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There are some really, really solid late day 2, early day 3 LB prospects out there. Some pretty good coverage guys, some good pass rushers, some guys that can definitely make an impact on ST, etc. The money saved from Shaq alone could lead to two decent veteran FAs as well. I'm excited to see what the LB group morphs into. Will be especially important as well for helping the team run whatever base defense they want to go with that isn't Snow's 3-3-5.

77 the RT wouldn't have a future as a doorman let alone an NFL RT with the way he just allows folks into the back

Will Levis' stat line vs. Vandy? Woof. Do not want at all. Excited to see Max Duggan & Quenton Johnston vs. Texas!

Damn... sucks for DJack. Hope that playing on that hurt ankle didn't make things worse for him

Luvu isn't an FA until 2024

How is a QB supposed to look good when their OL consisted of: LT Dennis Daley LG Mike Horton C Cade May's RG Deonte Brown RT Austin Pleasants Not even prime Cam Newton could uplift that offense, and that's just the OL.

I've grown okay with the idea of gambling a 1st on Young despite his size, but I don't think any of the other QBs would be worth the swing. It's night and day compared to other prospects though how well he sees the field and goes through his progressions.

My favorite part about this thread is the amount of replies essentially saying, "Your math is right, but I have feelings."

Which circles us back to the issue of their not being a Cam in this draft class, but there certainly looks to be Gabberts and Lockers.

Stop wearing draft picks around him then

The LB group was one of the major question marks going into the season, but there are even bigger question marks next season when the team is sure to make Shaq Thompson a cap casualty ($11M in dead cap, but $13M freed up). That leaves the team with Frankie Luvu, Damien Wilson, and Brandon Smith as the only LBs remaining on the roster. Fortunately, there's a lot of veteran LBs set to be on the market in the offseason. Lavonte David, Kyle Van Noy, Denzel Perryman, Cory Littleton, Kwon Alexander, DEion Jones, Alex Anzalone, Raekwon McMillan, Leighton Vander Esch, and Roquan Smith are all potential free agents. This upcoming draft class is also quite talented at LB as well. Some of the current prospects of interest include: Jack Campbell (Iowa) Ivan Pace Jr (Cincinnati) Henry To'oTo'o (Alabama) Daiyan Henley (Washington State) Drew Sanders (Arkansas) Trenton Simpson (Clemson) Noah Sewell (Oregon) Justin Flowe (Oregon) Owen Pappoe (Auburn) Cedric Gray (UNC) What are some of your solutions to the potential problem at LB next season?

I think that the biggest bang for buck will be trading down. The best QB in this draft is 5'10" 190lbs. Even with a solid OL, that's going to be a big point of concern (especially for a team that's had injuries rack up at the QB position). If the team moved on from Burns, then yea go get Anderson but unless the team is looking to move to a 3-4 base I don't see it being a good fit. With all of the clamoring over the importance of picks for rebuilding after Burns wasn't traded, the lack of a clear #1 franchise QB, and the #1 player basically being a copy of our current premiere pass rusher, making a trade similar to what was made for Trey Lance would net the team those beloved draft picks and give the coach that "free year" with Matt Corral at QB to see what he's got (he'd be in the discussion for QB1 in this year's draft if he stayed for his Sr year). If he's ass trash, then there's ammo to move up to #1 for Drake Maye

So for an immediate 2nd the team loses their current leader in sacks, TFLs, and QB hits? Then two future firsts so that they can wait another season to potentially trade up for a QB? No thank you. No head coach worth their pay wants to come to a team with no players and a bunch of lotto tickets.

What good are those picks when we aren't going to get to use them for years? The Jets picked in the top 10 for the last 6yrs (once @ #11). Are you suggesting that the Panthers do the same in order to be able to use those picks from the Rams and have a 6-3 record? That's insane.

Jags, Jets, and Lions have been drafting in the top 10 since the Panthers last had a winning record. You can sell your house and use all of the money on Powerball tickets if you want, but that doesn't make it any less foolish.

Getting rid of two of the best players on the roster (one of them with a team friendly deal that's already been signed) at two of the most important positions in today's game for lotto tickets is silly and self destructive. Going to be hard enough getting a quality HC. Last thing the team needs to do is make it even harder by having nobody on the roster. Plus... the Rams? We're mad that we didn't trade for a 2030 & 2031 1st?

Oh poo, a call went our way

I wouldn't mind trading back for both of Seattle's 2023 1sts, one of their two 2nds, and their 2024 1st...

I liked Aqeel Glass as a day 3 pick-up... Now to wait and see if my current draft crush Max Duggan is gonna end up like Aqeel Glass or Tyler Linderbaum

Pickett, Willis, Ridder, Corral, and Howell were all being mocked in the first before going where they went in the draft. I don't think that you can hold being drafted in the 3rd round against him, especially given that he would likely be discussed as the #1 QB in this current draft class. Going back and watching Corral vs Young & Hooker in 2021 was fairly eye opening.

I'm all in with rolling with Corral next season for a multitude of reasons including if he sucks then the team has to throw everything, kitchen sink included, at being in position to draft Draft Maye.

Updated: 1. Matt Corral (Ole Miss) 2. Bryce Young (Alabama) 3. Will Levis (Kentucky) 4. CJ Stroud (Ohio State) 5. Anthony Richardson (Florida) 6. Max Duggan (TCU) 7. Grayson McCall (Coastal Carolina) 8. Hendon Hooker (Tennessee) 9. KJ Jefferson (Arkansas) 10. Bo Nix (Oregon) 11. Tyler Van Dyke (Miami) 12. Michael Penix Jr (Washington) 13. Jaren Hall (BYU) 14. Dorian Thompson-Robinson (UCLA) 15. Tanner McKee (Stanford) 16. Cameron Rising (Utah)

Even with those glasses, if you look at his performance in 2021 and compare it to QBs this season (as well as last season if you want to compare his film to the current top 3 when they were all playing), it's hard not to want to roll with him like you said. The dude would be the #1 QB this year if he had gone back to school. tbh, idk how anybody could watch the Tennessee game and come away thinking that it was on Levis. The team was down 30-6 and his OC called run-run-pass-punt. What did concern me about that game though was how Levis struggled to do too much. He's been let down by his team all season (omg the drops), but what's been especially troubling is how he didn't elevate the guys around him. With that said, he is the most "pro-ready, prototypical" QB. Runs an pro-style offense from under center that's a derivative of the Shanahan-offense, big body with a big arm, tough, etc... but is he a leader of men? He plays hurt, but does he inspire the team around him? I haven't seen that. Hard to argue against the fact that you could draft him late in the 1st and have a solid game manager to pilot a team. I don't see any guys in this draft that are top 5. Bryce Young's durability concerns alone push him down to the #15 range imo, and that's if a team is okay with letting him sit, learn, and bulk up for a year. Levis I can see being a late 1st like Pickett with the same issues: can distribute the rock but isn't going to take over games too often. Stroud I see as a 2nd round guy: either he develops and you roll with him, or he doesn't and you hit reset. Even though I'm the conductor of the Duggan hypetrain, I wouldn't touch him until the 4th round at the earliest. Would be a great day 3 pick-up to have as a developmental option behind Corral as they have similar playstyles, but I think our best bet is Matt.

If things hold and the Panthers are picking at #3, I can see Young/Levis going 1/2 to DET + HOU. Seattle is the next closest team to being in the market for a QB, and with the current #8 + #20 picks they could be a prime trade partner. Grabbing a top 10 + top 20 guy to come in and start at two spots would be a huge boost.

1. Bryce Young (Alabama) 2. Will Levis (Kentucky) 3. CJ Stroud (Ohio State) 4. Anthony Richardson (Florida) 5. Max Duggan (TCU) 6. Grayson McCall (Coastal Carolina) 7. Hendon Hooker (Tennessee) 8. KJ Jefferson (Arkansas) 9. Bo Nix (Oregon) 10. Tyler Van Dyke (Miami) 11. Michael Penix Jr (Washington) 12. Jaren Hall (BYU) 13. Dorian Thompson-Robinson (UCLA) 14. Tanner McKee (Stanford) 15. Cameron Rising (Utah) I've got to watch games still for the guys outside of the top 7, but I'll also say that if Matt Corral were in this draft class based on his 2021 game film alone I'd have him as QB1 on that list. For those interested in games watched so far: Bryce Young vs. Texas, Tennessee, LSU, Ole Miss, Ole Miss 2021 CJ Stroud vs. Notre Dame, Iowa, Penn State Will Levis vs. Florida, Ole Miss, Tennessee Max Duggan vs. Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Kansas, West Virginia Hendon Hooker vs. Alabama, Kentucky, Florida, Georgia, Ole Miss 2021 Dorian Thompson-Robinson vs. Washington, Utah, Oregon, Stanford Grayson McCall vs. Marshall, Old Dominion, Georgia Southern Anthony Richardson vs. Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Utah KJ Jefferson vs. Ole Miss 2021, BYU, South Carolina, Texas A&M Bo Nix vs. Georgia, BYU, Stanford, UCLA Tyler Van Dyke vs. UNC, Texas A&M, Middle Tennessee Jaren Hall vs. Oregon, Notre Dame, Arkansas Tanner McKee vs. UCLA, Oregon, USC, Washington Cameron Rising vs. UCLA, Florida, USC Michael Penix Jr vs. Stanford, UCLA, California Matt Corral vs. LSU, Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee (all 2021)