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10 hours ago, thunderraiden said:

Aside from Drake London all these dudes are JAGs

Especially the qb's. The best qb from that class ended up being Brock Purdy Mr. Irrelevant.  

12 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

Jeanty to the Jaguars is starting to pick up legitimate steam.  Vegas odds have dramatically increased, Brugler and a few others have switched him as their JAX choice at 5.  

Etienne was injured a lot last year and is only one year removed from a 1,000 yd season and they also have Tank Bigsby looking pretty good.  I feel pretty confident they take Mason Graham. I also like Carrol and the Raiders to take Jeanty.  Trading away our second round pick is going to sting because there is a huge difference between 39 and 57 where the former could land you one of the stud edges who fall (Green, Pearce, Ezeiruaku) and the latter would land you good not great prospects like (Landon Jackson, Tuimalao, or Princely).  I am ok with drafting bpa with the first pick rather than reach for Williams though. 

30 minutes ago, rodeo said:

PFF grade him as a linebacker which includes his coverage and run defense grades, which are terrible. Purely as an edge he grades out as one of the best (like 83.6 or something).

If we draft him we need to make him a full time pass rusher.

I think you got that backwards:

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Walker is a physically and athletically gifted player who presents box presence versatility as an off-ball linebacker. His anticipation and pass-rush profile in its current form are lacking for consistent impact in the NFL. He must improve how he approaches rushing the passer or his off-ball instincts to be worth a top-50 selection due to age and potential.

PFF

2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

So when Morgan said he was only interested in players with a lot of production in college, do you think that did not exclude Mykel? 

I think it (should) excludes Shemar Stewart but not Mykel especially if you buy the ankle injury story.  

24 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

heard this so many times. only time ive actually seen it is curtis samuel

I don't remember this problem in college. From his draft profile:

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Strengths

• Makes full use of his size and play strength in one-on-one battles.
• Owns his space and defender’s space when catch is contested.
• Magnificent timing and extension to snare throws up the ladder.
• Uses subtle hand fighting to create late landing space for the throw.
• Powerful hands create added catch security with or without contact.
• Sneaky burst gear propels vertical separation and run-after-catch speed.
• Capable combatant when asked to do his part as a blocker.

 

2 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

grandpa trumps the dad in this case haha

I am an Ole Miss fan. That mistake is unforgivable.  Cooper is his dad of course.  

34 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think their cap situation and aging players, coupled with who the fug knows what happens with Olave, then now they could be convinced to tear it to the studs and that takes a minimum 2 years at best.  No better time then doing it with a coach in his first year.  I can see this roster and rattler easily getting them a top 3 pick

Arch Manning to the Saints would be a interesting story. They almost killed his dad.  

That is a good looking first four. 

26 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't know if their new HC came onboard for a tanking effort.

And when was the last time the Saints decided to go into full rebuild mode? Seems like they are always convinced they are just a couple players away from a playoff spot.  I think other teams will be predicting they want a QB with the first pick whether that turns out to be true or not. 

I don't think we have the luxury of taking a RT with our first pick when we have so many needs on D.  Let's see how he does in '25 and go from there; we can extend or tag him.  He is 31 so it is time to start thinking about a replacement. 

The author has no inside information and is going off rumors like the Panthers might take a wr just not at 8 article.  It basically says nothing so you are covered if it doesn't come true. Trading back would be beneficially to a club with so many holes. Someone may want the OT's or RB or a QB so it is not beyond the realm of possibility. I don't like to trade back in mocks for 2026 picks but in reality that is not a bad proposition because this team is not ready to challenge in '25.  

I agree and he is certainly not ready to start right out of the gate, but people are talking about Milroe in the first round. That Saints' story is going to make teams that want a qb start to sweat. 

I watched every Ole Miss game this last year and i was never convinced Dart will be a productive starter in the NFL. Minshew might be a good comp.

I think both Sanders and Dart are going to be available at 8 and someone will trade with us to jump the Saints. Then again, the Saints have two 3rd rounders and two 4th rounders so they have draft capital to move up.

Isaiah Bond just turned himself into police for an outstanding sexual assault warrant.  Nice to not see him on our list of WR's. 

12 hours ago, SaltAndPepper said:

 

Assuming this is the way the draft goes and we can't trade down, who do we take at this point? 

Kind of crazy we can't trade down w/ Sanders, Warren, Tet, Jeanty still on the board. Our options would be Mykel/Green, Membou, Golden, Emmanwori.  Edge is deep but we pick pretty late in round two so depends on who you think is there then.  

Jeanty is the BPA on that list followed by Graham.  I would be fine with taking Walker in that scenario, though. 

I get your point that the owner(s) need to take a back seat, but I don't think it was their idea to trade up to take X in the first after all the tier 1 WR talent was off the board, or trade up to take a RB with a torn ACL in the second. The best thing the Teppers could do is to tell Morgan you are no long allowed to trad up for anyone.  

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Absolutely take that deal. According to the Consensus big board we could be looking at:

21: Mike Green Edge, Mathew Golden WR, Malaki Starks or Nick Emmanwori S

57: Jack Sawyer Edge, Princely Edge, Carson Swesinger LB, Alfred Collins DT, Elic Ayomanor WR.

74: Isaih Bond WR, Cam Skatteboo RB, Demtrius Knight LB

83: Shemar Turner Edge, Andrew Mukuba S, Jalen Royals WR, Cam Williams OT

111: Chris Paul LB, Tez Johnson WR, DJ Giddens RB, Billy Bowman S

and then we still pick 140, 146, 156,163....

It would fill all needs and then some.  

These so called character issues are left over b.s. rumors from Texas A&M when they lost a five star dline because they can't develop talent. Trade back and take in the low teens. 

Come get your boy at #8.  

I am an Ole Miss fan so i was surprised by the character red flag issues. I posted those on our college board and other fans don't remember them either. In reality, Kiffin was noncommittal on answers as to why Nolan did not return to games. That could be for injury, strategy, time off or all three.  The notion he went to five schools is ridiculous when he only went to two colleges (A&M and Ole Miss) and I don't blame him for leaving A&M.  I remember him playing hard and being a good teammate.  If Kiffin and the DC can give us assurances, this would be a great pick but probably later than 8 given the recent b.s. rumors and projections.  

39 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Past week of consensus mocks.

I would be fine with Jalon Walker at 8 in that scenario but would hope we get some good offers to trade back for teams wanting Sanders, Tet, or Warren. 

I like him, but he is small for the position, played in a conference with weaker competition, and he is currently at 32 on the consensus big board.  This draft is full of edge rushers so i hope we don't reach for one at 8.  He would be in the trade back and take an edge conversation though. 

What? Who are the top two rb's then? Jeanty will get picked by the Raiders. Pete likes to run the ball.