Jon Snow

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

So is BY. We thought Darnold and Baker were dogsh*t but a change seems to have made a difference. I'd offer straight across if they'd take it. Nothing to lose in reality. Maybe get lucky and he actually finds his potential or more than likely he train wrecks into the top 2 picks with Miami. Doesnt really matter either way, but I forgot what it looks like to see a ball sail 40 yards with the flick of the wrist from a Carolina QB. I dream of watching TMac catch a 60 yard in the air TD. 

You can find that in the draft. Being able to throw a football 40 yards doesn't make someone a good qb. If that's all you want Young can do that. Just because he hasn't doesn't mean he can't. I've seen him do it in college and even his pro day.  For some reason he doesn't and im not sure it's all him. But even doing so doesn't make him a good nfl qb.

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

I don't disagree but I'd rather we at least see Hooker for a couple/few games at some point to see if maybe he's a backup in the long term.

I'm sure you will see him around the end of the season unless he's not showing anything in practice. He may not make it that long if he's not improving. 

1 minute ago, Joe Bear said:

Which is why Canales needs to be told he's canned unless he starts running the fuging ball on 2nd and 2 or 2nd and 1. Pisses me off so much to see Hubbard get 8-9 yards, then dial up a deep throw where nobody's open, Young forces it and gets sacked or picked.

Canales has his own issues with his with preparation. Both his and his players. He got embarrassed against the Jags who made him look like an amateur. 

Just now, Waldo said:

I never said Young. They will have to trade for someone to play that isn't Young. That or play Young again like last year. 

They don't need to do anything. There's 3 qb's on the roster and all are capable of getting us a high draft pick. There's no saving this season because the die has been cast and what will be is already in motion. Buckle up buttercup and enjoy the ride.

1 minute ago, Joe Bear said:

Besides, if he has a good game in a week or two 1/4 of the Huddle will be back on the bandwagon anyway.

Some will, some will never be no matter what. Its the nature of the world today. 

Just now, Waldo said:

I was talking about someone else to play this year. If Dalton goes in early then he isn't making it to the trade deadline.

They will not trade Young this season. As bad as he's playing they still need him until they feel comfortable that Hooker can backup Andy. So no matter how much some fans want him off the team now it's not happening until the season is over.

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

Im waiting a couple more weeks to see if Jones looks consistently good in Indy and making a very low end offer for AR because he will be on the outs. Is he going to suck? More than likely. But can he actually make the throws physically to open up the field? Yes. We've got suck right now and Dalton isn't going to change that. Who knows what could happen. But a full season of what we saw Sunday will cost DC the locker room. 

AR is dogsh*t. Do not waste a pick on some else's trash. Let's draft our own garbage from now on.

Just now, TLGPanthersFan said:

I have a feeling Bryce is gonna play well because it is the Cardinals and people will once again say that he is back to his end of season self. 

Thats going to happen even if he plays bad. Stop worrying about what others say and worry about what the team does. Only they control what happens. 

Just now, Waldo said:

Then they will have to trade. No one around can carry half a seaon let alone more.

Whatever Young's fate here will be will take place after this season. 

2 minutes ago, Candler Cat said:

So, we're in the crapper for another 2-3 years minimum 

And that's only if things start improving in the choices this franchise makes

Yeesh

We are in the craper and will be until this team has more talent and better coaching. They have a long way to go.

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

We have a bad vet that doesn't have good availability. If they sit him then we will see him again just like last year. Rinse and repeat 

I'm not sure they will start BY again if he's benched. They weren't going to the last time. It may be Hooker time.

8 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

I am hoping we are bad enough to get a rookie. 

We already have a bad vet on the team. They will let Young crash and burn one more game before he's benched again and will ride Andy for as long as they can until the season is over. If Andy goes down then I'm not sure what they do. 

14 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Should be but Im still waiting for the other team to mail one in and have the Panthers squeak by for a win and a victory lap of meh. 

Only the Panthers mail it in.

Whatever happens will be done after the season no matter what. 

22 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Another winnable game against a beatable team. It's hard for me to belive the Cards can put a decent game together against the Panthers so who knows. Run the ball and win. Let's see which team is smarter in Toilet Bowl 2.0 2025

I'm sure Arizona is saying the same thing. I'm feeling another double digit loss coming. 

What rock have you been hiding under? We've discussed the defense on here since the game. Hell we've talked about it since Evero got here.

1 hour ago, Icege said:

I've watched everybody that says TLaw outplay Bryce also completely ignore Nijman giving up immediate pressures and mistakes by other players on the offense.

I have no attachment to Bryce. My attachment is to facts, and the facts are that he dealt with more than TLaw did. As a fellow Clemson fan, I've got a much softer spot in my heart for TLaw and the NCG he won his freshman year than I do Bryce and his rough two seasons to start his career in Carolina. 

Have you gone back and watched the all-22 with the intent to figure out what was happening rather than sticking with your initial assessment? Give it a shot. It's much more rewarding than making up conspiracies to continue an agenda.

The all-22 is a great help to see who else screwed on a play. It try to see everyone during a play but it's hard to keep up with watching everything live. I saw a lot of bad but I'm sure I missed a lot as well. 

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

lol I know the multiple turnover day and 70 yards passing mid 4th quarter looked bad while getting blown out by a weak Jags team……but once those late garbage numbers dropped into the spreadsheet it wasn’t that bad 

Thats why I don't look at numbers. He looked like dog water most of the game. Another one in the bad column. He's going in the wrong direction. Just like the odds say he would.

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Yeah, expect those opportunities to be gone next week.   Those little wheels he ran were money Sunday and we got nothing out of it.    That would be the first thing if I am AZ I make sure I got a handle on.

I had this game penciled in as a loss already. This could be the last game of the Young experiment if he looks like he did last game. Its just a matter of time before it will implode. 

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Well I 100% agree you deep dive for any player and create almost any narrative/argument. 

Thats why at the end of the day, your take when the clock strikes zero is largely the most solid IMO.   Was TMac good? Yes.  Was XL bad? Yes.  

The I need to watch the tape first mentality and check out the analytics sites to form an opinion…..gets real squirrely. 
 

 

It's too easy to get caught up in numbers. Trust your eyes.

13 minutes ago, Martin said:

Let’s remember that all of these QBs will have an additional 10 games or so played by the end of the season. So a lot of room for further development and growth. There is a lot of potential in this group imo.

...also time for names to be added to the list and names removed. 

36 minutes ago, CRA said:

3rd straight openers of horrific football featuring Bryce.  

and if the games weren't dated....I bet someone unfamiliar with Bryce/us  couldn't figure out which one was his rookie season just off the 3 openers. 

I never needed stats to tell me how a player is doing. I watch every snap and if they have more bad plays than good plays that is all I need to see. Young has more bad than he has good, by a wide margin. 

He was going to need to overcome an overwhelming size disadvantage coming into the league. He had to lead a dysfunctional, talentless team and turn it around. He had no chance and somehow the FO overlooked all of that.

The fact that the odds of it being remotely successful were 1000:1 is all the reason you need.

Tepper made his fortune taking gambles like this but that is in finance, you don't do that in football. 

5 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Yikes that first Renfrow throw. 

It was under thrown and off target. He was wide open. No excuse for that.

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

I think the tepper part means he is trolling

It's got to be.