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1 hour ago, strato said:

It takes time. Brady was talking about the colleges dropping the ball.

NFL has too long relied on college. MLB has the minors, and college. In the minors the organization can set up a consistent approach at each level which you don't get in college.

The push for athletic QBs has really changed things too. If a guy can run around and over people and throw a decent pass then you want him to touch the ball every play even if he can't read coverages.

There's a lot of truth to this - albeit it's not just about a push for athletic QBs.

The hyper focus on winning has lead to simpler and simpler offences taking hold in High School and College - ones that stress the defence vertically and horizontally. Some of that involves Read Option plays (and therefore the more athletic QBs), but it's generally simply about 'spreading' out the defence and making reads and throws as easy as possible for the QB.

The problem is that as the level of athletes on defence improve as you progress up the pyramid and the amount of time they have to game plan and practice increases, these reads and throws become more and more difficult until eventually you're left with guys sat on NFL rosters who simply can't read a coverage or recognise a blitz.

Obviously Bryce is the holy trifecta of not being able to read a coverage, read a blitz or make the required throw. 

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think he was worth what people think here. 

Might as well keep him for the season at that price.

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I can't recall another #1 pick or high 1st rounder period that just looked like he flat out didn't have NFL caliber talent. Plenty bust, but it's usually not because of a complete and utter lack of NFL caliber physical talent. There's other factors that made the physical talent not translate. But with Bryce he just flat out looks like he doesn't belong. If you didn't know who he was you'd assume he was a UDFA who went to the owner's D3 alma mater or something and only got his NFL cup of coffee because of that and he has no shot of actually making a roster.

He genuinely looks like if you grabbed a 22 year old fan out of the stands and handed him the football.

He's small, he's slow, he doesn't know the plays, he can't read the field, he can't make the throws, he doesn't want to get hit - it's actually astounding to watch.

8 minutes ago, hepcat said:

The worst #1 overall draft pick of all time. By all means keep trotting him out there so the a panthers can enjoy the distinction of trading a kings ransom for the worst QB in NFL history ever drafted #1 overall. Because at this rate Young will be that bad. 

He already is.

He's easily the biggest Draft bust of all time.

26 minutes ago, Shocker said:

We need to keep Bryce and let him develop.  Fug all you haters

Develop into what?

The bookies have Bo Nix as an 11 point favourite.

Bo. Nix.

Let that sink in.

8 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Stat padding...people think he already does it soon as the game starts. Lol

Tough for a QB to stat pad when he's handing the ball off to his RB.

22 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Shedeur would get dragged for doing the same thing. Lol 

Beating his rival by 22?

45 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Ward didn't really impress tonight vs the Florida St defense.

 

He's also trying to stat pad late in this game. They should be running the clock out.

It's a rivalry game, son. You score, score and score again. They had 2 TOs remaining when the commentator was whining about Miami not kneeling. 

Ward was efficient and didn't turn the ball over - we scored on 7 of 8 drives. 

5 hours ago, Tr3ach said:

I don't think he was a redshift but he is a sr.  He's only 22 and didn't play any his freshman year.  He has 3 years of stats and has improved each season.

He played two years at Incarnate Word, two years at Washington State and a year at Miami. 

He's absolutely a Redshirt Senior. 

19 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Cam yappin like…Cam after that run 

He needs to play better in the second half. 

44 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Miami should run the ball more.  Martinez and Fletcher are a very good combo.  

And they're probably not even our best RBs. I think Tate and Allen are better than Fletcher.

On 10/25/2024 at 5:01 PM, Panthering said:

Probably Shadeur Sanders if I'm being honest. If they do that then the FA position they'd try to target would likely be DE.

You can't build through FA right now - you'd have to SERIOUSLY overpay for any player. 

Easy money.

4 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Cam Ward watching this Panthers team and thinking to himself is it worth it. Kid might go back to school just to avoid us.

He's a Redshirt Senior.

51 minutes ago, 7CLOWNS said:

Crazy thing is, Wilks wanted to draft a QB name CJ but was told they wanted to go in another direction.

Give over.

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

As I mentioned in another thread, soccer teams in England get demoted out of the league to the minors when this shitty. It's a shame Tepper still profits off of it as is so he actually doesn't give a fug. 

The minors?!

Yeah that's pretty insulting. That's not what the football pyramid is. We do have promotion and relegation though - so does every 'soccer' league bar the MLS.

40 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Lmao what

The roster is garbage.

The carcass getting picked clean.

What a miserable time to be a Panthers fan. 

5 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

The Vols just can't get out of their own way

Two INTs, two missed FGs and only currently down by 7. Wild.

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I mean, honestly he's giving a pretty rational take. Overall, Clemson looks like the best ACC team because they're not completely reliant on winning a shootout every week while they honestly still don't look like a contender on the national level. 

Go read his posts today (and every week) - every post is anti-Miami.

Clemson might be the best team in the ACC - it'll be decided on the field - but to run down the entire conference like this is moronic. 

16 minutes ago, CRA said:

Miami and Clemson play tomorrow in the ACC Championship….

tell me who is favored in that game?  

And Clemson is just an ACC team.  All actual contenders live elsewhere   
 

 

Show me on the doll where Miami hurt you. 

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Tennessee's QB is really struggling with accuracy. He's missed on what should've been two deep ball TDs and they weren't even close.

He's fallen off a cliff. 

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Miami loses to anyone one else in the top 10. Maybe top 15. Y'all's defense is legit terrible.

Agree to disagree I guess. 

1 hour ago, CRA said:

I like Restrepo.  But he if he is your #1 and what your O is going through….I don’t call that a championship caliber O.  Thats not how  Championship caliber Os with good QBs are built. 

Hunter Renfrow was a legend.  But Hunter Renfrow was an accessory/role player.  
 

 

The O runs through Ward.

Restrepo, George, Brown, Horton and Arroyo (I think all will play in the NFL - bar maybe George) are a good cast of receivers and of course we have a host of RBs.