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1 hour ago, blackcat said:

They need to pull the plug on BY, but they'll give him the entire season to 'prove it'.  Besides, who the hell else is going to play QB?  Regardless of BY, nine rushing attempts combined for Dowdle and Hubbard is beyond comprehension.  Is DC really that bad or is he purposely doing this to prove to our dumbass owner that BY sucks?

The problem with replacing Bryce Young is we have to have a QB to replace him with. Dalton isn’t that guy. We have no other young QB on the roster we have been grooming to be a possibility. 
 

so the only options we have are free agency, draft or trade. So we are stuck with Bryce until the end of the year. Problem is we still aren’t guaranteed to find a replacement. The draft is a crapshoot and I don’t see any free agent QBs that look to be much of an upgrade.

we could trade for someone’s back up but I don’t think a lot of teams would want to give up their back up. Then there’s the cost, would you want to  give up a 2nd-3rd round pick for a back up QB?

Honestly I see us getting some other teams scraps and trying to make something out of it. Yes it’s worked before, for example Jake Delhomme, then we seen currently with Baker and Darnold.

Geno Smith is a player I think could be an option. He will have one year left on his contract after this season which should be easy to get out of or for raiders to release him. Hes worked with Canales and knows his offense. Hes an upgrade over Dalton for sure and Bryce  but he’s also capable of a lot of turnovers. The raiders offensive line is horrible right now so I feel like he isn’t nearly as bad as his stats show.

At the end of the day he’s just a band aid to a bigger problem we need to fix. 

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

hes about to get paid

https://overthecap.com/position/left-tackle

Yeah I’ve seen it. It scares me cause I hate investing a lot of money in a player. Too many variables, from injuries to them getting the bag and not caring anymore.

13 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think he will ever be more than a 3rd RB/special teams guy.

If we move on from Dowdle, we should definitely sign or draft a good NFL caliber RB.

I disagree but we will see. His brother is a good nfl RB, it’s in his dna. He played for a loaded Georgia team so his stats aren’t great but that’s because he shared snaps with other good RBs. Georgia has produced a lot of great RBs. Look at his scouting report, basically says while he doesn’t excel at any specific thing, he’s good at everything. Put him behind our offensive line and he should be able to produce.

I was always worried cause his strength was being a run blocker which isn’t what you want in your LT. I don’t think he’s the best LT at pass blocking but I think he’s good now. I just wonder if he’s worth paying top LT money?

Honestly I think Etienne is going to be our future Rb. Hes good at everything and has little wear and tear. Brooks is not only basically a rookie but also hasn’t played in 2 years which requires him to get into shape. I think there’s hope for him but the odds are low.

On 11/17/2025 at 5:39 PM, L-TownCat said:

Wow. This guy is hilarious. Funny thing is the falcons lost to a team in overtime that had a better record. They have good pieces on their roster and they are young. They just need to get rid of the Kirk cousins contract and find a qb or develop Penix. It’s not like they are the worst team with no draft picks or young talent for building blocks.

What’s funny is we were supposed to be bad this year anyhow. So losing any game isn’t really a big deal. the shock is we somehow have a winning record and only a game behind winning the division.

6 minutes ago, HPPantherzfan said:

What happened was Atlanta, he always plays well against Atlanta 

Doesn’t matter, the fact is he did it and it wasn’t just a few plays of anything questionable, he balled out.

I wonder if Bryce just didn’t have the confidence or Canales still had the training wheels on and was holding him back by limiting him to short passes?

Just now, mav1234 said:

we could ask the same question about a certain OLman...

Considering the injuries on the offensive line, I think it’s hard to complain about that considering we are down to our 3rd-4th string offensive linemen.

1 minute ago, rodeo said:

Have the plays been called for him to do that, or does Canales clam up with limited gameplans against winning teams? ATL has a pretty high-dollar secondary and Bryce shredded them.

It’s not like Atlanta has a bad defense either.

I went back and looked and they haven’t even given up 300 yards to a QB this season. The most I think they gave up was 255 to Drake Maye. Josh Allen only got 180 yards against them. So it’s not like Bryce just got lucky against a bad defense.

3 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Yup. Agree. Coker is just teh better option.

I know he probably had to get in game condition after being injured and missing many games but I think he’s found it. For some reason our coaching staff wants to use XL over Coker and I don’t get it.

So this has to make us question if Canales was calling players that limited Bryce’s passing.

Ive theorized that a lot of the play calling, not Bryce himself is the reason why we are not getting a lot of yards in the pass game. Lots of short/quick passes, focusing on the run game.

I feel like we changed the playbook/gameplan around this week and Bryce excelled.

you can’t say it’s cause Atlanta’s defense is bad because they weren’t giving up a lot of yards to Josh Allen and other Qbs.

Just now, mav1234 said:

Coker was open literally all day.  The tip to XL that may have been a TD otherwise, Coker is wide open for a walk in TD

Well it doesn’t matter how open you are if you aren’t going to catch it. Catching the ball has been an issue for XL. I want him to succeed and he does flash greatness here and there but his consistency isn’t there.

XL only caught 4 out of 8 passes too. Meanwhile Coker caught all 4 of his passes. Coker needs to be our #2. He’s more consistent than XL.

We invested a mid round draft pick on, he has experience with the team and we are loaded with injuries at that position. Nothing more than a depth piece.

So does this mean our play calling was holding Bryce back? I always felt like we focused on short, quick passes and the run game to take time off the clock which limited Bryce. 

How many times have we seen XL drop a ball, show no effort when the ball gets thrown to him? I think XL alone is to blame for a lot. Coker just came back and seems to be getting into game shape. So we really don’t have but one good WR to throw to.

Just now, Pantherxtreme said:

If he couldn't improve against the 1-8 Saints, I doubt we getting much improvement against the Rams, 49ers. Seahawks, Bucs teams coming up. 

While I do think the gameplan is to blame for some of the problems, for example you can’t expect Bryce to put up big yards when he is barely passing the ball 20 times. I also think we need to demote Legette and let Coker get his reps.

I do have a problem with giving up on a Qb after 3 years. Look at Alex smith for example, he was worse than Bryce but finally put it together in about 5 years. It takes some player’s time to develop. I say let Bryce play and then we decide what to do with him at the end of the season. We have no young QB to replace him we and can’t expect to sign one off the street and start. 

2 hours ago, bandu said:

this teams recent success has had harldy nothing whatsoever to do with Bryce Young dazzling everyone with other worldly performances that's been the running game 

if anything Bryce Young is holding this team back ...just saying 

I know people will say that Bryce is clutch, he won us games in the fourth qtr, blah, blah, blah, but we wouldn’t even had been in losing position where we needed a score to win if Bryce had just played average.
 

We shouldn’t be thanking him cause he plays so bad for 95% of the game then finally has one good drive in the end.

We going down with Bryce. We want to give him every chance this year, hoping he can improve. If he doesn’t then we will probably move on

4 hours ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

To OP,

They have tried to "open up the offense" and let him sink or swim.  He sunk......quickly like a bag of fn rocks filled with cement.

When a QB lacks velocity and arm strength those down field throws that they were able to make in college against subpar CBs (even in SEC 99% CFB don't make NFL rosters) gets picked off.  Defensive pressures are different so Canales playbook is what is HAS TO BE. Check downs and pound the rock which I am fine with.  I Just don't want the BY supporting homers out there not giving Dowdle and the OLINE their due to fit their ridiculous narrative giving thinking the problem is the solution.

I am excited for when this team has an actual NFL QB and what this coaching staff can put together.  As of now they are doing the best with what they have IMO.  That is something that is promising once DM and DC find their QB 

I feel this isn’t fair. Bryce isn’t throwing a lot of INTs, he had a lower int % last year than Baker and many other starting quarterbacks and his rookie year he only ranked 16 in INT %. Then you have to consider some of the horrible WR play that led to INTs.

On 11/5/2025 at 6:54 PM, kungfoodude said:

He was terrible to start last year, he had a hell of a streak and then he got injured and never has really produced much since.

At this point, the good games appear to be the outlier. 

Evans has popped immediately and looks to potentially be our best TE on the roster. Give him more reps. Could backfire but what are we losing by reducing Sanders snaps?

I don’t know if people realize that Evan’s was one of the top TE prospects in college  before having some horrible injuries. I wanna say he had two major injuries in back to back seasons which limited his play and dropped his draft stock.

15 hours ago, electro's horse said:

finished 7-10 and missed the playoffs. 

Yeah but Wilkes took over after we already was the worst team in the league and had a winning record and took us from the worst team to around the 7th worst team and we did that with PJ walker as Qb for most of those games

20 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Give me Sam Howell and draft another one. Canales rehabbed Baker Mayfield to the extent that it got him a head coaching gig. Skill set and mentality wise, Sam Howell is basically Baker Mayfield.

I think Sam Howell has potential. He’s just turned 25 and has experience. He had a horrible offensive line in Washington and not really a good WR corp. I also wouldn’t mind Mac Jones or Trey Lance. I think Lance has potential too. Yes he looked bad in SF but he was very young and it can take a few years for Qbs to develop and the right system. I think we can give him another chance. I honestly want us to have a QB who could possibly be a full time starter and win for us,  Andy dalton isn’t that. Bryce could also improve but I rather be safe than sorry.