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8 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Just to see if I can understand this clearly :

 

One cannot want Sam Delusional to succeed (which would benefit the team) because if that person does, then that means he's a fan of him and is "on the Sammy juice"....which is disgusting on so many levels.   Damn frank.   ewww. 

 

 

It was a joke dude relax. Wanting him to succeed and some of the rhetoric here about his future based off one or two games versus an entire career of work that is not so pretty are different things and why many people are giving side eye. We've always known he has arm talent even when he was horrible with the Jets he would still have a few wow throws here and there. He's had those here in the midst of terrible performances. Even if he continues to look better over the next two games I'm still not jumping in the water just yet. I'm eyeing QB's in the first round of the draft no matter what. That's just me.

Oh lawd Glenwo is back on the Sammy juice

14 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

This guy Grant Cohn is despised by 49ers players. Total piece of shite

 

Oh I don't doubt that at all. That's the majority of guys looking to make a name on Twitter. That was just one of the first things that popped up when I searched Josh Norman 49ers. Like I said previously I was and still am a fan of Norman but I know reality vs fantasy and reality is sooner or later Josh is going to get cooked and some people will act surprised but it is what it is.

Woof. I predict some unkind things being said about Norman on the huddle in the not so distant future.

3 hours ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Agreed. It’s okay to be upset with his actions. Any man should. But give him the opportunity to redeem himself. 

On 6/30/2022 at 9:52 AM, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Head on out. Bye. You clearly care more about sports than morality. 

I like Norman but if you've followed a bit of his career the last few years you know how this ends. I give it about one half before people start to call for him to be cut.

7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I hope the struggles outlast the GM, Wilson and all of them. fug that franchise.

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The Broncos are a shitshow

1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

His two head coaches have been ADAM GASE and MATT RHULE. Arguably two of the worst NFL head coaches since the year 2000.

If you put him in Los Angeles with the Rams what would mcvay get out of him? Dude could probably win a Super Bowl and look elite doing it.

The issue isn't Darnold. 

 

And since you're an expert, who do you propose we draft to replace him? How many picks do you suppose we send to San Fransisco for a guy with the same problems in Jimmy G? There are no free agent QB's who will be better and no one we can draft will have a higher ceiling. Unless you want Anthony...barf...Richardson. Or worse...Will Levis...

We need to a build a team and see what Darnold can do with quality tight ends, a quality 3rd receiver, and a competent (the first of his career) coaching staff.

The thing about starting 3-0 last year was our offense was built around CMC. Now our offense is far more generic and is not reliant on a single player to work, thus this streak is not an anomaly like that was. 

We aren't replacing Darnold because we shouldn't. There is no one out there we can get, or should get, who is going to be better in the short or long term, especially in this draft. You put a mew QB in amd you have the same issues of the worst tight ends in the league and two quality receivers.

You're a Darnold believer I get it. That's swell for you sir. But all of this is unsettled we do not yet know what Darnold is or isn't pertaining to if he has truly turned a corner as a starter. One game against the Lions doesn't change nearly 5 full seasons of gametape. These are the facts.

8 minutes ago, YourLastThought said:

It's funny I say "you again?" everytime I see one of your posts as well so we have that in common and will be chummy buddies before we know it! Oh okay so one pro Darnold person exists. I guess that one person makes up the army of Darnold extremists then. In your way of thinking how you present yourself to anybody that does not fully agree with you on everything I'm sure I am an extremist as well since I say he should start rest of the way to see if he is worthy of being a bridge to a new rookie QB or a decent backup for the future right? Does that classify me as an extremist also? 

I actually want to know now as you have me curious Mr Frank. What do you feel we should do with Darnold the rest of the way and beyond? I'm for keeping PJ and Darnold for at least backups. Also keeping Corral to see what he has in him next preseason and bringing in a rookie. We go in camp with 4 guys and probably keep three so one will have to be cut and from there I have no idea as at bare minimum I at least think Darnold and PJ could be decent backups. Probably PJ as a cheaper backup so it may give him an edge there. That's of course if Darnold hasn't had some amazing turn around change and development all of a sudden and has not gotten it all put together to be a dominant starter in the NFL but odds are against that I realize hence why I think if he will sign for a cheaper price at least carry him into training camp next season to further look while also starting him last couple games to further evaluate but open the play book up and let's see if he has grown and developed any where he can play under some pressure. That's all I know to do currently but I do realize we should probably bring in another rookie QB to see if we can hit on one. 

Darnold is a decent backup/bridge option I have no issues with him from a personal standpoint it's the lunacy from some expecting him to become a franchise quarterback at this stage. It's possible but that storyline is stale. See what he does these next two games. From there draft a QB in 2023 no matter what. Simple enough process for me

12 minutes ago, YourLastThought said:

Darnold extremists? Do they exist? Or could we say people tagged by you as "Darnold extremists" are merely people pleasantly surprised that his play went up a little and want to see what he does the last few games of the season to decide whether or not he is worthy of signing as a bride guy for a rookie or signing as a reliable backup? I don't think I have seen even one "Darnold extremist" on this board yet but we can call anybody who's opinions may differ from yours slightly an "extremist" to further your narrative if you like I guess.

You again? The guy is one of the main Darnold homers here and if this post doesn't spell it out for you I can't help you. Run along now.

On 11/6/2022 at 2:08 PM, OldhamA said:

Darnold isn't dressed. There's no-one else on the roster I want to see at QB.

Let Walker die out there I say.

5 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

The same OC that's just put up a franchise record for yards in a game?

McAdoo is a genius now? The Darnold extremists are going to great lengths with this cope. I'm very eager to see what Ben and Sam can cook up for us if our run game isn't reaching historic heights.

8 hours ago, glenwo2 said:

Who gives a sh*t what Baker is doing on another team? 

He wasn't doing sh*t as a Panther.

It has relevancy to the convo because while I agree to this point Sam does show capability to be a backup/bridge QB we don't know if how he is playing is sustainable or if he will revert to old habits when pressure to score points on his own without a powerful run game increases. The situation with Baker is an example of not putting too much stock into a performance one way or another like some people are doing now suddenly thinking we can hitch our wagon to Sam for the foreseeable future and forego drafting another quarterback.

It figures the Cardinals couldn't take care of business. But yeah the refs will definitely look out for Tom if we let the game stay close in the fourth quarter. We really need the pass rush to step up.

2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Russell didn’t make us wait until December lol 

Indeed but I'm just giddy to see the Broncos in peril teetering on the edge of catastrophe and embarrassing themselves.

This mess with pulling Patrick Mahomes into an argument to validate reasoning why Sam Darnold of all QB's could be really good is proof we need more other teams fans posting here to ridicule this buffoonery into oblivion. The echo chamber here is sad.

Russell Wilson and Tom Brady both looking like hot garbage in December is a fantastic gift.

@Catsfan69You can poo every post on this board it won't change facts. Stay mad Jethro.

So Baker Mayfield who most here would agree was total ass cheeks as a Carolina Panther just set the single game completion percentage record for the Rams at 85.7% in a win where they dropped 51 points. Meanwhile some Panthers fans here are ready to crown Sam Darnold because he finally managed 68% with a 300 yard rushing day from his backfield. Gotta love the Panthers fanbase.

29 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

He proved against the Vikes last year we can climb on his back or are you forgetting the 90yd 2 min drive?

He had a 36.2 QBR and threw a pick on the first play in that game haha

4 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

7 pts? What are you talking about Willis?

Threw a td.

Had a td dropped 

Ran for a td

Passed us down close and I think Foreman scored.

Ran us down close and made a great pitch play.

He threw for 250

If Sam is going to become a guy it's going to be with his arm we've already seen what running like Cam Newton did for him against the Falcons in Atlanta. Remind me how many games was it he missed from that hit? In this league you've got to be able to get the ball in the end zone with your arm too.

5 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

You're upfront.

You're also being dishonest due to your bias and hatred.

You can't acknowledge he played well. 

That's false I already acknowledged him in another thread. The truth of the matter is you and a few other Darnold extremists on this board hurt his cause with your malarkey. He had some good throws and played well enough to win. He only put up 7 points though and had a run game put up 300 yards against the Lions. We do not get to play Detroit on repeat like Madden all the way to the Super Bowl. We have to play good teams with very good QB's and that means Sam has to put points on the board. Our red zone passing efficiency really isn't at all impressive. You need that to compete with playoff teams. Darnold has to show he can hang with the best at his position throw for throw. That hasn't happened.

The Sean McVay effect.

We could have Cheddar Bob behind center and still people like Catsfan69 would somehow find a way to hype him up like he's a future hall of famer. Meanwhile he detests mobile QB's with a few notable exceptions like Steve Young and Joe Montana. He's pretty upfront with the motivations behind his reasoning.