frankw

3 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

it's a better city than Charlotte. 

You truly do have the worst takes. If you hate Charlotte so much you are welcome to see yourself out

Most people would root for Hannibal Lecter if it meant winning consistently. The morality and rivalry bluster about Payton would pass in time.

If Tepper swings a Payton/Fangio combo I'll probably be willing to give him a temporary reprieve on criticism for awhile.

1 hour ago, SetfreexX said:

Pretty sure PJ had early turnovers that sparked the snowball, and if you watch the pressers, two of those three TD's was man coverage with deep safety help for each half of the field. 

So a better question would be were was the help, Keith like when Donte' fell just got beat by a better received. 

Wilks re-capped it in the presser after the game. If you only watched the game I could see how you might feel that way. 

Back to CIN let's not act like they are not a good team, and team many aspire to be. We got whooped, but the offense as we know being limited didn't show up, and the turnovers early killed us which meant running was no longer an option.

Right but Wilks has a heavy defensive background that's his bread and butter. And honestly man the Bengals are still a good team but they've taken a step back overall from last season. Look at how close the Ravens played them with Huntley starting. There's nothing wrong with wanting to roll the dice on Wilks but like any of the other candidates we have to acknowledge the pros and cons and after years of watching John Fox and Ron Rivera in a league that has changed substantially in the last decade there's also nothing wrong with wanting to roll those same dice on a different philosophy altogether.

If we're crapping on Ben Johnson for the loss against us then let's keep it consistent and talk about that Bengals blowout 35 points in a half. And let's also talk about how we let the Bucs keep destroying our secondary without making any attempts at adjustments ie classic Ron Rivera.

I'm just not interested in seeing another defensive head coach rerun. Arguing Rivera got us to a Super Bowl actually has the opposite effect for the argument in favor of Wilks. Remove the threat of a generational talent in Cam Newton bullying defenses for years and Rivera would have been fired in his second or third season. There's no Cam Newton to save Steve Wilks. We need a new philosophy and someone who can and will actually develop a quarterback. All good things and well wishes to Wilks but I simply do not see him as the coach for that.

If it's Steichen or Kafka I can live with it. Just get something done.

He's the best available option by far so yes.

3 minutes ago, t96 said:

where do you guys see that he's interviewing with us today? I thought I saw yesterday we're interviewing him Friday

It's a bit confusing between three or so different threads. Apparently we are interviewing the Broncos defensive coordinator today and Payton on Friday.

So he is interviewing today?

18 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Agreed just hire Wilks. 

1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

Didnt Fitts just GM for a coach that had full power?

All he did was get the coffee and order food for everybody right lol

If we hire him so be it I guess. I'm not loving the idea but he's a winning established coach so I'll be along for the ride.

Both losing isn't an option so I would rather see Brady bounced from the playoffs. I'm just tired of seeing that guy. You got your 7 rings fug off already.

Relocating. That's about it.

Giants do have limitations but they have talent and you can't deny the difference coaching has made. We can't be scared to make a big change. If either Johnson or Steichen have a plan that will bring our offense up to par with the rest of the league you make the hire.

4 hours ago, ladypanther said:

lol...I would never use Bayless as a source. I ignore him.

 Sean Payton expressed disagreement with Jackson’s decision to go public with his injury status, adding that Payton is “hearing grumblings” from the building, and that there are “teammates” who believe his “process has been slower than expected.”

 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/15/mike-vick-to-lamar-jackson-put-a-brace-on-it-lets-go/

The ringleader of bountygate? Come on lol. I was referring to you labeling him a quitter. We've had players here who have been oft injured but I haven't seen the "quitter" label casually tossed around. Injury prone sure but not outright saying a guy is only looking out for himself and screwing over the team. And Michael Vick of all people should know better than to say that after what he went through. It sounds hypocritical but that's his right. Social media now is full of whispers and claims of sources. Much of it is just nonsense. After what happen to Griffin and Newton over the years through all the wear and tear that eventually led to the demise of his career I do not blame a man for not wanting to further risk injury. We aren't talking minor discomfort. Knee injuries are a different story. It's kind of wild to see all this after Damar Hamlin too. I said it when it happened much of the concern was performative. Most fans don't actually care one way or another they just want to be entertained and telling a guy to just put a brace on it and possibly go blow out his knee is a pretty clear example of that.

7 hours ago, ladypanther said:

For clarification....I only poo'd 1 post. And that was because in that post I was referred to as "girl". (By the way, AngieLean as gone back and poo'd 2 of my posts so far.  I guess he has a net win)

Because I had an opinion that they did not share, a couple of posters have made derogatory and disparaging  remarks about me. That is a line I decided not to tolerate.

Many of us have differing opinions here.  That is fine. Personal attacks are uncalled for.

My opinion was actually shared by some current and former players and NFL pundits.  As well as shared by other posters. Not everyone agrees, that is fine. We learn from other posters here...some of the time. No one is right all of the time.

So, Frank...I am not pooing posts over Lamar Jackson.

 

Things get chippy here and most of us are guilty in some capacity of attacking one anothers opinion it's the nature of sports fan is short for fanatic. I just thought it was funny seeing your handle attached to a poo emoji. But in regards to this discussion I must say the energy in here doesn't line up. Now I've seen some very weird excuses and building up of just flat out either bad or mediocre quarterbacks the last three or so odd years here. So to see people saying another is a quitter because he does not want to play through a knee injury is just not a good look for this community. There may be others in the sports world echoing this sentiment but when you consider one of them is probably Skip Bayless keep in mind that's who you're aligned with. Just something to chew on

I would be very hesitant to give up a haul for Lamar due to the injury concerns but I cannot deny if healthy he would make us instant Super Bowl contenders in this conference. Look at who is winning in the NFC playoffs right now. Daniel Jones? Brock Purdy? I'm getting some vibes from this thread a little reminiscent of the Cam days. LadyPanther even in here pooing posts over Lamar Jackson lol really? Awkward.

If you're watching this game just remember this is the same Bengals that blew the doors off a Wilks coached team by 35 points in the first half alone. This only solidifies my stance that we need an offensive head coach.

12 minutes ago, chbright said:

Lol still a poo post got what it deserved. What was the last metric that mattered for you GWD? Look up the leader this year. It's cousins with 8 in the 4th. Yeah he can't win them all. And boy that was a bad time for a bad one. But over rated nah. He ain't top 5 and is likely on the outside of the top 10 but he is right there. Defense didn't do him favors or the OL (false start on the damn sneak was bad for by VT boy) and had to kick the FG. 

I'd take cousins here all damn day he's wolds better than the teddy B comments floating out. Lolz

There's a lot of cope in this post. You must've had money on Minnesota.

7 minutes ago, chbright said:

Lord, I'm in your head now lmao!

I'll take some pie as repayment for you shitting on my head earlier when I told you he was overrated 🫡

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's the criticism of Cousins and what other players have said about him. More concerned about his stat line than he is the outcome of the game. You cannot throw that ball there with the defender right there for the tackle. You gotta take the risk to throw it past the sticks.

Cousins just got eliminated by Daniel Jones and even after the refs wrap him up an easy first down with a bow on it. Ooooooof.