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The GWD stat, as I see it, was being spun to pimp Bryce. He does have some ability in the clutch. But that is a poo stat. I don’t like stats much anyway. They can illustrate a point you try to make about a player or team or game, yes. I will put it this way though: do you need stats to tel you how Bryce played on Sunday? Or the Sunday before? In the words of the great Johnny Guitar Watson, I don’t think so.

It was my first Panthers MB experience. I don’t remember my user name. probably my email address I didn’t know much at all about the internet.

I wonder if they expanded the qualifiers at some point. Like in the participation trophy generation. Ir just wonder about the history of it. Because we had game winning drives before there was a GWD stat. I feel like it used to mean something different. Like a deep ball nowadays vs 30 years ago.

There was a Charlotte.com board where a lot of people that came here used to be on. They shut it down but I remember a couple of users here that were there first.

Not altogether wrong but that no way would have happened in 2003. Later after he got paid and was in decline due probably to the arm trouble. Jake came In like gangbusters. There was no okay he was great in college he has no help blah blah like we heard for nearly two years. you might walk that back a little.

Yes he does.

Yeah. Exactly. And I am not teyi g to use it against him because it is the same for everyone. I did get interested in it because of him and found that I not been thinking about it realistically. Bet I wasn’t alone It isn’t some exclusive stat for the real bad asses like I had always thought. We ask you know, who would you want with the ball in their hands and 2 minutes to go 90 yards? As a measure of greatness. That is what I thought it was. But it isn’t that. Yet it can be that. But a handoff or two counts just the same. Misleading. IMO.

I mean, the point is it is a flawed statistic that is just some catch all for whatever. It doesn’t differentiate between truly bad ass performance and you happened to be there and handed the ball off type of performance. It is the same for every player so fair in that sense, but without going into detail of how they qualified for the stat you are just looking at a very broad descriptor. I don’t know about you but until I looked up the the qualifiers and understood that, I had this picture in my head of the QB that leads his team down the field like a boss, against the clock, and passes the team to a last minute or two come from behind win. But is not always the case, not close. If say, your defense gets a turnover in enemy territory in the 4th quarter and you hand it off to the running back a couple of times, and your team kicks a FG for the deciding score, you get a GWD. Counting the same as the former scenario of the last minute against the clock do or die hurry up drill executed to perfection. Unless you go look at each individual drive chart that earned a GWD, you can’t tell which it was.

Okay I see what I missed. He has 12 wins not 10. Stats…. Garbage in, garbage out. There should be a way to measure the winning drives against the fail to win drives. But there isn’t. A way to identify the truly ‘heroic’ putting the team on your back (and your WR’s backs), and separate it from the ‘well he was on the field and took the snaps’ type stuff. But there isn’t. Technically a QB can handoff 5 times and get into FG range and the kicker wins it, but the QB has a GWD. And that counts the same as if he did the 2 minute drill with no timeouts left and threw the team 60 plus yards into the winning TD or FG. Bullshit stat.

Atlanta at home this year. Without looking, what else? And really, you get a GWD for a 30-0 game?

There is definitely something fishy about this. I mean his win total is 10 games in 3 seasons. If I counted correctly. The only ten games we won, he gets a GWD every time? And wait a mi Ute how could he have one vs the Jets when Dalton finished the game? When other guys have 30 wins in 3 years and don’t have that near that many? That is a bullshit stat in some way.

It was a great game for just about anybody and I don’t see him ever having a better one lol. If it is just the air part I would agree he deserves it. Allen had 6 TDs but 3 were running. And 2 picks.

Maybe DeAngelo and Stew when they went off but it would have been for ground.

Good for him.

Y’all don’t think that ankle swells up overnight and is a problem? Usually you can play on something like that for a while but once you sleep on it the next day is another story. Hopefully they!l go North Dallas 40 on that ankle and tape it up again. Be kind of crazy if limited mobility forces him to be a better pocket passer.

Two bad games in a row for Jaycee.

They are assholes.

I think we got the ball with 16 seconds left and one timeout maybe. Not sure about the number of timeouts. Somewhere around our 30 YL maybe. Want to say the 27. Knelt down didn’t try.

Doing that while in hurt and playing through pain enhances the performance. We can probably agree on that.

Bama. Schmama. Why didn’t he just seamlessly transition to making those same throws in the NFL? I guess you will blame that on everything but your boy. As usual.

I have been there. If you 100% believe he isn’t the answer why would you want to string it out? Why wouldn’t you hope he plays so bad that we can close the book on him as opposed to taking another three years to figure out he isn’t the guy? It is up to him, all he ever had to do was play well enough to change minds. If I saw what he did yesterday a lot more often, even close, I would adjust my thinking.

WTF. Someone put this child down for his nap.

Yardage based rankings lie like dogs.

I wouldn’t normally volunteer this so close to the triumph we just saw, but to respond to your point: I felt like he was the reason it was harder. Or maybe I should say, his limitations were the reason it was harder. For him and for Canales or whoever. Takes me back to my original evaluation, which boiled down to the thinner margins you get when you give up the athletic advantages. It makes it harder so why pay so much to do it. If he can keep his level of performance up to this standard there won’t be any more questions.

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