Bear Hands

pretty much this.

Oh just go for the TD. Have some gall here

Looks like all the people there have migrated to the lower level.

WRs were awful there. And you can not take that sack. No one was open, keep it a chip shot.

Mingo was not where he needed to be.

Solid chance we have below 3.0 YPA at the half.

oof

Cringe

I like his trajectory as a coach but agree with what's been said so far about where he's at and what we're looking for. There's a bit too many unknowns with him given McDaniel's role on offense. We really need a guy that can instill a culture as much as be an offensive guru. The candidate I'm probably most interested in, as much as Ben Johnson, is Shane Waldron. Geno has had some bad games but he has had the Seattle offense operating at a great level again this year. His pressers also strike me as a guy who's ready for the job. From the McVay tree, knows Fitt (if he unfortunately stays), could poach from the Vikes, Hawks, and Rams staffs..and probably a few others. I also wouldn't look past Mike Kafka who reportedly had a nice interview with us last year, but just wasn't ready. What he's done with the Giants with their awful OL and Tommy Devito has been impressive. Some musings.

Tepper going into an offseason: Tepper & org once games start getting played:

Makes you wonder, if Tepp just fired Rivera and Hurney at the same time, wonder what type of coach could've been had. They could've hired someone like Borgonzi first and found a dude to pair with him. Oh to rewrite history...

Ah didn't see you mention it already -- but yep. I wonder if Tepper thought just didn't pair well with Rhule, he backed out, or we just liked Fitt over him.

We interviewed him last GM cycle. He may already know he wants to stay away from Tepper.

Gettleman had Star fall into his lap year 1, had a good pick in KK. Otherwise, his drafts were pretty spotty. I will say, he was able to identify talent in later rounds, something that hasn't really happened here much recently. Our recent late rounders have barely made it through initial camps and onto the roster. Although I'll never forget when he took Kugbila 1 pick before Bahktiari. I wanted DB so bad that draft and thought he fell perfectly to us. Justa mixed bag and he obviously got on the outs with JR. Seemed to be more of the issue than anything else, although that move saved us from his perpetual, egregious reaching for big dudes that he loved and had tunnel vision for.

He’s also just been through a lot. Beat the big C, stayed on coaching while needing to see the doc a ton. I respect the hell out of the guy but his time is near its end for a full time coaching role. He could be rather good in a defensive consulting spot. I just don’t see a guy with his je ne sais quoi settling into a position coach or even coordinator role again.

We could always pull a JR & Jordan-- get both Rivera and Hurney back. Snuggle in with that mediocrity we all know and love.

checks out

At the end of the day, it's also easy to spot why this team is the worst roster, bar none: Drafting has simply been terrible. We were told the 2021 draft was all Rhule, but you watch the post-draft pressers, and outside of the fact Rhule already looked mentally checked out, Scott was the guy answering qs about strategy, trade calls, team boards, etc. Scott even mentioned turning down offers for #8--they kept it because they loved Horn THAT much. This perception it was all Rhule is a bit shortsighted IMO. Fitterer has had plenty of say since day 1 of arrival. 6 of those 11 2021 picks are off the team. With 1 more good as gone (TMJ). The remaining 4: Horn, Brady C, Tremble, & Hubbard. Then, the 2022 draft was the one we were told via reports Fitt had more clear, a bit more leeway over MR. That was just last year, and only half/3 of those 6 guys are on the team anymore. 2 of those goners we wasted picks trading up for (Corral, Brandon Smith) Then this past season, Zavala and Robinson were ineffective. We wasted more value trading up for DJJ who has been mostly ineffective. Mingo is about the 8th most impressive WR in this class, and I don't want to even get into Bryce and what we gave away. Fitt has simply burned through too much without hitting a single pick. Not one pick is a certified value find. Chubba freaking Hubbard is the most consistent and successful pick in our last 3 drafts lol. Ignored the better opportunities that came to us and went too hard as the aggressor for the wrong guys. If you're going to take that aggressive chip mover mentality, you better hit. And he has not and the roster is terrible. Simple as that.

Random little sidebar but it's fascinating how people treat fan opinions like bloodsport where one side has to be proven right or something. It's all quite silly. Teams can look like crap, players can look like crap, coaches can coach like crap, and the fans have every right to call it out. They're just fans calling what they're seeing, it's not like it's doing much...just digital shouting from the stands. So the team, coaching, & Bryce has looked like crap from the majority of eyes. We're just random spectators at the end of the day, can't take it too seriously. We're fans of a team not winning much so far in our lifetimes (and for the foreseeable future). What I've never understood are those who take their focus as a fan, just hanging, watching a team get destroyed weekly, getting nerdy about the stats and transactions...and rather spend their energy criticizing how other fans should perceive the team, players, etc. Just stahp. Fan critics are the worst. And re: Bryce specifically -- Trying to find any solid definition around him, right now, is just not happening. It's leaning in the bust direction, but it's all just wasted effort at this stage. It's interesting to break down what's, well, breaking down, to try and gauge the situation, games, plays...but getting into a spat that he's somehow going to breakthrough vs. definitively bust just seems like a waste of energy. I will say--I'd rather be pleasantly proven wrong than continually lower standards, while shouting at other fans that they need to be nicer/more forgiving of poor play.

Tepper just needs to just let it crash. We're crashing in spectacular fashion; don't give up any more future capital or anything. As Kunu would say, "The less you do, the more you do" Start letting things come. Don't do anything until impact and we have time to reassess the damages with a new GM and Coach--or combo...or whoever tf he finds ha.

Tepper hired an old school technician to repair a hybrid car in a plane falling from the sky with no pilots on board.

His wife went a bit far and he's not going to comment much on it. It's really a non-issue. They all know they're all gone anyways, that's pretty much what she was saying. He's got some good coaches who respect him (not necessarily as a playcaller) and imagine he'll end up in Minny or LAR in due time in a similar capacity to what he was. Nothing to really see here.

I just can't say that/really don't think it's the case, and it's not because I'm trying to bash Bryce. I just think Cam elevated the team THAT much as a runner and playmaker. Never forget how bad they took a turn when Kalil got injured in 2012. Byron Bell, Hang'man, Amini as a rookie, and a rotating door at RG. That was baaad. Cam was a QB1.

It's usually dependent if we're getting a guy from a team where he can pull from. No different than bringing a hard drive to work that last week before you give notice-- gotta make sure you're grabbing work you did for your own portfolio and records.