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He'd have gotten concussed in Charlotte and then we'd be seeing people call him a wasted pick like Brooks.

They've got a puncher's chance, which is a nice change of pace.

Man... definitely missing him on the field for the Panthers this season. That concussion Jewell suffered going sideways jacked up the LB room pretty bad.

DAWG

2 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I didnt see it as whining about Bryce as much as asking is this year an anomaly in the 5 years Dan has been a part of the drafting process is it an outlier. There seems to be a lot of questions about whether or not repeating this type of draft is possible, and was it Dan, or bringing in a PFF guy that was ultimately responsible for the draft results. 

I wish I could gaslight myself into believing the same, but Eric Eager wasn't even mentioned until two posts before mine here on page five after the initial pivot to complain about Bryce on page one. Considering the views some of those involved have shared regarding PFF + Dan's involvement on Fitterer's team and... well...

Regardless of all of that, Nic Scourton looked really good against the Dolphins. He was setting the edge well and even looked decent in coverage when required to drop back. He was destroying the right side of the Dolphins' OL and even got the best of the LT on several occasions. Seeing what Nic's doing on the field is likely what Evero was hoping DJJ could develop into when they took him. The team also isn't using him as much on special teams (hasn't logged a punt team snap since week 2 but is still part of the FG blocking unit).

Completely different players and playstyles, but Scourton's motor and ability to remain constant while opposing OL start to gas out in the late game reminds me a lot of Charles Johnson.

 ......did it really take less than a page to turn a thread about Nic Scourton into whining about Bryce Young?

4 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Coker(GOAT)  coming back and hopefully XL getting out of his slump should help our offense.  BC at RG over Zavala looked like a nice upgrade on Sunday.  

So amped for Coker to come back, even if it means less Tremayne.

1 hour ago, t96 said:

It’s not even top 5 lmao

For Thielen? It absolutely is.

Which other seasons were better than 2017, 2018, and 2023 for AT?

52 minutes ago, t96 said:

Raw yards is a silly thing to look at, he had very very similar per game yards numbers in 2020 and 2021 but with 14 and 10 TDs (in 15 and 13 games), compared to 4 with us in 17 games. He barely cracked 1000 with us in 17 games despite being the clear #1 target for a team for the first time in his career and was under 10 yards per reception. In no way, shape or form was that a career year for him. Decent compiling for a WR his age but that’s it. 
 

Absurd to claim that was a career year and credit Bryce with giving him a career year lol

Having a top-3 season in his career at year 10 on the wrong side of 30 is impressive whether or not folks want to say it was the career year (but it'd certainly qualify as a career year imo).

47 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Those two years, that was dam near 1st team all-pro standards. He was unstoppable, I think he was close to triple crown one of those. Ace it happens....

2017 was even more impressive considering the Vikings had Case Keenum throwing to him for a majority of the season.

1 minute ago, t96 said:

Bryce debate aside, in what world did AT have a “career year” here? Lol

He hadn't gone for over 1000yds since 2018.

2017 + 2018 were his best two seasons but there's no question that 2023 was his third best season. Over 100 catches which he accomplished on less targets than when he had last done it. He also had his two highest catch % seasons with Carolina.

34 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I love this for him 

This x10000

Whether or not he ends up being "the guy" it's always good to see Panthers players having a good time and competing well enough to take the win.

Can't wait for Princely to get mic'd up.

18 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

https://x.com/theqbschool/status/1975643233284985066?s=46&t=W75E23VenL1ei42iX22E5g

I didn’t appreciate this throw enough in real time 

I wonder who's responsibility the free rusher was. JT thought it was on the RB due to TE + RG going hard left, but maybe it was an RPO?

Trigger Warning: Bryce Young

2 hours ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Holy crap that is a lot of throws outside the right hash by Bryce... Haven't paid attention to other passing charts, but I have to imagine if the same happened in those games, then opposing DCs are going to start prioritizing coverage to the right of the center.

TMac was on the right side the entire game outside of one play.

The other passing charts do not look like that. This was last week's:

For anybody else interested in passing/rushing/receiving charts: https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/player/bryce-young/YOU124763

16 minutes ago, CRA said:

I see the Bryce crew is back to trying to gaslight people into thinking Bryce was a good deep passer last year lol.  

to that, I would merely ask the Bryce crew to post the stat line for his plays 20+ yard down field last year.  It's on the board.   It's really bad.  Just like this year.  Just like his rookie year.   Not the PFF gaslighting.  We know you can all share the PFF thought. 

There is quite literally the exact same video evidence presented to you during the offseason.

Where is your compilation video? I'll wait.

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If Bryce was a good QB overall playing well this would be funny. As is, it's not something I get riled up about. As much as I don't want Bryce as our starting QB he really does come across as a genuinely good dude. When I first saw this clip I assumed Bryce was throwing it away but seeing that downfield camera able looking back at him the way he's watching the ball with anticipation I honestly think it was probably just an atrocious attempt at a back shoulder throw. He was watching that ball like he expected a play to be made on it, not with the disinterest of a ball intentionally thrown away.

5-wide out of the shotgun with 7sec left on the clock. There's enough time to either take a shot at the endzone or get it OOB.

Jimmy Horn Jr is 1-on-1 on the boundary side with three safeties standing on the GL. 3-step drop and throw.

At the time of the pass, JHj had the DB over top. Throwing for the endzone in that situation would be unbelievably stupid. The correct call based on the coverage and post snap action was to throw it away and kick the field goal.

If folks want something to poo on Bryce over, the fumble was atrocious and inexcusable.

Speaking of WRs, XL was putting in work run blocking.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPe1VdUES6s/

@mav1234 Might take me a little bit to find the throws without pressure. To your earlier point, in my opinion his throws under pressure looked better more often than those without.

58 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

whatever a brycen Tremayne is

SIR

EXCUSE ME, SIR

MAY I HAVE A MOMENT OF YOUR TIME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR UDFA WR, BRYCEN "THE MAIN" TREMAYNE?

I have his HS picture here so that you can rest assured that he has always been him.

2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

What evidence do you have that Bryce had one of the best deep balls in college?

Just curious because outside of highlights it seemed he wasn't very good there. His strength seemed more escaping the pocket and playing outside structure of the offense, rather than a deep ball. His arm was always considered sort of meh - good enough but not great.

Not specific to college, but last season upon return from benching Bryce was pretty damn good throwing deep. There were compilations of all of his 20+ yard throws while under pressure and with no pressure (I'll find the links and tag you when I get in the school car line in ~1hr). This isn't to say that he's the best at it by any stretch or that he's even top-10 at it. However, he most definitely can throw the ball further than 20yds downfield accurately and there's more than enough evidence to show it. Is he going to be throwing fastballs or 70yd bombs like Cam? No, but he's shown plenty of times that he can get the ball out with the velocity and timing needed.

There's also the fact that... well... the deep ball is not a play that is solely dependent on the QB. Protection needs to hold up, WRs need to have the speed to get by defenders or rack up YAC, and coaches need to call the deep shots. TMac currently has the highest YAC/R (4.7yds) which is #50 in the league. XL is dead last with 0.4yds and Renfrow makes the bottom 10 with 1.9yds. XL has speed, but he was out with a hammy the previous weeks.

Good but not great is the best description for his arm imo. It isn't going to jump out and impress anyone, but it also isn't Jimmy Clausen who had a true noodle arm.

2 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

Bryce can play beyond 20 yards when the team can play beyond 20 yards. The physics of football don’t change from college to NFL. Bryce had one of the best deep balls in college football. He also had surprise surprise, speed at the WR position. Our fastest WR is 5’8 bruh and he just got on the field. Your take is lazy as always. 

The same folks are going to outright lie in response to this despite the plethora of evidence (including video) that supports it.

Best they might have is a random YouTuber that follows the Chargers and got beat up by a little person in a barfight.