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That was always the fear, expectation, concern, etc, I had. Someone showed a still shot from his pick last game and said it showed that the defender closed 3 yards on that ball in the last portion of its flight. I forget the number. 10 yards I think it said but that sounds extreme. When guys are open by a step, any slowing down to wait for the ball lets the defender back into the play. That sort of stuff makes the margins so small… these NFL CBs are not slow. It is a league that highly values foot speed; the 40 times and drill times are scrutinized down to the hundredth of a second when evaluating these players on both sides of the passing game. Receivers and defenders both. My thing with his arm strength (or anyone’s) was always “why do you want to do that? Plus pay extra picks to put yourself in that situation?”. Asking for trouble. I wish there was a way to measure velocity on the back half of a throw compared to when it left the hand. Or really get accurate reading of the flight time of a ball from the near hash to the sideline, 10 yards down the field. Because teams could use that info. I have always seen this as being a disadvantage with Bryce but it is beyond my ability to quantify it. I think it would show what that arm strength is really about, a lot more than just measuring how much air can you put under it so it will fly as far as possible.

We didn’t break Bryce. He is exactly what he was at Alabama, better really, because they have him employing proper footwork at least some of the time - vs never like when he got here. He is a college level player, improperly equipped to thrive in the NFL. That’s all it is. All it ever was or ever will be.

Time for a Campbell’s Chunky Soup commercial.

Shough was a second rounder. We don’t know what he is but he looks like some very good potential. And the price allows you to indulge without a ton of loss if you are wrong. I am really against trading future 1st round picks, and exponentially so when talking multiples. I can’t sign off on some mega deal for a vet in the midst of a bad relationship. No matter his talent two years ago.

I am almost as old as he is, and I hate to say it but he was too old to start a journey like that would be - if done right. What’s he gonna be, coaching an NFL team at 78 years old?

A developmental QB should have been taken in year two. Absolutely you have to buy a ticket to the QB lotto when he is your starter. Showing what he was showing, I mean. You do that, and even if you don’t hit you leave no doubt with him that we aren’t playing around. We have intentions of having that guy under center. If he wants it to be him, get on the stick.

He is the second rounder that got away. He gets some benefit of the doubt, you can afford to be wrong. Those other guys are high picks. Like that, (snaps fingers), we are free of the millstone. No 5th year 30 million necessary. No extension. No more Bryce hell.

Interesting idea I don’t know the answer to. I think he is with Pittsburgh unless they release him. I wouldn’t want them to take him back, personally.

I never understood the Pete hiring.

I am with you on the bad trade wagon. I have a red line and it starts with future 1sts. You don’t do it for any reason. In my book. But once it was done, it had to be Stroud. They are nuts.

Interesting. I never watch college ball. I might catch the title game but might not, it isn’t appointment TV for me. I watch a couple of SCar games a year plus normally the USC/Clemson. That is it. I don’t scout prospects for the draft anymore, for at least ten years now. When we pick someone, then I look them up. When we made the choice of Bryce or CJ a reality I knew I had to pretend I was a scout again… No joke, 10 minutes or less of watching Bryce video, I was 100% out. I could not understand what people were looking at with Young. I decided a lot of why people liked him so much was they had watched him a lot in college. And developed a pro Bryce bias off of that. And since I hadn’t seen him at all, I had no biases. So kind of the opposite rationale.

There was a popular narrative here especially last year about Bryce being good when it didn’t count; a lot of people pushed back, of course.

I’d take Shough’s first 8 or whatever it is over the entire first two years of Bryce. And most of this year. Want an over reaction? Not sure it is, but: Swap teams for Shough and Bryce for our two games we would be 2-0 not 0-2. The guy Shough replaced might beat Bryce out.

Both Atl and NO have responded to QB changes. I am looking at that and what it means for their future. NO in particular is worrisome. If people thinking that happen to be at odds with Bryce love, or perceived fairness to him, oh well. Call it whatever makes you feel better.

To your point of the unknowable future.. being lapped by NO on the QB hunt is really disturbing to me. Swept too. Absolutely we could be on the outside looking in, in the future. So I say Win and get the playoff game. I am expecting it given the pattern this year. But if I had assurances that Bryce would be gone if we lost Sunday, where do I sign up? I mean, talk about addition by subtraction… boom.

Burns did kind of quit on us. I forgot about that.

That is the worst part of it all, he would not be a tough player to upgrade. But we’ll sit in this mess another year. At least.

Good one. Can you imagine if we lose Saturday and the league has to wait on Atlanta to play their game a day later?

I mean would you find it useful to subdivide the over 19 yards stuff into some categories? Lot of ways that could be divided and give you some more accurate pictures than lumping everything that basically isn’t a short pass into one bin. Defining short medium intermediate long deep from 0 to 40 or 45 seems to offer far more detail out of your numbers than what they do now. That is one thing I learned thanks to Bryce - the 20 yard deep ball rule. I never ever considered 20 yards a deep shot, in my life. And everyone is talking about his deep ball… and it’s a 20 yard pass. I definitely rebelled.

I have played that game and it was looking good until I looked up and Fitterer was still in the picture, and I didn’t know how to get him out without the big Bryce fug up

Some of us consider Bryce fatal. As in, you catch a case of him and it doesn’t matter what you do you can’t live with it. Feeling like that compels us to show mercy to the victims and hold back on the judgement. I got that. I got Canales was nowhere near ready and his entire first year was a free ride. I got 8 maybe 9 wins - with Bryce Young as my QB. Couple more things. I got things on the bad side too, like his culture, not sure about it. Soft. The insistence in play calling when you have so much on your plate already… is that wise? Probably not. PS I think that was some concession that resulted from separating the defensive responsibilities and leaving that with Evero because how does such a longshot hire get that kind of clout to have a token OC and really be HC, OC and play caller? I would prefer to see him with an acceptable QB at his disposal before running him off. But if he has to go to get Bryce out of here, I won’t argue.

It looks to me like he is still working on getting those numbers down. He may end up the sole caretaker of that record.

I remember hearing that Blank was blindsided and the Raheem Morris and Fontenot the GM were meeting with him to explain and plead their case. I don’t know if that is true - it sounds crazy - but I would have fired them on the spot if they did that without telling me. Meddling owner criticism be damned.

That was the stupidest draft decision next to our Bryce selection in quite some time. You have just signed a vet to a huge deal to be your starter and you go top ten with another QB?

I have one in particular in mind that has escaped mention here but it’s too easy. I’ll see if anyone includes ‘him’. Hint: another turd pile distributer.