Jon Snow

2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Im curious what the reaction would be if there was another benching. You had people who dont even watch football like that calling out the Panthers like lebron james for mistreating bryce. Lmao 

You will see that and probably much more. Its the way people are now. Its all about getting attention for one reason or another. Amd it works as folks always fall for it.

Just now, strato said:

I don’t really know how that option thing works, and was unsure if it transferred with a trade unless we did it. Obviously your scenario a better option. 
 

We picked up Sam's as soon as we traded for him so I thought it was possible. I remember many of us complaining about the fact that they did that before he even put in a Panthers uniform. If im not mistaken Sam was going into his 4th year of his rookie contract. 

3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Depends because these guys can do substantial damage to their profession careers vs you and me just moving elsewhere in our professions. The pool of NFL employees is pretty small vs other industries. Doesn't make sense to me for young guys like DC even with the cash in hand philosophy being always relevant. 

It gets guys who are dumb and don't know better or guys who know they aren't likely to get many chances IMO. Neither being good options

If Urban Meyer can still get a job you have to be a pretty sh*ty individual to ruin your career in football. 

6 minutes ago, strato said:

I would take too many words to say that. That’s about how I read it.

As to that option year, if they were going to trade him, wouldn’t it be desirable to have him controlled for 2026 and ‘27? 

That would be the only reason I could not go into a canniption fit over it. 
 

I hope Canales is doing his whisperer thing with Hooker because they way people are complaining he won’t get a chance to work with anyone decent. 
 

Wouldn't it be better to trade him after year three and let someone else decide to pick up his option? Hell I would be willing to eat his rookie contract for a 4th round pick. Thats how disgusted I am with the situation. 

1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Maybe he had a turtle head and was afraid if he kicked to hard he'd pinch one off.

Don't you just hate when that happens?

12 minutes ago, Panthera onca said:

Why does our local paper not print something like this? We have to get a NY org to put the truth in writing?

Its nothing we haven't said on here already. AI probably put that article together from quotes on this board over the past couple of weeks alone. 

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

the offense hummed wk 3 against the raiders, the rest of the games meh

That was the only team that Andy had their number. He's almost always beaten the Raiders so I'm sure that had something to do with  the win as well.

Just now, mav1234 said:

the thing is, unless Canales has guarantees on year 3, he could still salvage his HC position if he benches Young and the offense succeeds. He did not draft Young and could plausibly show that he can perform with a different QB.

Nobody organizational is playing for draft position this early no matter who is fired or benched tbh

Plausible deniabilaty isn't going to cut it any longer. He used that card last season. This season he chose to hitch his wagon to a pony when he needed a strong horse. So now that his pony is not going to pull the wagon we should just sit back and ignore the rest of his incompetence? I'm sorry, I  cannot get on board with that.

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

at that point, its done, we are playing for draft position

I've been saying that if you bench Young it's officially over. It really over right now but they just haven't accepted it yet. But it's not going to be but a few more game before they put this lame horse down. The vet is on his way as we speak. 

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

On the list of things I will never understand in a million years

1.How half of the huddle could see this and a professional org could not

2. How the hell does dan morgan get the gm job all things considered

3. Why in the hell did we trade up for a rb with a torn acl

 

theres more but those are my top head scratchers

Don't try to remember or count them. You will only make yourself throw up. 

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

this experiment has to end regardless if he gets back to the last 10 games level from last year.  Hes too mentally fragile to rely on.  I think Tepper knows this now.

He's done here that's for sure.  I don't really care what becomes of him after he's off the team.

Just now, PantherChris said:

Lol. Not quite the same, Ive just limited my Panthers forum time lately I hate Bryce young but its a broken record until they do somthing about it.. 

 

I agree that the Young debate has run its course. That horse has been beaten so badly the the only thing left is a bloody spot where the horse fell dead.

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I mean kenny picket and mac jones got a 5th and 6th.  Somebody will take him for something.  Or just cut him, doesnt matter either way he just cannot be on the roster when the new guy gets here

Both of those guys had better tape on them at the time. Not much better but better than Young. But I've watched enough football to know there's always 1 team that will take a chance. So anything is possible. 

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

It's not for him, it's for the team and fans. Whoever picks him up will either regret it or just move along after the inevitable is confirmed. 

Right. Someone will pick him up if he's cut but I seriously doubt we could trade him for anything other than a 7th if we're lucky. He will be out of the league after 4 years of terrible qb play.

27 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

We've reached the "Hot Take: Bryce isn't as bad as everyone thinks, he's probably more like a game manager!" point where special media is generating clicks from how insane that title sounds

The media is trying to save face just like the team is. Nobody wants to admit they were wrong anymore. So you have to understand that and take as such. It doesn't matter anymore because as John Foxx famously uttered, it is what it is.

1 minute ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Yeah, playing the Bucs the last game of the year might be an accidental win because they will be resting starters for the playoffs.

Looking at our schedule though, I'm not confident we beat the Dolphins or Cowboys at home. After that, I think a home win against the Saints might be our last win since I assume we won't win a road game this year

I've got our only shot at wins as the Jets and the Saints. I'm not confident we even win those. The Dolphins and Cowboys will beat the brakes off this team.

3 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

if a charlotte observer writer is now criticizing bryce and canales, as tepid as the criticism is, that's an ominous sign. 

How could it not be. There's only so much blame for this mess you can place on Young. When things outside of and not remotely related to the qb start to stand out, Charlotte we have a problem. 

4 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

We are going to have a hard time outsucking the Titans and Saints. The good news is that I think we will get a top 5 pick

We have a real shot at the 3rd pick as it stands right now. But realistically we will be picking 8 or 9 as we usually do.

6 minutes ago, HPPantherzfan said:

He should have just came and said what a lot of us on here have already said, your right, they are terrified of throwing the ball down field, why is that?  Just say it!  I have never seen an NFL player, let alone an NFL QB coddled so much, it’s sickening.  But at least he did have the balls to say Bryce can’t elevate a team.  I honestly believe the approach being half baked and contradictory is because they can’t figure out exactly what they have in the QB position, Frank couldn’t figure out what to do with him either.  At some point the excuses has to stop for this guy chalk it up as an expensive loss and move on!

This is it in a nutshell. The only thing they do know is there's no way they should pick up his 5th year option. That is an absolute proven fact. They shouldn't even debate it. Its completely off the table. They better be scouting every qb option available in the coming offseason. 

7 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

60 yard field goals are becoming the norm and we are happy with a guy that barely manages to kick it 55. This is the state the franchise is in.  David Tepper has massacred us. 

How many 60+ yards kicks have there been this season so far? Its not the norm. The distance has increased to 50+ sure. That is becoming the norm to attempt. But complaining about 1 missed 55 yard kick when he has kicked a 57 yarder with room to spare is being overdramatic. 

Just now, t96 said:

Does it matter? Look what Tepper and co did with their last 1st overall pick

No it doesn't matter. But it something new to talk about at least. 

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Or the fans, at least. That said, this was the easy stretch of our schedule, so....

If this the easy stretch then lawd help us. It just so happens we play our fellow bottom feeders the first few games of the season. 

Just now, mav1234 said:

Four weeks into the season and it's draft position again  

You can set your calendar by it. The teams true colors is evident by game 4 or 5. 

Top 10 again. At least we are consistent. 

2 minutes ago, Tbe said:

No, not buy our way out. Hire a HC that can whip these players into shape and give them something to play for. Have you forgotten how the team played under Wilkes?
 

 

Dude. Stop bringing up Wilks like he is the answer. If he were he would be a head coach somewhere right now. Also this team is not that team. Completely different players with different personalities. 

I agree they need someone who will hold them more accountable. But Tepper will have to settle for whoever will take the job. So here we are.