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That’s basically the old baseball cliche, we can lose 100 games without you.

One last thing, they could have brought Lock in this year, right? Didn’t for some reason. I know that when Canales got here they talked to him and he had committed elsewhere. But I didn’t see that they talked to him this year. That means something, but who knows what. I’d like to see a process of selection Re QB that didn’t include Bryce in whatever considerations get considered. What would we do without him murking up the waters.

It seems so simple.

Lol I was trying to say I was close to bailing. English is a funny language sometimes.

They talking about being 1-15 and their issue isn’t that they were getting their asses kicked, and earned that record, I didn’t hear anything about that - they criticize the fans for making them feel bad. The fans? Where is your pride? And you are making serious bank going 1-15.

I am trying to remember if OJ and the Bills did anything in his 2000 yard rushing season. Looked it up. Nope. That was a 14 game season no one has really gotten his YPG average and this list of 2000 yd guys is freaking impressive. But they didn’t win poo.

That is a fairly frequent byproduct of teams run by offensive minds. I guess I’m profiling or something but that is my experience. You are taking that risk. All this fancy offense wins SBs sometimes but you look at Marino, Fouts, guys like that. Plenty didn’t. Great QBs but no championships.

Seems like there are two main perspectives weighing in. Watching, and having to play/compete against him. If you have to play against him Sunday, what does it matter that he did violence on Thursday? Or if he isn’t a suitable role model…. I watched NFL when Don Merideth QB’d the Cowboys. Way before MNF. Dan Reeves I think was a backup. I saw ‘The Heidi Game’ live on my little B&W 13” TV when I was a kid. No kidding. And you know, much more. I can’t say I have really seen anyone like Smitty. I love those other 3 too. There isn’t another Cam, I think there are other maybe Peps - athletic freaks with size and speed. And there have been probably a couple of Lukes or close. Heady super talented and motivated defensive QBs - which Luke was. But I love that guy, He is HOF in my book. There were guys that were similar to Smitty I thought Andre Rison had some of it but he flamed out. There are others that I maybe am not recalling. But Smitty took stuff to a new level. Like when he came back to BOA as a Raven. He just destroyed people. Sorry for the long winded drunk post.

People aren’t wrong on posters here having very strong prospect evaluation skills. At the same time people went nuts for Bryce Young. Okay but anyhow we look at overall stuff and what impresses me is the people that know the deeper prospects. I used to spend time studying and they’d trade the pick. After a while I said screw it not putting my time into that. People here immediately bitched about DJ Johnson for instance. 3rd round I think. And they were freaking right. I’m not sure I’d have figured that out. Other examples exist.

Tua? Hell no. I think that would do it, the absolute last straw for me. Close now.

DC for NYJ

Okay you don’t like Brown and you think Burns is great I guess. This has reached the end for me. I said what I think you said what you think. We will not agree on this making it pointless to continue. Peace.

Oh please. Worst player n the NFL is a pretty big claim. Watched our linebackers much? We have guys that can’t beat them out. And that’s just our team.

Irony yes you could say that as long as there is no intent to claim that because he left we all of a sudden got so bad we are losing all the time. Which it seems like you might be trying to imply. Did we lose something? Yes we did. Was it worth 5 years at 28 mil per? Not to my thinking.

First: What do you think the word ‘scapegoating’ means? Because what I said was not scapegoating. They are two different players playing two different roles. I simply said two things about Burns, if I recall. One, basically he is a one dimensional player that is doing well because they have a very strong front in NY. Two, I was against paying his price because he is a liability against the run. One dimensional and therefore not worth it. Summing it up: he e is a pass rush specialist, about all I have ever felt about him, and his financial demands made him much less of a value. IMO.

We disagree then. You want to talk about someone not being worth the money? That’s why Burns is gone. A guy that is a definite liability in the run game isn’t worth close to what the Giants gave him. I am glad they let him go because I definitely did not want to pay him that. I wish we’d have taken the Rams’ offer but oh well we had to waste our own picks on Bryce.

I didn’t see that. Wow. Of course, the hamstring thing smells like raccoon road kill. I expected something g to happen when Coker got healthy, just because it will be so thin with no Legette, no Coker, no AT.

The thing that tells me this is the QB room. It is like he made a deal with Morgan and Canales that Bryce was to be given whatever it takes to succeed. Every decision had him at the center of it. That is why Brooks (his pass catching was suppposed to be best in the RB class). Obviously the heavy focus on upgrading the offensive personnel was part of it. And the lameness of the 3rd QB, bringing back Bryce’s service ginger. That was all dictated if you ask me. And that, is all negotiated by at the top and allows Tepper to look like he took the big step back during the draft and in season, for those concerned about that. The same type of deal as the 3-4, that is a condition of employment.

I remember Wilks being very complimentary to Baker for the way he handled himself. Mostly how he responded when Wilks committed to Darnold, I think. We would have been so much better off if Baker had played well and we kept him and DJ and the number 9 and all the rest of our picks.

You got that right. Those linebackers are a waste of a roster spot. Wallace looks just like he looked last season. Slow, getting pushed around, completely ineffective.

Given the idiocy of our big bass man I wouldn’t bet that he’s gone. He’s liable to win four or five and get those stats where Tepper looks at it and says if he just had a better coach. And here we go again for four more years of the tippy toe offense.

Brown is a beast. There was a video up of him totally rag dolling a Cardinal lineman. It was a legit rag dolling of that guy. I haven’t seen one big man do that to another for some time. Sacks are not the best measure of his value, IMO. If he takes up two guys then one of his teammates should be eating. I don’t much of that. I would say look at Brian Burns the other day tearing. He wasn’t doing that until they put more in the line with him that people have to worry about. Now he is eating. (hopefully Brown’s teammates will take advantage of what he is doing for them)

Yeah. Like that. I was picturing Sgt Carter yelling at Gomer Pyle, showing my age, but that is good enough right there.

Yeah me too. We should have taken him. He was a much better bet than most of what you find that far down. He might have been 5 stars coming out of high school, I don’t know. Just that he was highly thought of. His college career didn’t get off to a great start and he ended up on a bad team with bad protection. But you could watch him and see what he had. I don’t see a way he doesn’t have a long career as a #2, at worst.

Who is playing QB for the Panthers in this movie, where we beat Atlanta?