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You cannot hope to calculate poo accurately with Bryce Young in the equation.

I saw that too. And am fine with giving him an instructional benching. That is this year right now. But all offseason how many damned times did we hear about that drop in Philly? And I look at him being all mopey and think I bet he snuck on social media to see what people were saying and saw that got himself into a crisis over it. He isn’t a real smart guy, and seems sensitive. Also I will be one of the last people to take up for a loafer. I saw it too.

I put his drafting on Bryce and (apparently) his dad and the urgency the team felt to make Bryce work out. People said AT and Ladd were suited for the same position, I always thought that the team was not looking to this year or next, they had to fill the three WR positions for that season to eliminate excuses, prop Bryce up, that whole thought process. I think it was all connected. like a spider web. All the moves. The Brooks pick too. I didn’t scout any of those guys and don’t watch much college ball at all, so had no opinion on the players. Just on the motivations that brought us to those choices.

Lol I am not saddle broke either. Agree. But do you remember the second half (a half mind you) of Green Bay in 2023 and how long we were told about it? Irrational stanning is hard to stamp out.

It is a noticeable thing. Patience, so many had it for Bryce. Fresh out for everybody else. Seems like. You can’t say he has looked good, but to bury him with this QB and now everyone is calling the limited playbook offense he is in shitty p and the coach is shitty (which would be something that affects a green over drafted WR), and no one I can recall except you had mentioned the old way of 3 years. I don’t know who is right. Just saying I agree with you about patience being so thin.

That reminds me of a quote from Augustus McCrae from Lonesome Dove, about Jake Spoon. Something like “Lori darlin’, you put your hope in Jake Spoon and he is an empty vessel” Just from memory I don’t think that is exact but that’s the gist.

I ageee that it was a loaded question - that I don’t think I have ever seen asked of a guy that was out for injury not benching. As was pointed out.

That is a good argument. Makes me think But you get the whole family. Next thing you know if he doesn’t do well mom is calling people racist, dad weighing in, the media is all over the guy wanting him to step in it, it is hard with the baggage. But what the hell ABB. Guess what that stands for…

I would say the state the defense was reduced to by the Bryce propping left them a multi year fix, and they were doing the front to back deal starting with the front and the pass rush. They tried to get by with Wallace, hoping he could pick it up his second year, and Jewel. With Rozeboom for depth - and got hit. Pretty simple. We had the guy the Steelers took in range (2024) but passed for I think durability concerns. I don’t remember who we had the option to pick and didn’t this past year. And probably could have maneuvered out of pick 8 to get a talented ILB but then, you know, we had to have that offense for little Mr Excitement. And it looks like a very good pick so what can you say.

If I remember we had the typical OL shuffling and WR shuffling with people being hurt, maybe starting after his first game, pretty sure by the second. (Oops that would be his 3rd) Continuity issues hurt you with a shallow depth chart. It seemed the team was out of sync for two or three weeks. It didn’t do him any favors. It will be the same this time it looks like. I would have liked to seen him with all the ones for a few weeks and see if he still faded like that. He makes Bryce look like the college player that he is.

It certainly does. And reinforces to me that my first impressions of a player are the ones I should go with. With all of the college guys, you have to see them against NFL players before you know. They ate his lunch.

Knowing this guy he will come out and throw three 10 yard TD passes off of short fields and everyone will be back in the saddle.

Andy is the superior QB all day long every day. Even in his current incarnation.

To all y’all I can read the room and understand my opinion wouldn’t be popular. I have had them before. It is what it is. I don’t need you guys to rebut my opinion thinking I would be convinced by your opinions. I have had enough of that with my unpopular Bryce opinion - which was fuging 100% right btw. I wasn’t a flip to anti Bryce I was anti Bryce ore draft. Never changed my take. Not saying That’s not saying I won’t change this one. Said at the beginning I expected missteps. You should expect them when you admittedly hire a guy before he is ready and need him to grow into the job. We are four games into the second season with a hopeless albatross around our necks playing QB. I need to see more before I join the lynch mob. His beta voice and cheerleader stuff notwithstanding, because I don’t like that. It isn’t my idea of what grown men respond to. But he was brought here to try and salvage a train wreak of a draft pick at QB which I never thought could be done, I need to see him fail with a good piece of clay, before I flush him. He did a good job with Baker. He obviously has a huge pile of poo to contend with - that btw won’t get any smaller for the next Tepper lackey. It won’t be easy for whoever. I am gonna try and stay out of the Canales party moving forward.

I get that. Can’t argue with that sentiment But if he wanted out I think I would just send him on his way. Having him on the team has done enough damage. Same as with AT, it has to work for us.

He was given an impossible task. If Mayfield says he sucks I will believe it. I am not believing it off of Bryce freaking Young failing because there Is no fixing that guy. Also in play, big time, do you really think Tepper can attract an upgrade? I am very skeptical of that. I am not gonna go back and forth there is a lot that has to play out - that is my position until there are further developments.

I am not there with firing him as long as he only has had Bryce to work with. I won’t rant against it if it happens but thisnisn’t a fair opportunity for anyone. I know the arguments for it no need to try and convince me, I need to see him fail with a good QB.

And I thought he had progressed. He was one of the worst ever his rookie year I guess he didn’t get better.

I know about Rex the buffoon I know about his mom going race card too. I am no fan of Rex he is a blowhard - but it’s a circus And it’s still mime. I mean no he didn’t…

I don’t know. I thought the EU and US signed a deal where we pretty much cancel out most things. Which should be better for us. It is another piece of gum in the works though, I was just trolling Europe to be honest. The future of a business over there, I would be worried. They are losing their grip on their culture and it’s about blow up I think. I don’t know that I would want to be heavily invested.

Anyone is better than Young but this guy is a little bit of a sideshow. Did you see the mime act? I hate mimes too fwiw

We have people still all up in Bryce’s jock. Tepper is buds with him and his family now. He will be clinging to hope and doing like these people here do and claiming Bryce is poorly coached, has nothing around him, the usual I don’t rule the above out. The stages of grieving take some time to work through until you get to acceptance.

Plus tariffs lol. How would that work?

We are seeing signs of him becoming more independent let’s call it.

All Red Zone all of the time.