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  1. 1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

    I tried to tell people on Moehrig. I tried to tell y'all that he was a safety straight out of the '80s who was basically an undersized LB who can't cover his own shadow.

    I tried to tell people that Legette was a one year wonder in college bailed out by a super senior year that wouldn't have happened had it not been for COVID who wasn't a natural WR.

    I tired to tell people that Bryce had no NFL level physical tools and his style of play wouldn't translate to the NFL.

    To be fair, you also told us that Kawann Short and Shaq Thompson were JAGs but I also understand that the victory laps feel good when they happen. 😛

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  2. Ugh Cade

    I know his best OL + WR are out but at this point he's literally tripping over his own two feet.

    I was blown away seeing some of the first-round projections on him coming into this season.

    Still a looot of ball left to play tho. Hopefully he gets things moving. 

  3. 2 hours ago, Basbear said:

     

    Evero had me fouled about being one of best upcoming DCs. Im giving him until week 6 to show why he should last. If not for the LONG-TIME coverage skills of a healthy horn and MJ, its ultra scary to think they could be worst than giving up the most points in NFL history. 

     

    I have a feeling that the only hot seats this season are Evero's and Young's. Canales and Morgan likely get at least 3 years with year 3 being the year they get "their guys" should those two not pan out.

  4. 14 minutes ago, Basbear said:

     

    I honestly think the Jags had a upper hand due to Dave being the OC of TB 2 years ago and going to rival sparked TB to give insight into Daves play call sheet or/and playbook. Jags were prepared too well and seemed to be in the Panthers huddle for around 80% of the plays. Props to them, they are the better team.  

    Doesn't help that Coen beat up on Evero's defense pretty good last season both times. Looks (and sounds, according to TLaw) like he has the scheme figured out. 😮

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  5. 24 minutes ago, CRA said:

    You all over the map.   First you scoff at seam routes being hospital balls…despite the fact those are always routes QB have to be worried about throwing their WR into a hit. 

    now you are countering with the “you act like Renfrow is on IR” defense 

    and the “but how did he keep playing after that” defense lol

    it’s a hospital.  Simple.  You even got NFL QBs explaining it to you in real time with the all22 and telling exactly where Bryce need to put the ball and when.  

     

    You exclusively highlighted Hunter's name on the injury report and then immediately cast blame. I've pointed out that this wasn't the hospital ball you claim it to be while also acknowledging that there could have been another option to target instead of Renfrow.

    By everything you've expressed here, you don't think seam routes should ever be thrown. I don't know how that helps the already struggling offense, but I do know that it would make it even worse than it already is. Scapegoating never has and never will solve anything.

    Tell you what: Try not blaming Bryce or casting shade his way for the entire week after Arizona and instead look at the other 21 starters and assess what they're doing (again, without shading Bryce). I'll join you and refrain from exploring what the rest of the team is doing and will focus solely on what Bryce needs to do better. Deal? This is a sincere peace offering to allow us to explore the other's perspective and perhaps be even more informed football fans.

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  6. 36 minutes ago, CRA said:

    https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/dont-hold-your-breath-gronkowski-says-he-approaches-seam-routes-with-no-fear/381799/?amp=1
     

    Yeah, here is Brady, Gronk and the prime Patriots discussing the dangers and risk TE/slots face with seam routes.  

    you way too smart to be defending some of this bro 

    How did Renfrow get the rib injury and why wasn’t that classified a drop.  Go check the game day thread.  Entire board could ID that obvious one in real time. 

    You're acting like Bryce put him out for the game and the week when that play happened at 4:01 in Q2. Renfrow was targeted four more times after that. Plus, a hospital ball is a poorly placed pass that puts the receiver in a dangerous position to take a big hit by being late or inaccurate. 

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    Ball is out an on its way here. The catch is made at the 25yd line on the hash. Renfrow jumps for no reason and is airborne when he's hit. Bryce doesn't drift him over in front of the safety on the throw and as we can see from the capture that he had the right read.

    Could he have also waited a little longer for XL to pop up over the middle on the in route? You won't hear me disagree with that. Would have also likely netted more YAC than Renfrow would've considering positioning and momentum for both players. I like that option better than the one he took, but you're also not going to see me make 10 different threads about it like we've seen this week. 😮

    Also worth noting that while Renfrow didn't need to jump for that ball that he did run a beautiful route to get open.

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  7. 16 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

    Mainly because it's a QB driven league and our QB struggles to complete routine throws.

    It's a QB driven league, which means that all of the parts surrounding the QB have to be in order. No OL? QB isn't going to have time to throw or be able to hand it off. No weapons? Won't matter how well they play, can't catch it for them. Bad coaching? They're not the ones designing and calling plays.

    Football is one of the ultimate team sports. All 11 players need to be in sync rather than one player being dominant (imo). Hell, even with Tom Brady, not a single one of his rings came without a top-10 defense on the other side of the ball or a top-10 OL in front of him.

    I can understand people having lost patience with Bryce, especially starting off on the wrong foot for the third season in a row. That's not an issue. The issue I have is with folks being intentionally misleading and attempting to tell other posters what they're not allowed to talk about. Considering how often Red has claimed others have done this to him it is interesting at best, disingenuous at worst for him to turn around and do the same.

  8. 49 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

    Some of this was good offensive playcalling against our front (the 4 & 1 for example).  But interesting on that one it was our 3-4 personnel but we technically had 5 with hands in the dirt.  I wouldn't call that a 5-2 but it's what 3-4 teams do in these run commit scenarios.  So that playcall restricts us from having 1 more guy to be more fluid in space on the strong side, and we lose lateral containment.       

    Good job by our new safety to call it out presnap, but bad execution by Wallace and Jackson IMO.  Trevin with the error.  He saw the motion and shifted but took an initial angle towards the handoff not the anticipated location.  Bad field awareness.  So he was now behind and the Jags had 2 guys to engage Jackson & Moehrig on the outside.  Jackson just kind of sloppily engaged Strange.  

    Outside of that, one of the biggest things I'm noticing is a severe, and I mean severe, lack of presnap communication on our defense.  It just seems to be Moehrig.  He had some iffy angles this game but was far and away doing the most to get our guys in the right place presnap.  I think Moehrig is trying to do everything and then some so he's going to be caught out of place because of this. 

    Rozeboom and Wallace aren't doing that (and other things) which is a major concern.  Rozeboom took such a excessive first few steps in that last clip, he just gave the Jags a cozy opening to float in a completion.  You could see he was pissed. 

    The 2 ILBs in our scheme need to be communicators and quick decision makers.  Trevin has the quickness but not the awareness or decision making.  Rozeboom doesn't have the quickness and is just average/below-average.  

    We need help there if we want any sort of decent defense this season.  The line and OLBs have the ability to stop the run, but not when these 2 are making terrible decisions and allowing teams to play in the middle of the field. 

    If not for Jaycee blowing up the block intended for him and tripping up Dyami, that jet sweep might have ended up being a house call.

    The design and flow of Coen's play calling impressed me, especially with the way he was presenting different looks and using plenty of motion + misdirection.

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