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7 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Hindsight is 20/20. Darnold was playing under Adam Gase and there were a lot of teams that were willing to take a chance on him. The 49ers were rumored to have offered a 1st round pick for him (who knows if that is true). The Panthers did pay a little bit of a steep price, maybe a 3rd would have felt a little better, but I didn't and still don't disagree with taking a chance on Darnold. 

What I really disagree with was picking up his 5th year option without him playing a down for the team. And also passing on Justin Fields or Mac Jones. Having Darnold battle it out with a rookie was the right call. 

I have to think Joe Brady's amateur-esque offense had a hand in not drafting a rookie QB. A rookie needs development and Joe Brady's offense wasn't flexible enough to cater to a rookie. Who knows how well McAdoo will do developing a QB, but he can't be any more reluctant or inexperienced than Joe Brady was.

On 10/26/2021 at 8:32 PM, Waldo said:

 

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6 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Trading for Darnold was not a bad idea. Picking up his 5th year option was a HORRENDOUS idea.

It was all a bad idea. The Jets knew what we damn well should have. But instead we had people who thought they saw Matt Stafford in him.

1 minute ago, SizzleBuzz said:

 Either buckle-up or bail-out...

(but definitely stop whinging )

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

A couple bad shots and once again rebounding did us in. Is Gordon ever going to play again? Feels like Deja Vu from last season probably losing in the play ins

Gordon is 32 on his third team with the same storyline all over again.

2 hours ago, poundaway said:

I'm angry at you Mr Billionaire!   You should have to face the music and listen to my bitchy complaints because I know the football stuff better.

Oh geez now we've got two billionaire knob polishers on this site

These refs are garbage. Of all the things I've seen an NBA player ejected for and the things I've seen players that weren't ejected for that is ridiculous.

11 minutes ago, poundaway said:

The huddle when we found out he won't fire Rhule.  Post after post, thread after thread.....

One of Matt or Dave's relatives huh?

8 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Settling for less is what got us Sam Darnold, please get a grip and understand the Panthers are a long term rebuild

Uh no. What got us Sam Darnold was the front office was scared to draft their own QB and instead negotiated against themselves and traded for another teams already chewed up and spit out failure without even watching his gametape. If you don't want one in this draft that's fine but using Sam Darnold to justify it is going over a ledge to make a point.

Just now, ImaginaryKev said:

This ain't true at all, people are actually looking at talent level and productivity in college and aren't impressed by the QBs this year. 

And the consensus on those next year quarterbacks will change with the wind just like it did with this years class. No one can predict how they will perform and how that will affect their draft stock there is plenty of time left for things to change positively or negatively. Rest assured if we do not draft one this year these same takes will be prevalent before next years draft too.

Just now, MHS831 said:

Here is what I do not understand about all these people calling these QBs hot garbage---

Compare Pickett to Mac Jones coming out of Bama--do you pick Jones?

Compare Willis to Trey Lance--what makes Lance worth the #3 overall pick and Willis a second rounder?

Compare Corral with Fields--is Fields really that much better, considering the weapons he had at Ohio State?
 

What makes these three (this year) not first rounders and everyone was screaming "Best QB class ever" just last year?

Some of the next year folks just have a QB they are in love with and won't let it go. Everyone has some form of bias in these QB draft discussions it's the same thing every year. But it's funny to watch those with the loudest takes flail about like no one can see it and their opinion is so highly regarded. There will be busts this year there will be busts next year. Take your shot and move on.

In a trade down scenario yeah you take a look and consider options he would be one. Not having a 2nd really blows. Even worse we one upped ourselves and shipped off our 3rd

I can't say I personally need to hear from him. But if he hadn't pulled a 180 from being a total chatterbox and interacting with the fans as often as possible to being on a "have you seen me?" poster there wouldn't be much said about this.

14 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

49'ers:

2015 > 5-11

2016 > 2-14

2017 > 1-10 w/o Jimmy G.

2018 > 3-10 w/o Jimmy G.

2020 > 3-7 w/o Jimmy G.

'17/'18/'20 > 7-27 (.206) w/o Jimmy G.

'17/'18/'20 > 9-6 (.600) w/ Jimmy G.

'19/'21 > 27-12 (.692) w/ Jimmy G. fully available, includes a Super Bowl and 2 NFC Championship games, as well as multiple playoff wins against Whiny Aaron.

Jimmy G. is the epitome of a difference maker...

...the anti-Darnold if you will, like diametric opposition

After all your shitposting over QB's for months on end you're really a Stan for Jimmy Garoppolo of all people.

16 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Agreed.  For whatever reason you don't like JImmy G.  He's a winner.  If we could get him on a reasonable contract, what is your holdback?  So we draft a rookie, do any of you actually believe that ANY of these rookies are ready to start?

 

Hmm 30 year old QB with a banged up shoulder who has underachieved with a loaded roster and one of the best young head coaches. What could go wrong?

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Tell that to the Mac Jones GOAT crowd.

Fug that guy something tells me there will be some defenders looking to give him the business next season.

40 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You need to wait at least 2-3. After just a year, last year's super strong on paper QB class ain't looking so hot 

Lance was always talked about as a project. Lawrence ended up with disaster Meyer and Fields got stuck with a recently fired head coach himself too. Wilson had a little better luck with the Jets and they somehow have a better QB room than us and they have our draft picks. I don't see how we are in any position to hold our nose at any other rookie quarterbacks considering how scared we are to draft one of our own but go off if it makes ya'll feel better.

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

There is no Herbert in this draft. This will be lucky to have an Andy Dalton.

It will be a fun convo to revisit a year from now.

3 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

Yeah because you know these qbs in the draft are going to be any good. Nobody knows

Well yeah it goes both ways. Just bc the huddle geniuses that absolutely hated Justin Herbert btw think every QB in this draft is a bust from day 1 doesn't mean they will be.

1 minute ago, hepcat said:

Everyone saying “not interested” must be down with seeing Sam Darnold lose double digit games again, or overdraft a Teddy Bridgewater clone because the coach recruited him out of high school.

Yea we don’t want to sign a guy who has played in the Super Bowl and was in the NFC Championship last year. Nah. Let’s not even consider it. Even if he was a reasonable contract and not giving up any assets to do it. Wow what a horrible idea that would be. I’d much rather have Sam Darnold!!!! Because I like rooting for losers.

Why are you this emotional over Jimmy fuging Garoppolo lol. We don't have a stacked roster nor do we have Kyle Shanahan. Draft a QB if need be.

And no we don't want him!

Omg just use an adblocker people this isn't AOL online welcome to the year 2022 join us we have technology.

Cody Terry and now Miles with dagger threes. Need more of that clutch basketball from the group we are playoff starved in the QC.

7 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Here’s Melo’s chance to put the team on his back and will them to a win.

Not up to the 20 year old to drag these dudes kicking and screaming. Gotta stop taking bad hero ball shots and committing dumb fouls. This has been the Hornets M.O. all season.

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

I went to the store 10 mins and we're ahead now?