at all in terms of resources. 

13 minutes ago, Verge said:

I would no longer be a fan. 

I mean the previous guy has like 5 kids from multiple different women, including a stripper.

Where do we draw the line?

On 3/28/2021 at 8:50 PM, top dawg said:

At this point, Florio may be right: Watson should consider settling! I know some guys would still balk at the Panthers trading for him in the event that that happened, but I'd consider it (even if I wouldn't exactly jump at the chance). 

Watson would surely be a choir boy from then on...right? If not, he better step down in class of services!

If he settles with these people out of court and doesn't receive a suspension I'd offer the Texans our 2022 first round pick and immediately hire a round-the-clock rub-n-tug specialist for our new sexual deviant starting QB. 

The two big concerns I'd have with Lawrence if we were in the game for him are:

a) that offence is gimmicky as poo. So much of it is based off screens, misdirection and RPO with superior athletes.

b) his inconsistent ball placement when throwing downfield. 

That stat right there backs up a). 

16 hours ago, philit99 said:

That’s ok, my ex wife says I am wrong all of the time. Watson clearly has issues, but the shear number of complaints points to character assignation. I ask you Mr. Scot, if Watson never wanted to leave Houston, would we be having this conversation?

I wouldn't be surprised if this is retribution by Texas oil / big business, lifting the veil of anonymity on Watson's actions.

It doesn't mean the charges are false though. 

1 hour ago, BrianS said:

Agree.  They could have stayed at 12 and got Jones if he was their guy.

Don't get me wrong, I'm *THRILLED* as a Panthers fan if the 49'ers take Jones.  Over the moon.  Makes it that much more likely one of the actual first round QB's falls to us.

 

You think Jones gets past us and the Broncos?

Clearly the 49ers didn't. 

2 hours ago, t96 said:

No. #1, #89, #59 (and maybe #58) should all probably be retired. 

I'd only retire the numbers of HoFers. 

4 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Yeah ok. No one knew Cam was done after 2016. He was 1 year removed from MVP. The draft talk that year was Fournette vs McCaffrey and Running Back vs Non RB. People were pissed at Ron for playing him in meaningless games in 2016 when he got fuged up but most assumed he would bounce back, which he did kinda in 2017.

Literally go ask anyone on a certain other website - it's well documented. 

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd say the same thing about this that I did when we were talking about Watson.

If Scott Fitterer and Matt Rhule think it's a good decision, then I could get on board.

If they don't, but David Tepper pushes them to do it anyway, I'm not comfortable with that.

The guy with the lowest amount of football knowledge in the room should not be the one dictating what we do.

I'd walk away if Tepper did that to me as a HC.

He'd be hamstringing the team for years to sate his ego. Go back to coaching college teams - you wouldn't be short of offers. 

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Delusion.

So just to be clear, because I'm not comfortable taking Lance at #8 I'm delusional?

If he's there at #40 I'm running to the podium - that's a low risk, high reward pick. 

There's arguments that Mond will go in the first round too - I just wouldn't take him there.