Jon Snow

Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

Yep just hoping to see a change in direction.  Not necessarily a large change in location.

I'm just going to see if there's anything that's improved at this point. Maybe we will see some improvements in areas that have plagued this team for years like the run defense and the running game at least. Baby steps given the situation. Other than that I wouldn't hold my breath for significant improvement. 

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

I know. But I tried to have at least .0001% hope that we could do something more than crap all over the field. 

You have focus on the little things. This team will not be one of this teams that can turn it around in one offseason. It's just too dysfunctional and depleted of talent. The talent may be improved soon enough if they get lucky but the dysfunction may take awhile. 

6 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Why do I have the sense of urgency that we need to win our next game or we're already out of playoff contention?

We were already out of playoff contention before the season even started.  We've been out of it for seven or eight years now.

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

If Luton had the whole second half the vibe might be a little more positive around here, and that's on the coach. The whole board was over Plummer by the 2nd quarter

I'm willing to bet he will get more time next week. 

Leota is about all I got on the rise.

All the wr's were bad. Just too many drive killing drops.

1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

We knew that before the game.  That's not useful.  That's why I'm saying its a waste.  All we learned is that Jack Plummer needs to be unemployed.

I guess they needed to see it for themselves to believe it.

Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

What information can be gleaned from playing 3rd and 4th stringers against 1st stringers?

That our depth is complete ass. Most backups need replaced and the jury is still out on whether the starters can beat last years record. 

1 minute ago, Shotgun said:

Unfortunately “they” will be the same people that built this sh*t roster

That is a given. At least it will be a different group of players to entertain the masses. That's all I've got.

90% of the guys that took the field tonight will not make the team. Take a deep breath and save the panic for next week. 

Drops and penalties have killed any drive that showed any promise in this game. The depth is bad, real bad. I'm guessing they will be very active on the waiver wire.

5 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

For the love of God put Luton in

Like that will matter. He's only been here two weeks. Just run the ball and get it over with.

Just now, Panthers Fan 69 said:

No more Plummer please. 

The alternative is a guy that's only been on the team 2 weeks. If you think it's bad now just sit back and give it a minute. 

15 minutes ago, DeSim said:

FOX

NBC out of SC here in Asheville. You must been in the local broadcast area and it will depend on the network. 

1 minute ago, strato said:

Thanks. I am not sure how it is a conspiracy though. 

For discussion’s sake I might argue the conspiracy was on the pro Bryce side, making sure that they got their man no matter the opposition. 

 

Now, the speculation because we have no confirmation, I would add this to consider:

I don’t remember the financial terms (multiple millions no doubt), but after being fired in Indy, landing this job and being given 1st pick in the draft to get your QB would have you smiling ear to ear. 

So why wasn’t he? I think we can infer he felt undermined. Or whatever better suited word might apply. 

 

 

The thing the gets me is that if he were undermined and not given his choice or choices and he was proven right, why fire him? It seems that he would have proven to know what he's doing and deservemore control instead fired. Something just doesn't add up.

2 minutes ago, strato said:

I saw a little of him, and don’t have any real expectations. But were he to shine he would not be a nobody to some people.

Beggars can't be chosers. Plummer has a chance to win a backup spot if he has it in him. If not here then somewhere else. These games matter for guys trying to make a roster. Instead of game 3 in preseason they get game 1. If they do well enough they could earn more time in the next game. That appears to be what's going on.

Just now, Hoenheim said:

So this game is basically like what the 4th pre season game used to be. A ton of starters not playing... I'm curious if they'll get any snaps next week vs the Jets 

I suspect almost all of the starters play next week. 

1 minute ago, chknwing said:

imagine if this sandlot crew balls out and wins

That's the spirit! I want to see these misfits kick some ass.

Just now, chknwing said:

Is this like giving the finger to NFL about preseason games especially since its on NFL Network and you sit 80% of the players that will actually make the team

It's sending a statement. To who or what I'm still trying to figure out.

1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

So far not a good start for Canales who said pre season will matter 

spare us the bottom of the roster competition bs. Our entire roster is bottom roster tier. This team isn’t good and you give everyone a night off?

I will probably pay more attention to how the coaching staff operate than what the players are doing. 

1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

I feel like the two teams usually try to synch these things a little bit competition wise but maybe not

Sometimes, not always. It's usually agreed upon before the game but not always. I can understand what Canales is trying to achieve in this game somewhat. It's to see who shows out or stands out. It's for those hoping to survive first cuts I guess. The backups are not safe at all and have a lot to prove themselves. I suspect this game will decide who's playing with the starters in the next game more than anything. 

5 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Ok.....that's a lot of starters

• RB Raheem Blackshear
• WR Diontae Johnson
• RB Miles Sanders
• DE Jadeveon Clowney
• CB Jaycee Horn
• QB Bryce Young
• CB Troy Hill
• QB Andy Dalton
• WR Xavier Legette
• WR Adam Thielen
• S Jordan Fuller
• S Nick Scott
• RB Jonathon Brooks
• S Xavier Woods
• RB Chuba Hubbard
• OLB Amaré Barno
• S Sam Franklin Jr.
• LB Josey Jewell
• LB Cam Gill
• G Robert Hunt
• LB Shaq Thompson
• C Austin Corbett
• G Nash Jensen
• G Damien Lewis
• T Taylor Moton
• T Ikem Ekwonu
• TE Ian Thomas
• TE Tommy Tremble
• DE LaBryan Ray
• DE A'Shawn Robinson
• DE Derrick Brown
• OLB D.J. Wonnum
• DT Shy Tuttle

That appears to be just about all of them. It appears to be a battle of our backups against their starters.

1 minute ago, waveslayer said:

its no big deal, he wouldnt play more then a 3 and out anyway, no starters will be going for long in this dress rehersal, its more about who stays and who gets cut tonight

There's a lot of truth to this. I'm not sure there's enough starters actually playing tonight to evaluate any of the backups. I'm curious to see the lineups tonight as it might give me a clue as to what he's trying to achieve tonight. Right now I haven't a clue 

3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

That's what I got.  On FOX in Wilmington?

On fox in Asheville as well. We get the fox channel in Greenville SC.

Just now, L-TownCat said:

I’m local.  It’s blacked out on NFLn.

6 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Let me guess, YouTubeTV will not be able to watch?

It's on the nfl network if you get it.