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Just now, Carl Spackler said:

can't wait for some weak "Sam Darnold fathead" insult

Man I'm just saying but after all your McCaffrey worship this stance on Darnold makes you look awkward AF. You got a type. Hey good for you.

2 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

That Andy Dalton's no better?

So now suddenly we have standards for the backup position?

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Minshew could make a lot of sense with our interest in Steichen...

I mean I think I've been called a Darnold superfan, and I just don't see much point. His experience has been with (for the most part) Gase and Rhule. It's actually why his career could be vastly different elsewhere if he gets a different, new coach (it probably won't be lol). But it's also why there's better guys, like Dalton, Brisset, and Minshew, that have been in various systems etc and have had some of their own relative success at times.  Darnolds best season was this stretch and he capped it with the worst game by a Panthers QB ever (stats wise)

Agreed. The sad thing is Sam is a great guy. Got absolutely no beef with him personally other than that foolish podcast he did taking offense at fans criticism. But the folks here who just want to keep living this dream are nuts.

Just now, Carl Spackler said:

Andy Dalton lost to Sam Darnold lol

And Sam Darnold lost to Mitch Trubisky what's your point?

Just now, ECHornet said:

Imagine the satisfaction I got when I scrolled across this assessment of his market value.

Much like my view of Darnold in comparison to yours, I thought this info was worth more than just another comment in a lengthy thread.

If you don't like the info, please email Spotrac or add them to your list of those who have underlying motives.

We know his floor we know his ceiling no point in tying up 10 million bucks in that. The Jets already learned the lesson people like yourself just want to keep repeating over and over and over and over.

44 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

If we resign Darnold, he’ll be starting you idiot. 10 million is almost cutting his existing contract in half, how hard is that to understand? Everyone knows the real reason you hate Sam and it’s not performance based, so GTFO…

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Oh do tell please.

And if this bum is the best we can hope for in a backup just make a run at Andy Dalton or see if Minshew is available.

One of the resident Darnold superfans who says he's tired of talking about him starts another Darnold thread lol.

"It's logical. Just need to pick the right one."

I do not have the upmost confidence in the decision making of this brain trust. Hoping for the best.

1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

Technically, he led a game winning drive as recently as [checks notes]…Sunday.

 

Like I said. No standards.

You enjoy your Sam Darnold fathead.

3 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

Someone posted Sam’s stats, and I noticed that completion %. So, since it’s been below 60% in every season but one, can we now say he’s a QB that doesn’t process well; as well as, an inaccurate one. 
 

With those 2 flaws, why would we want to bring him back? Many of the posters who are cool with the possibility of Sam coming back, were the main ones who always complained about our past QBs accuracy. Sam appears to be worse in that category. 
 

Let’s move on. 

Yep. We finally get Newton out of here and standards go out the window again.

Just now, Carl Spackler said:

Backup QBs are expected to manage games while the starter is out and do what it takes to win. He did that. They're not gonna throw for 325 yards every week, because if they did, they wouldn't be backup QBs in the first place. 

I'll say this: if you tell me our rookie QB, this fall, has 7 TD and 1 INT in his first five starts, I'm gonna say he's pretty solid, even if it's based on a great running game. In the event that QB is a veteran, I'm still gonna say a 7-1 TD-INT ratio is solid.

This team hasn't had a starting or backup-level QB for years. Darnold is better than a lot of trash backups out there. I wouldn't go into Week 1 with him tops on a depth chart, though. 

Everyone in the QB room not named Corral needs to go. Clean slate.

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

This is a nothing burger. You guys will bitch about anything. 

People made the same rationalizations for Jerry Richardson. History repeats itself.

7 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Four passer ratings above 103 in five games before that? Yeah, that's a good backup QB.

Good backup QBs can't do it for longer than that (bad ones like PJ can't do it more than once or twice), which is why I said he was going to struggle.

Handing the ball off to a backfield putting up historic rushing numbers does not make a QB a good backup. If you can't trust a guy who has all that arm talent you don't have a quarterback. Keep looking.

3 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

That's why I want Wilks. Not because he's 1A, but because he's far better than anyone Tepper can find. Plus, the players want him -- which, when he's not chosen, keep an eye on how tough it is to lure FAs here without paying twice the market rate.

Might as well bring Ron onto the staff after he's canned in Washington.

6 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

You’re insinuating that posters here who view Darnold as a better QB than PJ Walker are racist? lol & once again worthy of poo

Make sure to pass that msg along to Coach Wilks who stuck with Darnold as his starting QB. 

Wilks never said a bad word about either QB we aren't talking about him we are talking about these looney tune fans. At some point you can only attribute the Darnold infatuation to either mental illness or..other factors. It damn sure isn’t his record. He hasn't won a game in a 4th quarter on his own going on four years now. But you keep at it pooping posts fella.

1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

It's also worth considering that the odds of Tepper hiring someone like Nathaniel Hackett, or even Nathaniel Hackett himself, are overwhelming. It's almost a guarantee at this point. Then, looking back, people will wish Wilks was kept.

Hey! How dare you forget Mrs. Tepper. Between the two of them and the wheeler dealer himself Scott Fitterer we for sure should be contending for Super Bowls very soon.

1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

I wouldn't call it a defense force, I think it's people recognizing that Darnold looked pretty solid for 5 games and then sucked Sunday (which, btw, I predicted would happen). He's Derek Anderson: a good backup QB. He's not a starter.

2.8 passer rating in a game opposite Andy Dalton says we can do better even for the backup spot.

6 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Definitely has a higher success rate though if the amount of HC OCs in the playoffs mean anything. 

I prefer to go offense and try a new path but Nathaniel Hackett is a fresh cautionary tale I cannot deny that.

That's one thing about the huddle. Whether it's Matt Rhule or Sam Darnold some folks reaaaally like certain types who seem nice and try hard even if they are literal losers in sports and never won anything.

2 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

There was 100x more hand wringing on PJ's behalf on here. Maybe you just didn't log in for a while.

Sam Darnold has had his own weird cringy defense force like Matt Rhule before him since we traded for the guy. PJ Walker had like 2 people who stuck up for him on the regular and one was a former Cam troll. Not even in the same league.

25 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

My evil plan is working. 

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Pie for use of Despicable Me reference.

3 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

He was a con artist, plain and simple

When I see Matt I hear Frank Caliendo doing a John Madden impression just yammering on about anything. That was Rhule selling his con.

Just now, Jon Snow said:

This was the same rallying cry that brought us Matt Rhule. 

Rhule wasn't an offensive minded coach with NFL coordinator experience though. There were red flags when the news broke that we were hot for him like his record against ranked teams.

36 minutes ago, t96 said:

Hopefully Tepper is underwhelmed by these guys’ interviews and drags his shriveled up brass balls begging back to Harbaugh

Harbaugh is probably asking for things Tepper doesn't want to give after the Rhule fiasco. He definitely wants his own GM at minimum. Not saying that is good or bad just what's likely on the table. I don't get why we are so attached to Fitterer given his overall record and the Seahawks have been doing even better since he left anyway.