Jon Snow

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

Levis was certainly under the radar during the Combine. The most exciting news of him was his bravado. And Levis doesn't even have the best tape, but who knows?

The difference between he and Stroud is not a wide as you think as far as the tape goes. But I think their pro days might have a sway one way or the other. Don't get caught up in the Underwear Olympics hype. The difference has to outweigh the cost to acquire as well. If they view it a push they may wait for someone else to pay top dollar for the first choice before swooping in to get the guy left. 

8 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Yeah.

 

I just wasn't expecting a response. That seemed like it triggered you.

 

I wasn't saying Cam was better. I was just pointing out how Cam got a team to a SB when Luck was considered a generational QB. You would think Luck would have got there more than Cam.

 

No big deal.

 

Wasn't suggesting Luck was better. I'm just saying 1 man cannot do it by themselves.  Ask Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford or any qb for that matter. 

Just now, Kentucky Panther said:

The more I think about it the more I think we have to get to 1. Sounds like we are locked in on Stroud. You can’t risk Houston grabbing him at 2 if that’s your guy. 
 

Come on down, CJ 

My money is on it being Levis right now. It think they try to trade with the Cardinals if possible and let someone else get Young and Stroud.  Just a feeling I have based on nothing but my itching left testicle. 

100 million guaranteed? 

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

You good?

Yes.  You?

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Just looked it up and he's only been there since January of 22. Could make sense to sell the 1 this year and then load up for next year. He doesn't have any ties to Fields really and I think it could be sold to the owner that doing this could be short term pain for long term gain. If Fields turns the corner and becomes a franchise QB, they have their guy. If not, move on, draft the next one. The more I think about it, the more I think it's what I would do if I were in his position. 

All of that's IF the owner is down for it. Poles got the job because the last guy got fired. I doubt he's afforded the opportunity to continue whatever got the last GM fired.

2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Crazy how Cam got a team to the SB and Luck never got there.

 

That's a subject for another day.

Because neither did it on their own. It's a team sport.  But that's a discussion for another day.

5 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Pretty mundane vibes over on the Saints message board lol. 

It would have been about the same here with some sporadic doom and gloom post. Probably a few would get band again, but other than that about the same.

Everyone wants to get paid what they think they are worth. The trouble is your employer may not think you are worth that to have you doing that job. Especially if you are living up to the job expectations your employer set out for you.

Lamar is about to find out what someone is willing to pay him to do the same job. If he doesn't live up to those expectations after that then that employer will question whether the Ravens weren't right all along.

3 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Looks like Carr is going to the Saints

I saw that. Looks like it's Sam Darnold once again.  Hopefully they hit on the rookie whoever it is.

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

Oh I get it. It's also a bad look to the new drafted QB if they move on from Fields after 2 years considering what he's been given to work with. Stroud has already said he doesn't want to go to Chicago because of Fields. Poles is trying to maximize his take to see if Fields turns the corner this offseason. If he does, he's loaded with picks. If he doesn't, he's still loaded with picks and a very good chance to land a top QB in what many are saying is potentially a better class. Win-win IF Poles keeps his job. 

If he keeps his job. It may sound great to us fans but to an owner?  It probably sounds more like hey, if we are wrong and have a losing season it's okay. Look what we have in our pockets to try again. He's thinking about why he is spending big money on these supposed experts when I can get any fan to do that sh!t.

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

If it goes poorly for them again this year with Fields, they're likely sitting in one of the top 2 spots with a plethora of picks to surround their new QB with offensive line talent and a couple new receiving weapons to boot. 

But it will not be a good look to miss out twice in a qb. They may have the picks but who's making the call at that time may not be who decided to pass on one of these guys for Fields.  Just saying. 

6 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

The only 2 QBs that can start right away are Young and Stroud. We are going to have to move up into the top 3 to get either one.

I seriously doubt either will start right away. At least they shouldn't.  But I'm not getting paid to win so who knows?

Just now, top dawg said:

I fuged up anyway. I was looking at the wrong thing.

I do that a lot.

4 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Old contract

See my last reply.

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

65 mil

I was just throwing out a number as an example. 

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If we're talking about risk, THAT would be the biggest risk a team could take in this draft. You have a young guy who has shown promise despite being surrounded by nothing. If you move him to take another QB you damn well better be right because if you draft a bust and Fields goes on to flourish elsewhere you're now officially the biggest jackass in sports.

You could also say that if Fields doesn't develop for Bears after they pass on one of the guys and that goes on to be a stud, well that would be bad. It would be much worse for them if after all that happened the would probably cut or trade Fields and he then goes on to win a SB for his next team. There's a lot of ways this can go wrong for the Bears. That's why they want all those picks.  They need have some options to get out of a serious mistake if the choose poorly. 

The guaranteed money is all that matters.  It could be 20 yr 10 billion dollar contract but if only 50 mil is guaranteed then that's all it's worth. 

3 minutes ago, joemac said:

Good for us.  Removes one of the teams drafting ahead of us from the QB sweepstakes. Let them pay this guy 40 mil a year, we will roll with a top rookie on a rookie deal. 

The Saints are not drafting in the top 10.

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

Saints got Carr

 

Falcons may get Lamar

 

I guess this means we will sell out for our QB in the draft right?

Ot appears the options a getting limited with each passing day. It's looking as if it's trade up or sit at 9 and sign the likes of Darnold or Brissett to hold the position until next season.  Either way the second option is going to happen now.

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Nah I have seen a lot of people say we are not going to win a SB with Carr.

 

My question is what gives you confidence that we can win a SB with Carr?

Not saying we could.  But I would never guarantee we wouldn't.  That's just fan rhetoric to make definitive statements based on emotional reasons only.

3 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

The team that is dumb enough to sign another vet cast off QB. 

Why would another team sign him if it guaranteed the would never win a SB ever in their lifetime?

1 minute ago, Jaxel said:

According to 8 years of Las Vegas Raider data and their willingness to say bye to a QB of his "Caliber".

So according to you as well.

1 minute ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

We are not making the Super Bowl with Carr at QB. So, yes never. Unless this team is able to get over Carrs brain fart moments that seem to rise up at the worst possible moment. 
Carr is Cousins. I don’t want a Cousins on this team. 

So according to you.