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4 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:
No man, the thought that a 5-6 year window of competing for a super bowl is short is the part that is baffling. Do you know how rare it is for a QB to make it through their entire second contract with a franchise?
Teams dont have the same QB for 7+ years. In case you havent noticed the past two off seasons and now this upcoming ... teams moving on from QBs is extremely common. They cost too much for a franchise to maintain and acquire talent.
In the last 20 years, there have been less than 15 total QBs who have played more than 7 seasons with a single team. 8 of those won a super bowl.... (Favre, WIlson, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Ben, Manning 1, and Manning 2)Outside of Ben and Brady... those super bowl wins were within their first 7 seasons of being with that franchise... never won one after.
Yeah we're on different pages here. You thought I meant Super Bowl window I was referring to the time left in Carr's career to win or compete for a championship. If he isnt competing for one in the next couple of seasons it isn't going to happen doesn't matter if it's us or someone else. I'm not in favor of throwing a contract at him so you don't have to convince me. But based on you posting that CBS tweet you seem to be a believer. That's cool.
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4 minutes ago, travisura said:
Boy does some of that sentiment sound very familiar. I remain of the opinion that our only path forward is via the draft.
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3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:
You think he's going to play into his forties? For clarification purposes I had the misfortune along with the rest of you of watching a QB built like a greek god physically fall apart by 32. Different circumstances obviously but you can't make assumptions time is undefeated.
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2 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:
Hell, if he had Darnold and PJ Walker all 17 games, he'd have gotten there.
When we get the right QB in here I firmly believe DJ is going to be the stud we have hoped for and silence the doubters. But he is not without his faults. He's going to have to be more consistent with his effort and be willing to take things to the next level. He's a laid back easy going guy but sometimes he's a little too chill. I think we could see him break from his shell more with a more vocal and confident starting quarterback.
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If someone wants to venture over to a Raiders forum I'd be curious to hear what the average take is on Carr and his time there now that he is officially gone. He has never lacked the talent. But he just had the lowest completion percentage since his rookie year. How much of it was McDaniels? The other layer is he will be 32 in March. So that's what a 5-6 year window maybe? Not every guy is going to be Brady and play well into their 40's. We should just be as realistic as possible about this knowing not only his circumstances but our own in our failures of pursuing other teams castoffs.
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I guess I would have to accept it and I would support him. But I just don't like the odds of yet another reclamation acquisition. I mean how many times can we do this? What's the definition of insanity? Right.
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Plenty to like with the experienced staff. Now to see if this group can identify the right QB.
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2 minutes ago, ladypanther said:
Word is they may have some trouble retaining that core. Lots are free agents and then there is the cap.
Well you can't keep everybody but we'll find out how they make it work. The NFC is still mostly wide open and when you consider the state of our division we could even be in the thick of things with the right moves. Look at the strides the Giants made with a fairly minimal roster. First things first we need to hit on a QB of our own and we'll be cooking.
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I didn't even realize he was going to be doing the Super Bowl. He's great in the booth and it's even better to have a former Panther repping. I hope he gets more opportunities. I'd much rather listen to him than some others.
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41 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:
Dude they were 14-3 with that offense and took KC to the damn wire last night. If you have the players and scheme its a damn hard offense to stop
Let him be a simpleton. He thinks because Hurts has a similar game to Cam Newton he's going to be a one hit wonder. As long as the Eagles retain the core of their team they are going to remain a problem in the conference. If we stop being scared and make a move in the draft for our QB we could be competing with them.
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Well you're welcome to feel that way but their coaching has been in another league compared to what we've seen from our team the last few years. The fumble touchdown and big punt return changed the game.
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38 minutes ago, MHS831 said:
Sixth year? He has played 5. He is 25 years old. But you are--once again--arguing against points I did not make. Damn son. I compared him with people who were considered busts in 2021, and I demonstrated how some were better with new coaches and new systems. I said he has all the physical tools but the light has not come on yet, and it may not.
What the hell are you arguing against? I never claimed to be a believer. Not once. Nadda.
He is entering his sixth season. For someone who isn't a believer you're doing a lot of arguing on his behalf. That's cool though. Appreciate the dialogue.
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Tremble could thrive under this new staff but IMO we definitely should be looking to take a TE early it's time to get serious about the position and no Ian Thomas is not the guy in any capacity.
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1 hour ago, Day1PanthersFan said:
Macadoo went pass happy against the Bucs, putting alot of pressure on Sam
If you want to win in this league and more importantly go to and win in the postseason you have to have a potent passing attack. If we have a QB who can't even do that we don't have a starting QB plain and simple.
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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:
You think we cannot have conversations around here because you Distort the original post to fit into something "black and white" so you can argue. It is not "black and white"
You are arguing against my statements that many QBs who were labeled as busts in 2021 turned it around in 2022 with new coaches and systems. That is a fact. You are arguing against the concept that this could happen to Darnold with a new coach and system, but you apply your opinions and assume everyone must agree or they are wrong.
And when I provide examples, you ignore them or mock me for providing an outlier--and in the same post, you do the same thing on the other end of the spectrum.
Coaches are teachers--they do not get under the center with the QB--that is correct. You got it. However, please list the physical skills Darnold lacks to be a good NFL QB:
(I'll wait here while you get the list together)
Hint: There are none.
Darnold's issues are cerebral. The light needs to come on, and when it does, he will be very good. It may not, and I said that.
He's a sixth year starter. If it hasn't happened yet it isn't likely too. He has a 58% career completion percentage. He isn't even accurate for all the physical tools you keep mentioning. There have been a number of other QB's who have had the same tools as Darnold who have not continually received the benefit of the doubt like he for some reason continues to get here. Hey at the end of the day one can choose to be a believer or a skeptic. The numbers and the eye test say he's who he is and who he's going to continue to be as a quarterback from my point of view. Again you have the right to believe what you want. Bur you were also a Kyle Allen believer at one point too so I'll leave it at that.
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21 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:
Yeah, we all are. Well, except for the folks still clinging to Sam Darnold potentially being the answer. Evidently they enjoy the losing.
For some losing is acceptable as long as the starting QB doesn't make them uncomfortable.
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1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:
Offensive lines win or lose championships...
You need strength in the trenches for sure. Of course if you want to actually win a championship it helps a great deal if the referees like you as evidenced by last night.
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3 hours ago, glenwo2 said:
Don't worry, though...The Big Bad Darnold won't be around to "hurt you" anymore.
Instead, we'll have someone else we'll probably bitch about.
Panthers fans have bitched about every QB. Actually they bitched the loudest about the only MVP in franchise history. What has Darnold accomplished with two teams now? Why does he have such a following? Why so many chances? Other QB's have been long given up on by now.
He'll be 30 and his fanclub will still be saying "but wait...this is the year it's all going to click!"
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1 hour ago, glenwo2 said:
Even in jest, your "joke" may come to life :
Synchronized hair fixing? I don't have a problem with that with my bald head.
Unfortunately, they're also going to show him highlights from the other games, too.
We'll see what happens.
If it was any other person at QB Coach, I would say "No chance Sam is back" but McCown here really muddies the waters a bit on what will happen.McCown is hoping for a head coaching gig. Developing a rookie QB like some other succeasful teams have done seems far more likely than trying to salvage a sixth year bust.
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The jimmies get rustled in a hurry when you say something about the bunghole of America.
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2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:
Funny thing is I can respect actual Chiefs fans more than I can the ones here pretending not to be. Like I would have rather seen the Eagles win but I wasn't a damn Philly fan tonight.
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1 minute ago, Asaria said:
I don't like Cali, but you don't see me talking trash about the people there, like really?
Historically the two couldn't be more different. Why choose California? Odd comparison.
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Just now, TheCasillas said:
It’s not a redline for me… I am just trying to help you with your social awareness around how you are setting up the image of yourself here. People aren’t gonna want to chat , debate with you or even reply to you with the way you are presenting yourself currently…
We talk cold hard trash about people from New Orleans for fun nobody bats an eye. Tell the truth about Missouri thems fightin words. I think some of ya'll have been rooting for the Chiefs too long. Enjoy the Super Bowl win guys.
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2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:
Really showing who you are as a person right now. Not the most favorable light.
Good to know telling the truth about one of our most backward states is a redline for you. See ya.
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Carr’s destination betting odds
in Carolina Panthers
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When the time comes you either take the risk or you play it safe. We've seen the results with bringing in other teams leftovers. Try a different approach.