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29 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

 

 

guess youz guyz missed this new hire.....

 

 

I vaguely remember hearing about this. Briefly perused a sub reddit about him. He worked for Pro Football Focus. And apparently he had some past takes about our starting QB. I don't know how much to value knowledge from guys like this who really aren't all that different from the average sports bettor in terms of insight. I guess maybe he can help?

https://www.reddit.com/r/panthers/comments/1cnfusn/person_panthers_plan_to_hire_sumersports_vp_eric/

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

It is very funny how obvious we are.

It's almost like things don't actually change despite firing and hiring other people. But we've been assured our owner is hands off now so that couldn't be.

4 hours ago, Icege said:

Translation: He hates Bryce Young

You say this about literally almost everyone. It's boy who cried wolf.

I belly laughed at comparing Cam Newton to Eric Reid. One tranformed the entire franchise one was barely a blip. Thanks for the laugh.

15 minutes ago, csx said:

We better not base our decisions on PFF grades.

https://ras.football/ras-calculator/

I'm not thrilled at the fact Dan thinks wheeling and dealing is his forte. He needs to be less focused on acquiring more picks and more focused on actually identifying legitimate talent.

16 hours ago, TD alt said:

 

I mean, most receivers don't necessarily break out their rookie season. It wasn't a good year, including injuries, and it may have dampened excitement, but didn't snuff it completely out, at least probably for most people.

My response was more about the general state of our offensive weapons outside of RB. I've been one of the few people that still have relatively high hopes for XL. That being said. Our most reliable receiver is a guy who let's be honest is just a JAG at this stage at the tail end of his career and has less YAC ability than a sloth in quick sand. Maybe I'll feel more optimistic after the draft with the right WR addition. We'll see.

1 hour ago, CRA said:

I largely remain a fan of not trading up nor down in drafts.....and just using your picks to draft the best player. 

Almost every time they go up or down I feel they lose more times than not. 

100%.

Trying to get cute is the last thing we should want this FO doing right now because they are trash at it.

13 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

"We're excited about the development of Xavier [Legette] and Jalen Coker and some of our young guys," he replied. "So with [Adam] Thielen still in there, re-signing David Moore—I think we do feel good about our receiver room. We're looking forward to seeing them compete and just get better and better.

 

"Let's trade Moton"

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Brother, there is no BY haul for a #8 pick. That is pure delusional thought.

 

Yeah when the Chicago Bears are a more well run organization there isn't anything left to say. And this after the recent things I've read about the Bears from former players only adds salt to the wound.

Still. I hope those fugers flounder. Yeah I'm petty

1 minute ago, AceBoogie said:

fug that. Respectfully. If I paid a billion dollars for a team and I want my team to draft Shedeur then that’s what I’m demanding.  This is my toy not yours. 

Milquetoast David Tepper who couldn't handle a mildly outspoken Cam Newton without unceremoniously jettisoning him to the shadow realm would never sign off on Shedeur Sanders. He mortgaged the future of the team to draft the QB who was as far away from being like Cam he could find. Might as well wake up from your dream and stop simping bud.

17 hours ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

New information obtained by WBRZ says Lacy was arguing with a family member shortly after 11 p.m. Saturday. He reportedly pulled out a gun and shot it at the ground before leaving the area.

About 30 minutes later, a constable spotted Lacy driving and attempted to make a traffic stop. Deputies said Lacy refused to stop and was chased for several miles before crashing.

A report from the Harris County Sheriff's Office says that when deputies walked up to Lacy's vehicle to take him into custody, they didn't realize he shot himself during the pursuit and before the crash.

The WBRZ Investigative Unit reported that Lacy was set to appear before a grand jury on Monday connected to a fatal crash in Lafourche Parish. He was arrested by Louisiana State Police in December 2024. Troopers said he was speeding and driving across the center line in a no-passing zone on La. 20, causing a wreck that killed 78-year-old Herman Hall. Lacy was arrested and booked for negligent homicide, felony hit and run, and reckless operation of a vehicle. He bonded out less than two hours after being booked. 

Unstable mental state and a firearm. Not a good combination. Unfortunately this is a very distinctly American storyline.

27 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Drafting a position we've never drafted in the 1st round in franchise history feels "panthery"?

Safety over DL with a top ten pick and a huge need for defensive linemen lines up with how David Tepper's Panthers have tried to build rosters.

Two lives lost for no reason. Something has to give with the state of American drivers on our roads sooner or later. Too many idiots who don't need one are getting a license and driving like aggressive asshats and half of them are in overpowered muscle cars they also don't need.

37 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Can't speak for others, but me and stats aren't on speaking terms.

There's just too much bullsh-t (like Phil Snow's #2 defense a while back).

I definitely understand that. It's an unfortunate result of fatigue from going on now 8 years of losing seasons consecutively. Hopefully we're on the verge of something better.

2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Well That was a very small number and i was one of them.

I was too. I bought his talk of being a leader heading into 2023 and was excited as well. Ultimately that and the hype never amounted to a hill of beans. We got bamboozled. That man is sitting on what should be generational wealth now. He's doing just fine I assure you. Let's just hope Dan Morgan and Brandt Tilis are better equipped to identify talented defensive linemen who are also motivated to win.

2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

i think its funny how Burns was considered an overrated limited player on here for so long to now other players dont have a higher ceiling then him.

Idk man for a long time there were people who gave Burns the benefit of the doubt. I think really it's about learning and adapting going forward. We already can't draft worth a damn. If we're targeting pass rushers we need to reconsider past approaches and try something different so we don't keep ending up in the same conundrum.

Not sure Panthers fans are the right folks to be drawing a line in the sand over using obscure stats out of thin air to prop up a QB. I seem to remember a lot of that last year.

11 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

And he is not even close to the talent Burns was.

9 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

Higher ceiling than Burns IMO. Already a better run defender and if he cam develop as a pass rusher he surpasses Burns easy 

43 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think he has a higher ceiling than Burns at all. It's just that Burns very obviously never reached his ceiling(nor likely ever will).  

Truthfully, Burns was a considerably better prospect than every DE/EDGE in this draft, to say nothing of an OLB guy like Walker. I do think people forget how amazing Burns was on tape coming from FSU.

But, in a tale as old as the NFL itself, there are ample players that have elite tier physical ability that can never fully realize that same elite potential.

See Shemar Stewart for a likely strong candidate in this draft to fall victim to this same scenario.

His biggest issue was buying into his own hype. It didn't help he had his brother in his ear at every turn building him up even when he was disappearing out there on the field and stinking up the joint. But they got what they wanted. The big payday. That was more important to Brian that cementing his place as an elite pass rusher amongst his peers.

But listen let's get down to it here. Regardless of how one feels about Mykel Williams or any other DL prospect maybe we should consider an alternative measuring tool going forward for our historically bad defense that isn’t defined by just being marginally better than Brian Burns. I'm just saying.

1 minute ago, XClown1986 said:

Brian Burns not being a 10+ sack guy a year and being a run game liability is why we were smart to let him walk.

Williams is an asset in the run game Day 1. No question.

Burns had a big ego on top of it all. Legend in his own mind.

I'm certainly very intrigued by Mykel as a prospect it's the notion that we are rolling the dice on a top 10 pick with only the hope that he can become a force as a pass rusher.

That being said I'm certainly more upbeat about the possibility of Mykel Williams honing his craft than I am someone like Shemar Stewart. But who knows with our Panthers. We continually seem to make the wrong decision.

5 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

My only concerns are his ability to become a 10+ sack guy a year.

Shades of Brian Burns.

7 minutes ago, Prowler2k18 said:

Yeah but he’s 64-of-78. I think we can get a more accurate kicker than that.

Possibly. He's comparable to Pinero in overall accuracy but I don't think we can understate just how useless Eddie has been in long situations we basically all but waved a white flag if it was more than a 45 yard attempt and even that was iffy. Whereas the kicker in question here at least has a proven history of making those 50+ yard kicks. I'm not trying to argue we should limit ourselves certainly we should consider multiple options. But long range has been an issue for us for some time now.

21 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Iants carr is having shoulder issues, putting his 2025 season in question per Mr. wow

 

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1910799563134292007

 

That Panthers #8 pick just got a little juicer ...

Every time I look at this division I just laugh and cannot understand why we continue to stumble around and end up in last place. Even with our needs there's no reason we can't compete for this division in the sorry state it's in.

Depends on who is available. DL should be the pick. But a case can certainly be made for offense depending on how the first seven picks fall.

2 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/mysportsupdate/status/1910372185740288344?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

Panthers still need a PK

No reason not to kick the tires.