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We didn’t really have much of a choice, and were lucky to get Walker. And lucky to get Freeling too for that matter. People say Walker s a better pass than run blocker but I am not sure that means he upgrades Icky’s pass pro And my fairly critical view of what it will take to compete relies heavily on the run game being improved over last year. We weren’t that good after we got past the bad defenses. (And a lot of that was due to the QB not posing a big enough threat if they sold out foe the run. But it is what it is, we just have to be better) I think we need a Plus run game to compensate for other stuff. So I am rooting for Walker

Stats are overrated. Great example.

I wouldn’t want to pay Hurts or Purdy that kind of money. I surely would throw up if they gave that to Beyce. Honestly with me and Bryce it is more the time he is given than the money. Of course the money guarantees the time. I just in no way want to be handcuffed to him for another three years. Theoretically he could change that but theoretically Musk could colonize Mars. And I would give that better odds of happening.

I wouldn’t be opposed to Jenkins cheap but don’t want to give up Walker. Even if Freeling overtakes him early, we will end up needing him

Sure, he has better OL and better WR and a better defense and that helps a lot. Plus almost everyone improves with more reps and experience. Some of it is from that. Closely aligned to that is stability and consecutive years in the same system. Now to the not improved and likely never will improve stuff: he can’t see the field any better with experience. The arm is not going to give him any edge, quite the opposite. His disadvantages and narrow margins for error remain the same. You can’t fix that you have to live with it. I don’t want to. Never did.

Lol they are probably more grounded in reality. My issue with that is, they promised no more mediocrity. I am with you he needs to show out.

Kind of a hard one. If he actually did it once I still would need to see him do it again before I could trust it. It isn’t so much stats for me. It is do all the stuff he has been unable to do. He has yet to take over a game against a stout defense. Dictate to them. Impose our offense on them. I am sick of watching every defense cheat up and crowd us like they can do that with no fear of penalty. Show up every week and play at a high level. Not just a couple games and then back to being the little engine that can’t. Like someone said, be the reason we win and put some fear into defenses. His play vs LA needs to be the floor. Even better Go watch it again, he left a lot of meat on the bone. Basically make me an offer so good I can’t refuse it. Walk on water compared to what we have gotten from him so far. Otherwise let’s start over again and be smart about it this time. No midgets.

Another way to look at that. If we go QB in 2027 it means those people admit they fix a bad job in 2023. So maybe they won’t be so self assured

I know how you feel. I don’t know how I could manage to hang either if he doesn’t show a lot more and what comes from another bottom half of the league performance is they ties us to him again with another multi year commitment.

I didn’t realize that half written post made it to the board. Sorry. I was just saying there plenty of Bryce hype to go around after he made a good showing in the WC game. And wasn’t going to finish it to post it. Oops

Which is about his ceiling.

They picked it up. Maybe you meant to say extension?

If Moore had been given time and resources like Bryce has, he might have been pretty good.

I never saw anyone called racist for dogging Byron Bell. Or Nick Scott. Or Turk Wharton. Or Legette lol.

Ahh but there actually is, if you really want to buy some. Most people aren’t. Even the national press that was wagg

Yeah I never expected that bridge to be crossed this season. This offers me no real sigh of relief or anything like that I fhe earns it they will get that 2027 26.5 mil number down with an extension and if he doesn’t (and somehow they find their lost sanity) they will eat 26.5mil, probably spread out over 2 years.

Yeah this is why Freeling and Walker and we better hope Brooks is right. Because if you have Bryce at QB you better have a beyond solid OL and running game or you are dead in the water. I suppose Idzik could be some play calling prodigy and Bevell could help transform the passing game, in dream/fantasy land but we have three years of looking at practically the same thing. If you can see it and it happens, good for for you but I can’t see any kind of big jump coming from the QB position. A lot of little jump passes maybe lol.

There are stull concerns bud yes we did elevate our talent at least on the defense. And I guess the depth got better on offense with Freeling and Hect and Brazzell but I don’t see a lift there anywhere really other than maybe receiver. Bryce is Bryce. With a green OC and there will be a new dynamic there with Bevell too. I would think some change in the playbook maybe and some adjustment time maybe should be expected. And as much as we need to have a big running game, that room is iffy because of Brooks. We just don’t know. I am not unhappy with Chuba but not too impressed with him from last season. We are going t need Brooks to be right or Etienne best be ready for a load. Also it feels like maybe you are downplaying the other division teams a little much. More than me anyway.

It was so badly misjudged and handled. The whole Reich thing was the product of other choices not wanting the job. And Tepper was hell bent and determined to have his trendy offensive HC and his franchise QB. With no waiting. Gettleman was an oaf to me but he said it right when he said don’t shop hungry. (You know, like he himself did after Norman).

I loved Chud his first year and was glad he left by year two. Details are blurry but in general I thought he got way too cute year two and it might have been him angling for a HC job. which he did get.

Chudzinzki was OC in 2011 and 2012. I guess Shula was QB coach? Is that why he gets credit? And fwiw Sellers is sort of a Cam style guy and I bet Shula got that job off of coaching Cam.

Practically no one thought the Pats were what they were. Kind of similar re the Jags. And most didn’t have us as being a loss on their schedule for that matter. The schedule looks tough to me but there will be missed evaluations and unexpected outcomes like just about every other season.

Well I guess Bryce is moving up. It wasn’t that long ago he was the lesser QB in 17 of 17. I admit, I didn’t think he could do it. We are going to have to run all over people and out defense some offenses to do anything. I don’t know how many we can win but I think 6 is low.

If someone key is hurt and your bye week helps you by not forcing you to play without them, it is at a good time. No way to know about that ahead of time. I would concede that with 17 games and let’s say you are playoff bound, you would love to have it late

If I am playing that game I am going to stand with protecting a QB is job one becausew you could have Moss and Rice and they could not be Moss and Rice if the qb couldn’t get the ball to them. You would be better off with the good protection and average WRs.