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50,000.

It is so competitive. There are a lot of guys ready to go. Like Rico. And Rico will probably leave and we’ll find another. If you have to sit out you really hurt your chances. I guess being a 2nd rounder gets you something.

Both could happen and either team could win if they did. Sounds like a good game. We have been developing some weapons. Very slowly working them in. If the passing attack can command more respect we can play with the RBs more. Team record last week passing. So maybe they have to account for some things, finally, and we get some breathing room. Take away half of that 448 and double the running game output which would be 160-175 probably, we probably win. Against most teams.

Watched the 2 or 3 minutes Ross Tucker Greg Cosell preview. Cosell says the Atlanta and SF defenses are polar opposites. Atlanta is man and pressure, SF is zone and rushing 4. FWIW.

There is also a thing where, with the long ass season, playing a team at a certain point makes a big difference. They are rarely the same team 3 months later. I like the division games being bunched together for fairness. Everyone is basically playing the same team. Yours and theirs. Course there are flaws in that too. Maybe there should be two bunches months apart to factor that in. Injuries, development, etc.

First, it was such a shame that TD had to play in his SB with that horribly broken and swollen forearm. He deserved better and it hurt us. I have had a feeling or curiosity about Brooks’ first surgery just being botched. I could never know that, just had a feeling about it. A suspicion. If it was, maybe the second one (who I also don’t know who did it) will be successful.

I usually don’t get attached in that way to player issues. I mostly observe. Not gonna go into Cam and Jake because this is going to be long enough already. I just was so against taking him because I looked at him pre draft - since it was made into such a major crossroads for the team with that trade. I could see right away it was a horrible mistake once Inlooked at his video. And couldn’t believe that pro people overlooked that stuff. Just unbelievable. Still is. But even pre draft, and certainly post draft and camp… every time I said “hmm, have you guys seen this with his arm, with his footwork, the tippy toe drop back with the square to the line stuff, it all adds time to the play and how is that gonna work against actual NFL defenders? The margins are already so slim even for people with great arms etc etc” I was met with torrents of scorn and ‘processor” and ‘SEC is the NFL’ and everything else they were fed. People wouldn’t open their eyes they just were always telling me to find another team blah blah, idiot, all kinds of hateful poo. While I am being called the hater lol. That made it bigger than him for me. Way bigger. But, I and all the naysayers have already been proven right. He was not worth the trade or his draft position. That is in the books. Now it is new goalposts. Can he even be salvaged? Was it worth building this offense around him just to save face over the investment? Is he worth the 5th year? The 4th year even? That is what is in doubt now.

Trolling?

Apology accepted. I take back the fug you. I am sick of the same arguments. How many fuging days in a row must we talk about the same thing. It is always the same thing. I’d be fine to move on from him no matter what he plays like just to get rid of that dynamic at this point.

A grown man with posters on his wall. That aren’t him. And a mic stand omg.

And that probably means at least a couple of different things. I wonder how many were necessary, make it or we lose, vs some other reason. We had one pretty early in the game recently on our side of the field but most seem to be no man’s land like between the 45 yard lines

So we are all supposed to bow now? Or can we wait until after the season? The fear is not that he would prove me wrong, it is that the people in charge are fooled again and accept subpar results as enough progress to make a new commitment. And of course, we get the same start to next year as this year and the previous two years. I am not afraid to be wrong. I have consistently said let’s let these games play out. I am just unwilling to accept one or two nice games a year or three or four and the rest working around him like we have to do, as proof of success. IOW I am afraid you are wrong to crown him, the FO will be wrong, etc… And screw you too calling people miserable old fugs.

How would that work? 1st are we talking the one specific play or in general? I get one play, being a mistake.

I am not a stat head but I believe taking 4th down conversions would be considered a small sample size. Looking at the actual play, if it involved a throw especially, and assessing the difficulty of making that throw for the average player gives you a good idea. Have we not seen throwaways on 4th down? When if you had no play you could just chuck it deep and hope if your guy doesn’t get it the defense is dumb enough to catch it.

I remember in a Super Bowl season for them, New England took an opening week ass whipping from the Bills. You see this type of stuff quite often early in the season. An eventual playoff team losing to a bottom dweller that comes out strong, isn’t that rare.

There is definitely a don’t fug up factor to winning in the NFL. In a true parity situation making the fewest mistakes is probably the number one factor in the outcome. I would add that in most jobs if you just handle the simple really easy to do poo like being on time and dressing properly, you are more than halfway secure.

So now it’s a referendum on 4th down conversions. You win.

Parity in the league is out of whack. I think there are a lot more bad teams than there used to be. They play each other and the games are close. They play upper echelon and the difference shows up on the scoreboard in the form of blowouts on occasion. As to the OP we have to try and play those better teams close and sometimes we can. It means making a it low scoring game. Basically if you want more points the QB has to play better. Some weeks he doesn’t play very well.

Just want to add that this is invaluable experience they are getting. It often takes more than one try. Whether or not they succeed this time, they will have it to draw from next time. So it is a positive however it turns out this one time.

What you credit him for were good plays. I refer you to the thoughts of another QB out there being tasked with that situation. Were they plays only he could make because of a unique skill set or ability, compared to another QB? Is it possible someone else of marginal NFL skill level might have made those completions? This is the thing. You might reply that his intangibles come into play, his clutchness for example. I am saying it is fair to wonder if maybe another QB converts on third down and we don’t need a 4th down conversion. Or another guy makes the same throws and the train keeps rolling. Stuff like that. Where do you draw those lines? And if you don’t get a clear answer of Bryce could do that and another guy similar in skill set or maybe with a better arm could not, then do you pay him huge multiples of millions?

I never even thought about the Cowboys until you said that. Hmm. We own those fugers in the playoffs maybe we need to keep those at least for them.

Sure do. And defense was king. We always had top defenses.

I think those silver helmets look great. The logo is fairly primitive looking but I understand why it is used. The dayglo type blue top/bottom, I think looks like a cartoon. IOW not good. White on white is a classic look, no issue. Black on black I can take but prefer black pants with a blue top. Or white pants with the blue top. That is about as much fashion content as I am comfortable posting. Maybe go to E or Bravo for this stuff.

You are a fair point argument guy, but I disagree that Bryce got us out of that Miami hole. You know who Rico Dowdle is, right? Just a small quibble. IMO when I look at him and see his output in a typical game I imagine what he did that a replacement level guy wouldn’t or couldn’t have done. And I have trouble seeing much difference. So assuming they can’t replace him with someone’s backup, not everybody’s but there are guys sitting, assuming they can’t replace him for probably less money would potentially be an erroneous assumption. But based more on his relationship with the team and the guys making the decisions, the question of will they? I tend to see them sticking with him. I never wanted him at all. But after all the misery of the Bryce era so far, I don’t have a problem with waiting until the season is complete to decide. Bring it on, I can take it. So I am not ranting that he needs to go, although I have certainly done that and can’t say he has changed my mind to this point. He still could. We’ll see.

Okay.