Jon Snow

USC QB's are not good.  Just like OSU QB's.  I would stay far away from either programs QBs myself. 

1 hour ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Serious Q: What's the difference between Sam Darnold and David Carr?

One wears gloves. 

Benching Sam is about all they can do to change things up.  But it will not change the fate of this season. Blood will need to be sacrificed at the end of the season. 

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You gotta try something. You can't trot Darnold out there again after today. The team will completely quit on him.

I agree, but this is a hole he cannot dig out of by just changing to one of his other scrubs.  The damage is done.  

IMO he ought to be forced to watch Sam crap the bed in every game this season. He needs to be reminded of what a horrible decision it was to go into the season with no other viable option at qb.  If it wasn't for the fact that I would be forced to endure it along with him that would be my wish.

He doesn't care because he gets paid either way. 

10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

IMO, NOT pulling him is throwing in the towel. We are running the most bland, vanilla offense imaginable just to try to avoid the QB turning the ball over and yet Darnold is still turning it over in droves.

Who are you going to put out there?  PJ is not an upgrade over running the Wildcat let alone at QB.  Maybe one of the practice squad scrubs can keep it under 3 turnovers but I doubt it.

3 hours ago, Zod said:

 

He's not the only one.

You pull him now you will be throwing in the towel for the season.  Rhule will have to admit this experiment of going all in on Sam with no backup option has failed miserably.  

His gamble failed badly and it cost the team the season.  That's not a good look.

...pass.

I'm going to view every game with the assumption that they are destined to lose the game. That way if they pull out a victory it would be an upset for the other team.

It puts less stress on me and it makes watching a disaster so much more enjoyable.  I get to laugh either way.

9 minutes ago, CRA said:

You clearly don’t see what is at the heart of my PJ talk. 

and you clearly close your eyes when I also bluntly type out that I want PJ to start…so that Rhule will be forced to move on from him and can no longer get by with wasting the roster spot with his Temple bud. 

Sam Darnold is literally horrible.  He is a PJ tier QB.  Read that carefully.   And tell me what it says about PJ lol

but anyway, back to facts.  #1 Panther QB of all time ranked by win %? PJ Walker. 
 

 

 

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

3 years to fix Darnold

Fix? I think they are just trying to get by with him at this point.  The only way he's here next season is if he's keeping the seat warm for a rookie to get up to speed.  

2 minutes ago, BlackPanther21_ said:

Thankfully, we will be running the ball 60 times if he does start.

They better be or this game will get out of hand fast.  I don't care if the score is 3-0 as long as we win.

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

So, a less athletic Sam Darnold? Awesome.

He's a crash test dummy.  Gotta save the others for the game. They will be the crash test dummies for the game.  I'm curious as to what happens if they lose PJ.

22 minutes ago, Rags said:

I hope not but I know one thing for sure

either way this message board will be unhappy. 

This board is always unhappy about something.  I can guarantee that if the team were to win a SB a contingent of this board would complain about it somehow. 

3 minutes ago, 1usctrojan said:

So….your franchise didn’t fail him, and allow him to be knocked around and ruined enough?  Are you really a fan of his, or is he only worth your entertainment?

I’m not a Cam fan at all, but I would hate to see him murdered behind this oline. Again.

I would almost like to see that happen just so it would finally shut down the constant threads about Cam.  

I can see it now, Cam out there throwing worm burners when the WRs aren't dropping the passes he can make.  Watching him getting crushed behind this oline or finished off trying to use him as a RB seems to be all that makes the fans happy. Winning is secondary. 

Insanity to wish that on player that is claimed to be revered so much.

Donte will be on another team next season me thinks.

I just hope the defense can keep the game from getting out of hand.  I know it is unfair to ask considering the amount of terrible situations the offense regularly puts them in.

50 minutes ago, CRA said:

the most likely answer, is a NFL LB just called it like he saw it though.  

and I don't know if it is overblown or not.  That's not one of my primary Sam issues.  I know Sam has lots of issues with his game....and when you add them all up togther, the collective sum is clearly problematic and has been. 

I just think more often than not it's the two things being true aspect applying.  Sam Darnold simply can't see the field.  Collectively, the NFL world has made this point loud and clear.  I assume his present teammates know this problem.  I assume his coaches do.   It causes him to do really stupid things with the ball and he often will put people in bad spots because of that.  Does that impact his WRs? If they are human? I assume it would to some degree.  How much?  Who knows.  Most NFL players at some point are going to have to deal with that. 

All of that can be true. 

and at the same time, Robby can be playing like trash this season....and DJ Moore has never had Nuk Hopkins like dependable hands.   

and the OL can be weak and cause a host of problem for others.  From QB to playcaller.  

and Sam can still make horrible decisions and not be a good QB right now...that are not be caused by the OL or Brady. 

Joe Brady can be young and lacking. 

Joe Brady can also be screwed from actully have the basic resources a young and inexperiecned OC probably needs.  He probably at least needs vet QB, or a good QB, or at least a decent OL.  Something. 

Lot of things can be true.   

 

Everything you just said is exactly what we are witnessing.  One would have to be blind not to see it.

33 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Nonsense. PJ will be running the option with us. 

66 runs, 14 passes(2 INT's, 2 completions) on Sunday. 

2 hours ago, CBDellinger said:

it was a read option run play, not an run pass option play

You are debating with an alt account.   That fool has been banned so many times I've lost count.

45 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

So ... he's available?

In a couple of years, maybe.