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Yeah, to me the long-term hope is that T-Mac and XL are our outside guys, Coker is the slot, and then we have a bunch of guys to compete to round out the rest of the group.

Its possible. Given the higher value and longer expected career length of WR vs. RB I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't pushing to play WR himself, but honestly Samuel would've probably been best used as a Deebo type of player - essentially a RB/WR hybrid. And yeah, drafting him right after CMC was head scratching and I said so at the time. Like, why did we just draft a poor man's version of CMC right after drafting CMC. I said the same when we drafted Funchess. Why did we just draft a poor man's version of KB when we just spent a 1st rounder on KB last year?

You're arguing against posts that haven't even been made. Roughly half the thread is people arguing it's a good move and the other half is people saying he's a mid-level starter who isn't worth carrying this type of cap impact. I don't think I've seen a single person saying he's a below average QB at best and that's why you're backpedaling. First it was "terrible", now it's "below average at best". Mischaracterizing others' arguments doesn't make yours stronger.

Who has said that Purdy is terrible?

LOL! Yeah, the pearl clutching by some folks is just a little crazy. Of all the things in the world to get triggered by, a sports league dunking on your favorite football team's incompetence is the one you pick? Okay...

LOL! Yeah, the pearl clutching by some folks is just a little crazy. Of all the things in the world to get triggered by, a sports league dunking on your favorite football team's incompetence is the one you pick? Okay...

Anything to drive engagement. Business social media management boils down to South Park underpants gnomes mentality. Phase 1: Get likes and shares! Phase 2: ? Phase 3: Profit!!!

Its not new. This was just a few days ago. The only mistake they made was not realizing that David Tepper was a member at QH.

It's social media. Yeah, it's very normal. Everyone is just trying to get something to go viral. It's all about likes, reshares, and impressions. It's just that whoever or whatever form that manages their social media accounts definitely did NOT know that the owner of the Carolina Panthers was a member at Quail Hollow. That's where the ball got dropped.

To be fair, I'm honest kinda doubt that it was directly Tepper who bitched about this. It was probably Quail Hollow contacting the PGA trying to get in front of it before Tepper started pissing in their ear about the PGA dunking on his shitty football team when he's a member of the club that just finished hosting the US Open. I bet some poor low level admin at QH saw that tweet come across their feed and flew into an absolute panic that led to club management contacting the PGA to delete the tweet while someone else desperately tried to get a hold of Tepper to let him know what happened and they're on it. Meanwhile, whoever runs the PGA's social media is cooked.

Bingo.

Nor would most Panthers fans. Making the playoffs is the goal of the regular season. But celebrating wins that do nothing but cost draft position at the end of lost seasons when you're already eliminated is kinda embarrassing. Like somehow you've found a way to turn an already had season into an even bigger spectacle of losing as now you've already lost on the goal of the regular season and now you're onto losing draft position.

If we're still in the playoffs hunt, sure. Once we're mathematically eliminated or once it's such a longshot that it's beyond reasonable hope, fug it...

Exactly. There's no such thing as a sure thing but the draft pick value chart exists for a reason. Higher draft picks have higher value, simple as that. If you have hapless idiots making the picks it doesn't matter as much but all things being equal it's better to have more options than less options. Every player that comes off the board is a player you can't add to your roster

He's an asset in a game manager role. But as soon as you have to ask him to go out there and try to make plays and not just take what the defense is giving him... well, Darnolding happens.

No, I get that. Hell, it still frustrates me too. But damn, I'm not gonna hold it against Bryce or future QBs. I don't want to just keep making the same mistake.

When Tepper promised us that the days of mediocrity were over I don't think this is what any of us had in mind. Now we long for those days of "mediocrity". LOL In reality, we were rarely mediocre. We just ran very hot or cold. We were balling or we were sucking and not much in between.

Some Cam stans get pissed about how much we're investing in offensive pieces to put around Bryce and I don't get it. Yeah, we horribly neglected doing that for Cam. But why repeat that same mistake again? Ultimately, if Bryce doesn't work out then hopefully we will have created a great situation for the next guy to step into.

At the end of the day, that's what it boils down to. Win on the field and none of it will matter. Don't win and they're gonna be dunking on you like an old school NBA dunk contest when the MJs and Dominiques of the league actually participated. LOL

It's definitely the worst of the two options but WAY better than backing up the Brinks truck for mediocre.

David Tepper was right when he bought the team. If you want to compete year in and year out, you need a HC, a GM, and a QB. Everything else is a want. Every organization and roster is going to have some weak spots. You just can't have weak spots in those three roles. A mediocre QB can get carried by a great team and a great coach but the burden becomes a helluva lot heavier when that mediocre QB is eating up a huge chunk of your cap space limiting your ability to put that great team around him. You're pretty much forced to have to knock it out of the park in the draft to keep replenishing the talent. You just afford to miss.

You're missing what I'm saying. Every year where we tank our draft position winning a couple of meaningless games we always have quite a few people pounding their chests talking about how this is how you build a winning culture. Doesn't seem to be working. I think you build a winning culture by assembling the right coaching staff and roster pieces to win on the field.

The old Marty Hurney trick that never works. If we pay him like he's elite then he'll be elite!

Really hoping Bryce takes the next step in proving he can be a franchise QB. But if he doesn't, I really hope that the Panthers can accept it and move on.

I've been hearing all about this "winning culture" for years while watching us piss away top shelf draft position with meaningless late season wins when we're already eliminated from the playoffs but being assured this is building "winning culture" just to inevitably suck again next year. With that said, I'll always take a playoff berth. Just make the dance and you have a chance to make some noise. But spare me the "winning culture" bullshit.