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10 minutes ago, Basbear said:

alt accounts are coming out like /cdn-cgi/mirage/f11bc38bf55db76da0c802f455104b905453e87febe58c60fa5e16d0b1d08c1f/1280/https://www.carolinahuddle.com/uploads/monthly_2023_01/cockroach-infestation-on-window.jpg.ad9ed4ce872226df2f11159b1f586564.jpg

Yeah but this is more the Joe's Apartment kind of infestation.

No idea what to expect. The bigger question is can Fitterer successfully navigate this process and prove the bad the last two years was all Matt Rhule. I hope so.

4 minutes ago, Killah_Ray said:

It’s like people forgot how much a downgrade he was from McDermott…

Right and that's supposed to be his bread and butter as a coach. I definitely do not recall any screaming about firing him being unfair. Same can be said for when we fired Eric Washington. Emotion is the common thread now.

25 minutes ago, GuessWhosBack said:

Team moral just dip -10...

 

Wilks > Reich...hope he proves me wrong. 

Wilks had the players respect...Reich going have to earn it.

Did Reich ever find his QB in Indy...sounds a bit like Rhule...Wentz/Darnold...Baker/Matt Ryan..

And I hope Wilks gets a HC shot somewhere else, and make the playoffs...and watch the huddle meltdown when we go 5-11 the next three years...lol

watch he sign Daniel Jones....

Is that you Chuck? Confirmed Reich was the right hire if you hate it

3 minutes ago, Teddy2SuperBowlHeartBreaks said:

McVay looked like a dweeb this year without superior talent on the offense. It doesn't matter who the coach is if you don't have a QB, or incredible talent. And to that point, you could argue that Wilks coached the BEST VERSION OF SAM DARNOLD throughout the end of the season.

Sam Darnold had the 9th worst passer rating in NFL history under Wilks what are you smoking?

I keep seeing talk about the locker room. The same locker room let an aging and mediocre Steelers team come into town and throw us into a ditch. Love for Wilks didn't make a difference. All that matters is winning.

4 minutes ago, Silent Majority said:

Wish Wilks the best. The couched hate for that man is on par for the huddle.

From who though? Probably two or three who legitimately don't like him personally or other. Rivera had cancer and still some people here despised him. Truthfully there were times some could have suggested bigotry toward him was a factor. But I don't recall ever seeing it. Regardless I wish Steve the best. But I think and hope we made the right choice in changing direction.

3 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

A lotta angry Wilks fans right now. Love to see it.  

Just now, uncfan888 said:

I'm sure you're happy. You've been banging the Reich drum for a while now haha

On the flip side he also pounded the Hackett drum for a long time. Hopefully not the kiss of death here.

Well alright let's see what happens. I feel a little more optimistic today than i did before. Now time to get a look at we do with the staff and the draft.

2 minutes ago, ickmule said:

No way to know if Wilks would have us at mediocrity. He was never given a fighting chance at HC. I will be here to say I told you so when Reich flops and to eat crow if he doesn’t, but I’ve been around the block long enough to know his style and personality won’t last long term. Wilks did extremely well with the hand he was dealt and 1000% deserves a shot. Anything less than HC and I expect him to walk away.  If he doesn’t I lose a lot of respect for him.  

They both could flop who knows. I'm not extremely thrilled with either but Reich brings a shift in philosophy. And for all the positives some offer on behalf of Wilks he had the job in front of him and absolutely nothing to lose yet he showed us he is conservative to a fault with the playoffs on the line. I like him personally but count me as a firm no on another round of a stubborn defensive minded head coach. Rivera will be available next year if that's all your after.

Wait is Ickmule a Wilks stan? I thought he was steadfastly against mediocrity. Man these last several years really put a hurting on some folks mental state I guess.

It's unreasonable to expect either man to take a lesser position. It's one or the other. Neither are a spring chicken so you aren't making a 10 year hire. If it's between the two roll the dice on a new vision for the offense for the next few years and cultivate a staff where you may have a young coordinator ready to possibly step into the role in the next several years or so.

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Okay, so who actually has a better resume than Reich?

I'd agree Tepper seems to be playing it safer with this hire relative to his last one, but I don't see how this is a poorly made choice made over meatballs or something. Reich has an impressive resume, he's just not as exciting to fans.

We've taken our time more sure but we went from saying it was going to be a small pool of candidates to bringing in just about anyone who would interview and now we are back to Wilks or a retread. And as far as I can tell no one has so much as given Wilks a call. Now people can speculate that has to do with his lawsuit and it's possible but I don't buy it. I can accept Reich as the head coach. Though he has cons like Wilks we can't overlook that. But again it is at least a new direction so I would wait and let things play out while hoping for the best.

9 minutes ago, Growl said:

why is this team consistently at the mercy of who manages to buddy it up with businessman outsider Dave tepper in the interview and not the individual with the strongest on field resume’

People don't want to hear it but you are on the money with this in regards to Tepper’s process. Though at least with Reich we will see emphasis on the offense.

Just announce Reich already.

1 minute ago, ncfan said:

I don’t like losing and don’t want to suck.

but man, what another 2010 season could do some nice weeding out some of these fans the jumped on in 2015

We haven't been in the playoffs in going on 6 years my guy. The bandwagon fans are long gone mostly.

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

This is why we have a joke of a fanbase.

People actively rooting for the team to fail because they hate the coach we hired.

 

I didn't like the Rhule hire but I didn't want to see him fail.

 

Man times have changed.lol

 

 

Not at all honestly. Ron Rivera got a ton of hate here this is nothing. Way more people support Wilks right now than they did Ron by the end.

17 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Nearly every single coach at some point has been fired, this talk has got to stop.....im losing my last two cells...

 

If anyone can name three head coaches that have never been fired at any point in their career, please DO!! Here I will even help tons- Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh are the only two I can think of and I do not care to look up their history, cause I know 99,999765434567% have been fired.....

Obviously no one is disputing that. The issue is Tepper is clearly shook after the Rhule fiasco and looking at the safer options first and foremost and that's Wilks and Reich. One of them could fail just as easily as a first time head coach in someone like Steichen. If this is the path it's all a roll of the dice I just want us to put more focus on the offense I'll hope for the best either way.

The Jaguars hiring Doug P seems to have worked out alright. If a retread is all we have to look forward to just hire Reich I guess.

3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

I am sure it has happened but does anyone have examples of interim NFL coaches that actually worked out?  Feels like a rare occurrence.

https://usbettingreport.com/news/how-have-interim-head-coaches-fared-in-the-nfl-in-the-past-10-years/

This is just one of the first results from my search but Doug Marrone and Mike Mularkey are the two most recent to make the jump from interim to permanent on a long term basis. Marrone went 24-43 and Mularkey went 36-53. That doesn't bode well for the pro Wilks folks to say the least.

On the one hand credit where it is due that he decided to man up and acknowledge this. He still should have done this months ago and the fact that he waited until he got comfy in his new coaching job confirms what we already knew about him. Good riddance.

Just now, hepcat said:

I really don’t care who the players prefer since most of them won’t be here in 3 years let alone next year. Any good coach will get all the players behind them and playing hard. 

Well if they preferred him so much they wouldn't have let the Steelers and Mitch Trubisky walk all over us at home in a game our media team hyped as a protect our turf big match-up. The team failed miserably. That tells me all I need to know about how much it matters that Wilks is popular.

16 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I like how the fans don't want Wilks, but the players want him back.

 

 

Players adored Marty Hurney too maybe let's bring him back in some capacity if Washington let's him go.

1 minute ago, ncfan said:

He pushed for Wentz after he took the job.  Luck retired.   And instead of drafting him one.  Irsay and Ballard decided to get him Jacolby Brissett and Old Man River.  So eventually he decided to just grab a guy he had success with in Philly.

He still had 3 winning seasons out of 4 despite all that.

Could do worse at least he isn't a defensive coordinator. Depending on his staff I could live with it. I'd feel better knowing we're changing directions at least.