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On 6/10/2025 at 7:37 PM, Mr. Scot said:

Footnote from Indy...

 

That and oxy.  

How many new starters will we have on defense?  That could be a good thing given how bad the D was last year, but it could also take some time for them to gel. 

She gotta a bertiful spirt.

I guess it is him. Can't wait for the video.  

I feel like Jalen Milroe is this year's Anthony Richardson, but he was drafted in the third round with no plans for him to start his first year. He has a much better chance to make it.  They thought AR was going to learn to pass in the NFL by being a staring running qb who cannot keep a defense honest.  It should not be a surprise that he is struggling and picking up injuries.  

10 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I get the XL pick, and I get the Brooks pick in round 2

I hope our first two picks do better in year one than those two. I was surprised we prioritized a rb over s considering the Brooks pick and the rico fa agency pick up. I'm glad they were true to their board and got their guys. Could be a great draft.

14 hours ago, MHS831 said:

The Rams gave us that opportunity.

The Rams didn't have a second round pick and would have to give us something in '26 so i don't blame the coaches who need to win sooner rather than later.  

9 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Ask yourself this:  In the Panther system, is it possible that Scourton would be a better edge than Walker?  I think he is a better fit.  Princely?  Better fit.

Walker and the other edge rushers would have been a bad pick at 8. The real question is whether we should have traded back. 

Ramsey feels a little like Clowney. A vet who was not at his peak but still added a lot of value and a little bit of baggage.  That just isn't in our short terms plans.  

The NCAA blew it.  I wouldn't be surprised if the SEC and Big Ten drop the NCAA and form a super league:

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In an unreported and little-known fact, SEC presidents in March quietly authorized their commissioner, Sankey, to split from the NCAA if he deems that the right move.

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/article/with-college-sports-in-limbo-and-key-issues-coming-to-a-head-the-spotlight-is-on-the-sec-its-going-to-get-heated-130018106.html?guccounter=1

That would at least allow the ACC and others to get back to being universities first.

Where is the Panther interest coming from? I am seeing Cowboys, Rams, Ravens, Eagles. I doubt the Dolphins would take a 5th, and I think Ramsey would prefer those other teams.

Risk: locker room cancer. Reward: past his prime cb helps a little bit on D.  Not worth trading away our 3rd round pick for that.  

3 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Why anyone cares about draft grades before any of them play is beyond me simple click bait.

 

 

It's May. What else is there to talk about? 

On 4/29/2025 at 6:41 PM, Basbear said:

Man Thor Nystrom does not hold back.  Two F's? Detroit looks bad. Charges did well w/ Hampton and Harris and then not so goo.  

After watching our front office negotiate with Horn, does anyone really doubt Bryce will get a bag in '26 (or would we risk pushing that out to '27)? We used back to back first round picks on wr's and retooled the oline for him. 

50 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

2021 has ended up being one of the better drafts we've ever had

Wait until this thread comes up next year for the 2022 class (Ekwonu, Barno, and Mays the only ones still on the team). 

Against it.  I get that some teams have an advantage because they are in a bad division but some teams have an advantage because they end up with a really weak strength of schedule (or end up facing teams w/ injured players or resting players for the playoffs).  Let's face it, NFL teams fluctuate a lot from year to year and we won't know the strength of the schedule played until the end of the season. Why should second place in the NFC East trump first place in the NFC South if the East team had an overall easier schedule?

Is it love when they say you reached for pick number 22 at 8? 

18 hours ago, 45catfan said:

So everyone that had us taking Williams or Walker are clowns?

Those are bad picks at 8.  The draft grade depends on how you view TMac. We viewed him highly (that scares me since our scouts appear to suck at wr eval.). Taking Walker or Williams would have been bad at 8; one was injured for a whole year and the other was a tweener.  The move was to trade back. However, if we broadcast we wanted to move up as a smoke screen (which we did) then those trade back offers would have been weak.

The early rumors were T-Mac to us, but the staff did a great job subtlely playing that down so then the speculation turned to Jalon Walker. Carolina needs an edge and why not an edge/ilb? My guess is we were haggling w/ the Rams and 49'ers when the Jets took Membou.

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

 

The majority of NFL draft picks don't play all too many snaps lined up directly across from another NFL player, and I don't think many people really realize this.

Unless you play a game against one of the 2-4 schools that are putting half their lineup into the NFL each season, most teams who have multiple draft picks, MIGHT only have 2-4 draft picks in any given season.

Some skill positions get around 30 players drafted each year, other positions are in the teens to low 20's.  With at least a handful of them coming from non power conference schools too.  So the odds for any WR or CB to get too many games lined up directly against another future draft pick is pretty low.

The better odds are that they get lined up against a future NFL player, i.e. a junior or senior WR getting lined up against a freshman or sophomore DB who will get drafted in a couple of years.

Then if you take it one step further and look for players who actually play in the NFL and make a difference.   You're basically looking at players drafted in the first 3 rounds of the draft, so a little less than 100 players a year, spread out across all the positions and conferences (which in today's massive conferences, teams have even lower odds of player the teams with more NFL players than ever before).

Unless you are in the SEC.  Will Campbell got to play against Kyle Kennard (USC), Princely Umanmielen (Ole Miss), Landon Jackson (Ark), Shemar Stewart and Nick Scourton (A&M), Jalon Walker and Mykel Williams (UGA). And those are just the edge rushers not the DT's. The SEC had 79 picks vs. Big 12 31.

3 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

I think we hit it out of the park. The Falcons sold the farm to get 2 pass rushers and I can see a path where ours are just as good or if not better 

I was a fan of Jalon Walker until I started to think about how to use him.  

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"On 1st and 2nd down, I want, especially Jalon, to really have an opportunity to just master playing on the edge because I think there's something there that's really special," Ulbrich said. "Give him an opportunity just to have one home initially and become as good as he can at that.

"Then, from a third down perspective, we can get creative with him and that'll be part of his superpower."

 

SI

I would be worried about how he is going to defend run plays and bigger more athletic linemen in the NFL as an Edge.  Pearce is intriguing. Needs to add some weight but the guy is extremely athletic with a high ceiling. Trading away your first rounder for a guy with character concerns is risky, but I guess they did their homework. 

15 hours ago, Captain Morgan said:

Last year was not so much but if Legette grows, and if Brooks can get healthy and stay that way, and Sanders develops, it was a good draft.  But I just feel different this year, more confidence than ever, but it's that time of the year....every fan of every time is feeling better about who they pull for.

Last year's draft sucked. I get it has just been a year but trading up after six wr's were already taken was stupid as was trading up to take an injured rb.   

Sophomore to senior in one year? What happened to being a junior? I think a 20 year old three year starter with limited injury history and a great year at Purdue is likely to succeed.  

We keep having to utilize high draft picks to make up for mistakes.  WR #8 McMillian to cover mistakes Mingo and XL; RB #111 Trevor Etienne to make up for mistake Jonathan Brooks. 

On 4/27/2025 at 1:04 PM, TheBigKat said:

He’s going into this season with no true competition for the #1

 

we have invested a fortune in a competent O-line

bonafide #1 RB

solid TE

Arguable top 10 slot WR in Theilen

back to back 1st round picks in WR

a OC minded HC

 

this IS his make it or break it year

Don't forget we spent a lot of draft capital in taking Mingo, Legette, and McMillian to give him wr weapons after we spent a fortune to make him the #1. I don't think he will ever live up to being a no. 1 pick but could turn into a serviceable starter.