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2 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

It is insane that Bryce has started as many games this year as he has and we most likely won't see him pass 3k yards.  Insane.

Makes it even more insulting that we cannot at all rule out that our FO will try and run it back with him and Andy Dalton next year.

8 minutes ago, Panthering said:

 

 

I'm iffy on Canales. But that bluntness is welcomed.

Odds are it will probably will follow the usual pattern from this season. Squeak by the Bucs then go to the playoffs and get completely smoked.

Tillman and Norman were good but it was short lived.

Chris Gamble quietly did his thing and largely held his own for a long time. He did play in a different era though. Maybe Jaycee should call him up and pick his brain. Either way. We need guys like that again. I do think Mike Jackson all things considered has been quite impressive.

Jaycee is a player who is easy to root for. Local roots. Good for the locker room. Certainly talented. But unfortunately things go beyond just being a physical corner. Maybe these awful perfomances from our offense are wearing him down. In that regard I cannot say I blame him. These guys are human after all. Regardless he isn't worth the contract we gave him. It is what it is.

I don't honestly think it mattered which QB we drafted at that point in time because Matt Rhule made it abundantly clear he wanted no parts of attempting to develop a rookie QB. He fed Corral to the wolves that preseason.

There is no timeline where Bryce Young will ever be a top 7-10 QB. He has virtually no physical tools and he needs elite talent and perfect conditions across the board AND the other team falling flat on their face for him to have a "career day".

There's just no valid reason to continue to afford a QB with 44 career games this many excuses. Never seen anything like it. Even the Kyle Allen mania was a brief blip on the radar. It seems like some people here will be thrilled if he is sinking our salary cap on a new contract extension and still playing the same way. Makes absolutely no sense but it's where we're at. Can't reason with that. Sheer lunacy.

In general I have been indifferent to you despite the Patriots fan stuff and generally flaunting your wealth but this bit is not hitting the mark and it isn't you.

Besides. Looking down on other fans and basically blaming them for our woes to me definitively fits the bill of "beta" behavior more than anything else here. This is not a perennial contender. Nobody needs to be going around with their chest out drawing lines in the sand. Give it a rest or take a break.

I think we all agree Xavier Legette leaves A LOT to be desired on the football field. We also agree that Canales is certainly with faults on his own on multiple fronts.

That being said. Some folks are very unnecessarily going into overdrive to spin a #1 pick who just happens to be the most undersized QB in the league (yes he is shorter than Kyler Murray let's just be real here) finishing with the lowest single game passing yardage per 24 attempts since all the way back to 1980.

Legitimately if some of you ARE NOT on Tepper's payroll you should be.

30 minutes ago, acwimby24 said:

I honestly have no clue why people defend him so much. I remember Cam getting absolutely raked over the coals for a game infinitely better than whatever I watched today

Exactly standards that used to matter suddenly don't.

The acceptable bar for a #1 pick has gone from the expectation of a meteoric rise to outright shoeshining and caping for a guy just because once in awhile he does something 31 other starting NFL QB's can do and that's when he isn't looking like complete dogshit more often than not. And yet if you point this out. YOU are the problem in the eyes of some. If it sounds like a cult. That's because it is.

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

19/21 for 256 yards and 5 TDs is a crazy stat line

The Jets are the Jets yes. But this Bryce Young led offense LABORED just to score one touchdown against that team. Bryce had 138 passing yards.

13 minutes ago, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

Didn’t watch his presser but did anyone ask him about the decision to dump it off at the end of the half instead of at least trying to score points with a Hail Mary from the 50? If we can’t throw deep desperation heaves nor attempt 4th and inches with our starting QB, he probably shouldn’t be a starting QB. 

44 (yes that's fourty four) games into his career it should be very firmly established and settled knowledge that we are very very limited from all angles with Bryce Young as our starting QB.

1 minute ago, Dragoon11 said:

I'm not advocating for his firing. This is the best the Panthers have been in a long time. We are trending upward. Just talking about the game plan on offense today. Did we EVER think Rico was going to run for 200 yards today against Seattle's defense?

I don't want Canales fired but he's definitely opened the door to a fair amount of skepticism and criticism for some things.

As far as Rico Dowdle goes I was thrilled with how well he had been playing earlier in the season but I questioned the sustainability of it myself. And it was by no means the first time a lesser known RB came out of nowhere and put up great numbers. It's why the position is so plug and play now. And we see Chuba has came back down to Earth as well following a very productive season last year. And the elephant in the room is it took the Panthers having the highest paid OL in the league in order for both of them to put up the numbers that they did.

In terms of the lack of running game all around right now it leads to not just a question of the gameplan and the playcalling but to a question of how do we establish the run anyway with such a pathetic passing game? I mean that's a basic building block of modern football. You pass to setup the run and vice versa. We need to see this offense with a QB who isn't Bryce Young or Andy Dalton.

38 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

shough keeps it up panthers gonna be in trouble for many many years

Shough had 279 more passing yards than Bryce Young today and he only threw the ball 3 more times than Bryce did. Incredible.

6 minutes ago, Dragoon11 said:

I like this take, there's certainly a good amount of blame to throw at Bryce, I give you that. But look at when we got that fumble in the first half. We had the ball inside the red zone or close. Canales runs Rico and he gets 8 yards. So 2 and 2 at around the 8 yard line. Then, Canales doesn't even take one shot at the end zone. We run it two straight time into the strength of Seattle's defense. Was a moment in the game to TAKE the momentum. Seems sometimes that situational awareness is lost on Canales. And how much did we even try to stretch the field today? Not counting junk time. Stop being afraid to turn it lose! Yes, Seattle one of the best defenses in the NFL. BUT, how much of the 56 total passing yards were just schemed that way? At least we could know for sure if it's MORE Bryce than coach.

I cannot make this more clear. We can fire Canales we can fire Evero we can fire the entire staff and start all over from scratch....again. But no coach alive or dead is going to be able to change Bryce Young's physical limitations. All of these issues revolve around the fact that he is NOT a franchise QB.

Even if we somehow beat the Bucs win the division and get in the playoffs everyone knows how the playoff game is going to go. So far the pattern under the Bryce Young Panthers is pretty fuging clear. It will just end in yet another embarrassment.

12 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Actually Jimmy's lowest yardage total playing a full game was 59 yards 

At least Jimmy got us Cam Newton.

We gave up TWO #1's for this trashcan.

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

Isn't his dad a psychologist?

Yes and him being the son of a psychologist was an oft used reasoning before the draft for why he was years ahead of his age in football IQ leadership and handling the day to day pressure of being an NFL starting QB.

It is simply hysterical how narratives change.

I've been iffy on Canales for awhile now. I think we need to explore all options for a possible upgrade at HC in the offseason.

All that being said. This is the second head coach we are throwing under a bus when Bryce Young has played absolutely abysmal football and he is heading into his fourth year as a starter. We need a new QB room before we can really know what the potential of this team is. I think guys on the team do legitimately like Bryce Young but when he plays like this and his faults become so glaringly visible it has to take the wind out of everyone's sails and create a domino effect. At the end of the day when the #1 pick and third highest paid player on the roster can play that horrifically why should anyone else care much less risk themselves to injuries.

He is unfortunately a liability and not worth being the 3rd highest paid corner in the league. No matter how much we might like him personally that's just a sobering reality people are going to have to face. And his salary cap hit is only going to balloon over the next few years.

These people on social media with these blind mice level takes on Bryce Young at this stage in his career are either outright stupid trolling or just looking for attention. Either way a very sobering and sad reflection on the intelligence of the average American.

15 minutes ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

Yes finally everyone has realized what most of us have been screaming play the top of our lungs!

Thank God the reaper is dead!

That Carolina Reaper moniker is cringe overload.

Well I guess we might not be hearing from MrBdawg for awhile.

The Tepper era Panthers.

Just now, TLGPanthersFan said:

I hope it is like Shanahan with the Niners. Even when the made the SB they kept looking because they knew Jimmy G was not the future. I hope the team is smart enough to realize Bryce is not the future. 

At this point I think they are hellbent on saving face.