frankw

Sunshine must be thinking about life after football already.

7 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Lol...I hope the Seahawks re-sign Geno as the STARTER.,

 

It would be the equivalent of the Panthers re-signing Sam to start.    lol

It's that or a rookie. Or make a run at Carr. He's still quite a bit better than Darnold sad as it is to admit.

Tepper hates the criticism and is going to do what he wants. Knowing his ego he's probably going to be less inclined to make the change now more than ever.

Yep flag city. Fug the Niners.

Niners get a lead and ofc the flags on the opponent start flying lol

If San Fran makes a run it's gonna be through that stacked defense. I'd take DeMeco over Wilks.

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

@rayzor

Now, if you want a true example of someone "dwelling on it"...

My guy you have 125k posts lol go easy talking down to others about dwelling on sports.

DK is a problem damn.

Geno is going to get paid big. Good for him.

They are running the whole offense through him and sitting on 16 points.

I love that the last option is winning. I voted that just to add fuel to the fire. But in truth it could go either way. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile.

7 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

No one should believe any reports from now until draft that claim to know what people "inside the building" are thinking.  

It's Will Kunkel. He as much credibility as the average huddle poster.

16 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

You're so easy to rile.

Oh no honey. I have not yet begun to defile myself. The offseason just started there's plenty of time.

Will Kunkel is the source?

13 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

By the time CMC hits 30, I absolutely expect him to be a full time Slot WR, maybe take the occasional hand off like Deebo has done the last few years.

If the Niners decided to make him a full time Slot WR next year, he'd immediately be one of the best players out of the slot in the league, behind only the likes of guys like Kupp, Lamb, etc, the stud WRs who already play the slot almost exclusively.  

That has been the fallacy of everyone who wanted to trade him because of his position and contract, as his contract for an elite Slot WR of his caliber would be a steal.

Considering what they gave up for him in the trade and his contract I would be very surprised if they did that this early. That removes a significant part of what makes his game special by removing the attention he commands from defenses across the field. If he's still doing that at 30 you also have to account for one of the first things to go being some of that speed. Time is undefeated. Just ask our last franchise quarterback.

6 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

And that we'd trade him away and watch a team use him properly and him finally not get bad luck with freak injuries and we'd watch him dominate for the next decade, particularly once a team moves him into the slot full time once he hits 30ish.

He takes a lot of hits still and the average shelf life of running backs has been pretty clear. He also has a great deal of usage from both Stanford and in Carolina. Expecting him to play well into his thirties in peak form is fantasy.

4 hours ago, heel31ok said:

Its ok beenn through it before.wont say I told ya so,but...

It's a crapshoot anyway keep swinging until you hit.

20 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Who is that talking to you? He has a cool watch.

McCaffrey fans are the new Cam fans. No years of complaints from you this go around though. Only confirms what we knew then. Enjoy your day big guy.

7 hours ago, panthersphan said:

Should've never traded CMC. Anyone saying it was a win trade for the Panthers is either clueless or a homer (or both)...

Just imagine what an incoming offensive minded head coach could do with CMC here... 

 

Are we gonna even resign D'Onta? Or try and fill that void via free agency or the draft? I mean there are some names in FA but we'll never be able to find another CMC. 

Do what just about every other team in the NFL is doing. Draft one and keep building the oline there will be holes for any back worth their salt to run through.

2 hours ago, heel31ok said:

Will have to wait til at least next year for that.

You might want to but the front office has other plans and the clock is ticking.

5 hours ago, Mike2.0 said:

How many head coaches faced what Reich did in Indy?

After year one they were optimistic because they had Andrew Luck and had made the play offs. What does Luck do? Retire in preseason. Not the off-season when it gives the team a chance to draft, trade for, or sign a replacement quarterback - but retire in the preseason. So in year two he gets stuck with Hoyer and Brissett, good luck winning big with one of those guys as your quarterback.

Year three? They sign Rivers and return to the play offs. Once again Reich is kick down low because his quarterback retires. At least Rivers did it in January. So three years into the job he’s had two quarterbacks retire on him. What does his GM decide to do? Trade for a reclamation project in Carson Wentz… when that failed what did their GM decide to do? Trade for another short term fix in Matt Ryan. 

It honestly bewilders me how their GM has kept his job and Reich has been fired. I don’t recall any other coaches having to deal with five different starting quarterbacks in consecutive seasons. If anyone failed Indy it is their GM by not fixing the QB position, and that’s before his hit and miss drafting and free agency signings are considered. 

All of that aside, I do agree that we need to stay with the times and not get stuck in the old ways, but at the same time we can’t rule out experience like Reich. He’s a good coach and has done a good job as an OC in the past. I think he’d be a good appointment as OC under Wilks.

Like I said he definitely got a raw deal. No argument about Wentz they have some very poor management in the front office. Jim Irsay say no more. But he's 61 so the most you're going to get is a couple seasons. My biggest thing is seeing some real innovation. We have basically a void at TE the position is a complete afterthought most games. Wilks is a really big gamble no different than any of the coordinator to head coach first timers would be. And the thing with Wilks is he's making some of the same gaffes Rivera did early on punting instead of going for it kicking field goals when the game is slipping away. We just don't need a rerun of this and if it happens and one of these other coaches go on to have success this place is going to be very unbearable. I just hope we get this right.

1 hour ago, MechaZain said:

@frankw you're not wrong but glossing over San Franciso's success after the trade while pointing to ours is where you lose me. Our success since the trade is just proof that we're stuck in an ancient offensive scheme not that CMC is overrated.

This team is conservative to it's core and tried to fit a non-traditional player into a traditional bellcow RB role. He's an undersized back on a team with a weak offensive line and they were treating him like Le'Veon Ball. He's underwhelming and not worth big money in that role. They correctly recognized his talent was worth it but wrongly bet on the coaching figuring how to make him work for us. 

The organization is trying to evolve now on the coaching end and the o-line is much better. With luck, the next regime will be the type that could actually take advantage of a player like CMC but it probably would have been too late had he stuck around. It was good for both sides that we parted ways when we did.

 

Not glossing over them. SF was a good well coached team before the trade and they are better now. As a pass catcher McCaffrey is not overrated he's always been pretty lethal in that role. The question is like with us when we were making McCaffrey the focal point becomes is that sustainable? You've got a guy running catching and throwing? Certainly impressive. Will it knock off the best teams in the league? We'll see. The NFL always adjusts eventually and if playoff teams shut some of that down the stakes change. We've seen it ourselves. What the Panthers need is a more versatile offense we've gotten a peek at that with some very mediocre at best QB's and not fantastic coaching. We are not far off from competing. Get a better offensive staff in here and a talented young quarterback and we are cooking.

32 points from LaMelo in a 10 point loss and our young center we just drafted never even left the bench. Even if we get Wembanyama Cliff is just going to let him rot on the bench.

8 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

My argument was that Carr, while better than Darnold, isn’t worth $35 million more per year. I stand by that.
 

Give me Darnold for two years, $10mil over Carr for two years, $80 mil. Just imagine the other talent we could acquire with that $70mil over that span. 

In that scenario pass on both and draft your QB.